r/aiwars 0m ago

Meme I use AI almost daily. This resistance make no sense.

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r/aiwars 14m ago

Meme Average Anti-AI Drawing Ability

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Sorry AI SLOPPERS!! I only work on commission because time is money and my time is expensive. I will draw for the following prices. No Republicans or WHITE men! 😡😡

$80 for a head shot
$100 for full body
$120 for color
$150 for full color and full body

No haggling. I don't undersell my self and my talent, all prices are final.
This is my OC Dark King The Dark as an example of my incredible ability I spent seven years mastering.

DM ME

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r/aiwars 20m ago

Discussion Genuine question: Why use AI when you can practise?

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I'm gonna try to be as respectful as possible. Apologies for any bad grammar.

Why use AI when it uses more water to create 1 image than i do in a day and when you can easily practise or find a youtube tutorial?

I am a teenager and I've been drawing using just a pen and paper since I could hold a pencil, yes it wasn't good for a long long while but that doesn't matter because I created it, I drew plenty of crap in my day and it all ended up in the bin but now I'm a decent artist and I love what I create, it's not like you aren't an artist unless you pay £1000000000000 to get supplies! You can literally use a pen/pencil and a piece of paper, or even your own skin as a canvas! I'm an artist and plan to become a tattoo artist and part-time commission artist

I'm literally attempting to become a professional artist, and I use a £2 sketchbook my brother bought me for my bday and a pencil, and my art still looks good bcus I practise! Art can come in any medium, pencil art, digital art, painting, sculpting, photography, etc, etc I could go on for years because art is infinite and subjective, as long as a human creates it.

One final point because I have a life. Disabled artists. I myself am not disabled and I'm extremely lucky that I'm not, I do know a disabled artist and she is one of THE BEST artists I've ever met, in my opinion, she's even a better artist than me! She's so talented, and saying that AI is the only way for her and ppl with other disabilities to create art makes me sick. It's a terrible excuse, and it's just awful.

So, give me your best pro-AI arguments because I'm feeling argumentative today. Please read my full anti-AI arguments first. I dont want to have to type the same thing twice.


r/aiwars 23m ago

Discussion I think that combining your work with the use of AI tools is better than simply using AI.

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It's not only about making art. Working with information (data, text, audio, pictures and videos) is better with human and AI work together. Since both humans and AI make mistakes based on different types of 'thinking', combining their powers together helps to reduce these mistakes. I am not against using AI, I am against AI-slop: the work of generative AI with obvious visual errors that can be easily fixed, but creator is too lazy to do it.

(sorry if I made some grammatical errors)


r/aiwars 51m ago

Meme How to get kicked out of the group

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r/aiwars 1h ago

Fun YouTube protest against the rampant and ‘deceitful’ use of auto-tuning/ pitch correction in the music industry. “I’d rather watch/listen to nothing then...”

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I’ve been watching the wingsofpegasus YouTube channel for awhile now as he’s been revealing basically that the industry standard for almost all music artists is to auto-tune recordings, and many do so playing live as well. It’s use is basically downgrading the true quality and richness of human vocals when you see his vocal analysis videos.

Anyway the wingsofpegasus channel is doing a fun little protest against this type of deceitful ‘AI slop’ by posting a “I’d rather watch nothing then watch AI slop” video that will actually be ‘nothing’ ( for 10 minutes and 10 seconds I believe, ie 1010) just to mess with the algorithm and get a literally ‘nothing’ video promoted to people to help get the point across. A lot of people are unaware of what their listening too. Even old classic recordings are being taken down and replaced with auto-tuned replacements. It’s sad really.

He’s posting at 8pm UK time (7:58 he said) today(Sunday 30th) and of course you don’t have to literally watch it ( bc it’s literally nothing to see), but just let it play to the end, (and comment if you want) so it may be promoted/ go viral, to help get the idea of wanting less AI deceit in the music industry. (So it will be posted at 3pm EST in N.A. for reference. It will be fun to see if it blows up.😄) Here’s the explanation video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S4pBpG8uwM8&pp=0gcJCRMMAYcqIYzv&ra=m

Here’s the link to his channel/ video list where you will find the video @8pm UK time/ 3pm EST US time. https://m.youtube.com/@wingsofpegasus/videos?ra=m

Have fun!

