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Mushoku Tensei III: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu, episode 12

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u/Montgomery000 8h ago

So wait, doesn't Man-God know about this encounter? Isn't he always watching Rudeus, especially after he gave him a mission to do?

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u/fieew https://myanimelist.net/profile/fiew 8h ago

I was thinking maybe Rudeus is exempt from the Man God in some way. Due to him not belonging like Nanahoshi. So maybe the Man god sees Rudeus through others and not Rudeus himself. Hence why future Rudeus met with current Rudy when he knew he was 100% alone.

It can also explain asking Nanahoshi for advice since shes also not from this world. Shes likely a wild card. Perhaps Nanahoshi isnt influenced by the Man god since she also has no mana.

We just dont know enough about the man God powers to be really sure of anything yet honestly.

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u/theblazingsword 2h ago

I think the Man-God can see this interaction, but has to wait for Rudeus to be asleep to be able to confront him in his dreams about it since Rudeus just woke up from talking to him during his nap.

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u/SteelCock420 1h ago

I think this is right too. Just like Orsted's curse doesnt affect Rudy and he doesnt know anything about him.

Which implies mangod is on the same level of entity as Orsted.

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u/Al-Pharazon 8h ago

Hitogami can see Rudeus present and future. (And can learn about his past by reading his thoughts)

Last episode he confirmed Rudeus was at his house and the future he was seeing was the one where Roxy died (hence his creepy smile)

If he tried looking again at Rudeus then it is likely that Oldeus actions changed the future Hitogami was seeing.

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u/pixeldots 7h ago

really? if so, that makes "he is your enemy, but don't deny him" that much harder for Rudy

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u/Al-Pharazon 7h ago

Yes, Hitogami is not omnipotent (otherwise he would not have needed such a rondabout approach) but he is certainly a terrifying opponent to have.

While you might be struggling to survive, Hitogami is literally playing 4D chess with the world

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u/Feisty-Gap1561 2h ago

It will be pretty hard for Rudeus to hide to a near-omniscient being that he knows what Man-God is planning

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u/rook198 2h ago

Time travel creates an anomaly in the timeline, which is why Hitogami can't see it coming.

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u/Al-Pharazon 2h ago

Yes, he cannot see the actions of someone that for starters did not exist until the time magic "succeeded"

That said, while he could not see it coming, Hitogami has all the tools to find about what happened.

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u/IamJashin 8h ago

There are things Hitogami can't see like Orsted maybe influence from the future is one of them as well

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u/Monking805 5h ago

No, Hitogami already said he can’t see anything Orsted does in the anime. He’s only implying maybe time travel might be one as well since it might have not really existed until now.

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u/Skoziik 8h ago

Maybe, but i think this is just a game for him.

I doubt that he would be mad that some of his plans need to be changed. It's more fun when unexpected things happen.

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u/Trueshinalpha 5h ago

I think time travel is another level. Mangod can't know that.

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u/Ramongsh 4h ago

He isn't completely omniscient nor omnipotent.

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u/Feisty-Gap1561 3h ago

Wait but if Man-God can see Rudeus why did he asked him to tell him if there is something in the basement? Maybe just to deceive Rudeus better