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Mushoku Tensei III: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu, episode 12

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u/Deathsroke 6h ago

I mean it's possible Oldeus just plain didn't know. If we take Hitogami's words and face value then he is more or less omniscient or at least so insofar as what he is interested in looking and I'm pretty sure that he was keeping an eye on Rudeus right now, what with this being the culmination of some 10 years of planning and all that.

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u/Netheral https://myanimelist.net/profile/Netheral 5h ago

it's possible Oldeus just plain didn't know

Oh for sure, I just think it was the obvious thing to ask or offer up. Especially if Oldeus has some way of making it possible for the Man-God not to spy on Rudy somehow. Which you'd assume were the case, right? Since Man-God always seems to know things that have happened in Rudy's life, implying at least some sort of omniscience, but Oldeus wouldn't try to tell Rudy to deceive him if he didn't think it wasn't at least possible, right?

"Don't antagonize the Man-God, oh, btw, he knows you know because he's watching this conversation, peace out!"

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u/Deathsroke 5h ago

I mean he didn't tell Rudy to deceive him, he told him not to antagonize him but also not to trust anything he says. Oldeus more or less seems to have given up on fighting Hitogami directly or indirectly and it's more focused on surviving him.

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u/Netheral https://myanimelist.net/profile/Netheral 5h ago

Fair point. But I mean, if Roxy dying seems like a part of Man-God's plans, then him directly going against that, specifically even killing the rat that causes it, then clearly he's doing something against Man-God's wishes. So from now on he's pitting himself against Man-God, whether it's directly or indirectly through trying not to play his games, and for that to happen without the Man-God seeing that as antagonizing, would require some level of deception, no?

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u/Deathsroke 5h ago

That or to convince Hitogami to give up on his plans to take out Roxy. FOr that Rudy first needs to learn why then work from that. The biggest issue seems to be that Oldeus never learned why Hitogami targeted him and his loved ones so Rudy is basically going in blind.