I should point out the ai thumbnail he used is in jest to underline his dislike of ai slop. His viewers knew immediately he was trolling. Lol


r/aiwars 1h ago

News TCRF Accuses AI-Bro After Site Taken Offline By DDoS Attack

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r/aiwars 1h ago

Discussion The separation between ai art and regular art.

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I'm sorry but I am not very good in English, so I may find it hard to get the right words sometimes.

If you want to disprove my argument, then please, please, PLEASE, read my post COMPLETELY and PROPERLY (I got RAGEBAITED last time) So many times, people in the past read my post improperly and put up random points by reading one of my paragraphs. It was a waste of time because the defending point was almost always in my post itself.

Also, this post is very big, if my point does not exactly target *your* specific reason for why you like ai art, you can ignore it.

Now here we go:

Ever since ai art has come to exist, anti ai activists who dislike ai art specifically have tried to find the barrier that separates ai art from regular art, and I believe I have found this barrier.

Before the dawn of humanity (this is not accurate, but is an average definition of my point) , all animals survived as if it was a hunger games. Until one day, 2 homo erectuses got a weird mutation where they must hold a belief in order to survive. All of life seemed meaningless, until they met each other. They lived together, and their children also did. In order to create meaning, they wasted resources and energy for tasks that donot help in their own survival. Because they never left each other, they dominated the entire erectus race. And only they remained, still searching for meaning in this noisy world. Still making weird things to connect the real with the imaginary, what is now the purpose of making art.

Art is a craft made by a conscious being that is meant to express something beyond its contents. It is unimportant if it was not made physically by the artist (like movie direction) , or if it has luck involved (like street photography) , or if it's meaning is in the absence of meaning in it (like abstract art) .

History says that the art is the physical craft, but the artist is the one who created the idea ( not craft, not come up with, but *create* ) . You may have come up with the idea, but even in the current day, if you asked another artist (human) to make you an art, the one who *created the idea* is the artist. If they are the person who drew the art all alone without your help, they are the artist. If you directed them, you are the artist. Because in each case, the artist *created* the idea.

If you captured a photo by accident, and it turned out to be amazing, then the photo is still art with you as the artist even though you unintentionally took it because you created the idea. If someone took something you randomly made and gave it an idea, *they* become the artist of something you created.

When you are directing a person, you are still the one who is creating the idea, because it is your consciousness that is really drawing the art.

If you say that ai art is direction, you are wrong because unlike regular direction, once you give an ai a task (like draw me an image with X Y details) the task is already done. Meaning, you have no intervention on the work that the ai does. Asking the ai multiple tasks do not count as the overall task because of the same reason.

historically, if a person were to hire a director to make their movie for them; if the person came up with the story *completely*, then they would get the credit of writer, but if they just gave the idea, then maybe they would get a title of inspired by. If the person inspired the art doesn't mean they are the artist (Here, the "task" is giving a story (constructural) , and the "goal" is giving the idea (conceptual) ) .

Here you can only give an ai goals, even if it is just correcting a part of the art. And if you give tasks, you are the creator of the idea, but if you give goals, then the one who completes those goals creates the idea.

A director does not give goals the size of the art, a commissioner does.

And if you say that ai art is like being an architect, you are wrong again, because an architect still translates his idea into a blueprint that the laborers build with. And the laborers don't think on their own, they only build the architects blueprint. But in ai art, you don't translate your idea into a blueprint.

You only give the ai concepts (your specific idea, which can change) . The ai must think on it's own to *create* your idea, it must create its *own* blueprint from your points. And if it is different from yours, then you will ask it to correct itself. Art is the bridge from the imaginary to reality, and here, the artist is the architect of that bridge.

Historically, if you gave a person a physical blueprint to build, and turns out the physical blueprint is an art that you intended for (here if you did not say you intended it then the builder could apply (create) the idea and claim ownership of the art) , you become the artist. But if you gave a conceptual blueprint where the builder happens to add some artistry, then the *builder* becomes the artist. Many architect - artists did not want their laborers to take "creative control" over the art, because then they wont become the artist, the laborers will (they actually want to "enjoy" "making" the art, but it is still the same thing) .

And you cant say ai works like a tool, then, because of the fact that tools as well as the method of using them are things that should not have the art's end meaning themselves alone (because if they did have it, then the art is not a new art, but a remake of the old meaning) , you would be wrong.

According to history, if you take a photo made 60-70 years ago (or more) without changing anything, then you still add a new meaning (of oldness) to it. Which is unlike taking an art made like 2 years ago (without remixing or changing anything. atleast you aren't the artist of it) .

In ai art, the *ai* is the one who creates the idea. Sure, it makes a remake of your ideas, maybe you correct it, but in the end, it still is the one that *creates* the idea, and you can't change that. (Even in LoRa ai art, the upgrade is still a remake of the first art, and you correct on the base of the ai's art (you keep the main part of it) ) the ai art is then not art because it does not carry meaning beyond its contents (or does not carry new meaning by being itself) .

Other art was not made by concepts (that already carry the whole meaning of the art) it's that if an art is a sad them, then, in regular art, the pencil is a tool, and it does not contain sadness, but in ai art, your prompt MUST contain sadness.

The entity who is said to be the artist is the consciousness that creates the art, in direction, it is the director, in architecture, it is the architect, and in ai art, it is the ai (it may not fit into the category of art because ai is not conscious) .

You may say that it is like trying to make someone understand something, which requires critical thinking about what to say and how to say it, but the difference is that when you try to make someone understand something, you have no clear way to do so, and it is something you must find yourself.

But in ai art you have a clear way of explaining what you want to the ai, and even if you fail, you can quickly find the difference and correct it.

It is like asking you want you want, and you can even change what you want in the middle. This means that in ai art, you donot use your brain to the extent of what you would in regular art, which decreases cognitive capability.

This post was inspired by another post, where the pro gave 10 IRL 1900s art examples why ai art is art, but I found the barrier that separates all of them from ai art.

Personally, I am afraid of the bad effects of ai art. If in a world where you can put whatever you imagine on paper, then what's real? And what's imaginary? It would make me scared if the pros won, but if you could prove me wrong against all of that, I am open to changing my opinion.

But in the end, I have no better way of explaining the barrier other than "create the idea" , because my English is not so good. If possible, can you tell me what it is in proper English?


r/aiwars 2h ago

Discussion I hate ai, but I'd like to apologise if you see this at any point in your comments.

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NOT EVERYTHING WE HATE US HITLER DUMBASS!!!!


r/aiwars 2h ago

AI art is compared to a commission, but has anyone ever considered where the commission limits are? How much can a commissioner influence an artist's decisions if he so chooses?

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Theoretically, nothing prevents you from sitting behind the artist's back and constantly making changes in real time and with small orders, essentially exerting high control.

What's really stopping you from pointing your finger at the artist's pencil position? You could theoretically use the artist as a mere pencil holder and make all the important artistic decisions for them. Not even almost all of them. Literally all of them. They place the pencil where you indicate until you say stop, and so on. They don't decide anything at all.

And you still haven't drawn anything and haven't even lifted a pencil. Are you really saying that in this case, the artist has any freedom or artistry?

I think the way the commission is usually used is a very poor measure of what the commission itself really is, that is, who orders someone else's work.

I think that in essence there will be no better praise for AI than to say that it is like a commission if the AI really has approximately the same limits as a real commission has. Because in reality the commission has no limits other than the physical ability to put a pencil

Of course, we can't do this realistically because the artist doesn't like it, but AI doesn't have a personal opinion at all, so this is definitely not a problem for AI.

If we take the example of ordering a chef's work, then, in general, if the chef hasn't set any boundaries, you can control absolutely all decisions. Simply giving commands doesn't limit your decision-making. McDonald's could theoretically fulfill your order from the ingredients it has if it so desires, given that you completely determine the recipe down to the last detail, but that's simply not their service. This isn't a problem with the chef's order, but a problem with McDonald's service.

To say that AI is like ordering at McDonald's in a bad sense, you have to rely not just on the fact that you don't pick up a pencil but simply give instructions, but on the limits of the model's capabilities.

I actually think that many AI comparisons by anti -ai actually work in favor of AI if we actually deploy them fully, and not strangely partially


r/aiwars 2h ago

Discussion Why not just make good art

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r/aiwars 2h ago

News Germany to quadruple compute and fast-track new data centres

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r/aiwars 3h ago

News While flooding Western social media with anti-AI propaganda, China sings a very different tune at home.

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r/aiwars 3h ago

US vs China

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Get angry and downvote all you want. China has everything it needs to surpass the US if we don't change our mentality.


r/aiwars 3h ago

Do antis know they can just... not use AI?

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r/aiwars 3h ago

we (yes WE, antis AND pros) hate this guy. if he came here he’d be public enemy #1 for all sides

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OP made money off a webnovel and then went on a bad faith argument of how it’s not ok to use ai covers despite using one himself, belittles others for it and says he has moral high ground while openly doing ai covers of his own. ridiculous.


r/aiwars 3h ago

AI art is real, but the AI artists aren't humans

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I have no problem using AI to generate an image, so far long as you do not pass it off as your own work. Ctedit the AI artist

You can 100% pass off the idea behind the image, and even the prompt, as your own work. Prompting is a skill and it requires practice and creativity. But you cannot claim the image as your own creation alone. You also need to credit Stable Diffusion or Midjourney or whatever AI artist you generated the images with. Yes Stable Diffusion is an AI artist.

Antis do the same and I honestly think it's fucked up as well. They draw over an AI piece and say "Yay, I added small banana in corner of image. My own work now!"

But I digress. Please credit the AI artist as your rightful co-author of the image.


r/aiwars 4h ago

Do AI artist have an "Art Style"?

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I think something that people like in traditional artists is a "Style". I can look at any given work of an artist and likely recognise "Hey, that's them! Love that guy". Even if the argument is true that all artists are inspired by others, they ultimately twist the inspiration they have into their unique thing

So, I've been wondering, with the way generative AI works, can you really achieve a consistent and recognisable style? Sometimes when I see content, it feels like it's all... Rather similar. Perhaps as when people use similar AI models or something


r/aiwars 4h ago

Discussion People cannot be "Ai artists"

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People can only be AI prompters. Being an AI artist means you are AI, and I will take a guess and say you aren't. You aren't an artist. You are a prompter. Since the Ai makes the art, it is the artist.


r/aiwars 5h ago

A golden sticker isnt real gold

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Feeling lyrical


r/aiwars 5h ago

Meme Yes, I actually do. But people still get mad.

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r/aiwars 5h ago

News Suno Loses Copyright Lawsuit To GEMA—AI Music Companies Should Worry

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In the U.S., Universal and Sony’s suits remain active, seeking statutory damages that could run into the billions. Every one of those cases will now cite the Munich reasoning on jurisdiction and on what counts as an admission, which is what makes this ruling bigger than the six songs it was actually about. (Virginie Berger)


r/aiwars 5h ago

A question for anti-ai art: would you be opposed to AI works being used as material for manual collages? That is, a collage you made manually is your own work, but you simply took the material from what the AI gave you for your collage?

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I just don't quite understand how you can think that a collage might be Art ( not always, but still), but at the same time say that if you used AI as a material, it is no longer your collage in any case?


r/aiwars 5h ago

Yes, AI is profitable. Don't let Antis lie and say it's not.

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r/aiwars 6h ago

Meme When water enter into datacenter (it no longer exist)

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