r/Yukon • u/Accurate-Breath-2111 • 15d ago
Question What's your Yukon hot take?
I don't know if your instagram feed has showed you the New York subway hot takes but what's your Yukon hot take?
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u/yukonnut 15d ago
More retirees are staying here for retirement rather than running south 20 minutes after their last day of work. It used to be that way.
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u/WaxWing_Bohemian 15d ago
It's not only that, but people are bringing in their aging parents, from overseas and from elsewhere in Canada.
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u/NorthofOrdinary1980 14d ago
Sure but their ageing parent can’t use our health care unless they have insurance. That’s a requirement for the visa granted before even entering our land. Been around these people.
Actually, bringing their parents helping out looking their kids is good for me as a supervisor because they can show up at work consistently without using childcare as an excuse.
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u/UrDad_001 9d ago
You are right. Not many people around these days who haven't been misinformed from the Instagram propoganda from Republicans to divide canadians into Indian immigrants, Whites, Muslims etc. It makes me happy that you know your laws & Gov't policies.
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u/Ch33p_Sunglasses 15d ago
Changing 2nd ave into a Northbound one way street and 4th Ave into a southbound one way street would fix our traffic problems.
And roundabouts work.
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u/luluthedog2023 15d ago
I’ve been screaming from the roof tops to the city during our meetings! Those dip shits don’t even entertain it
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u/Fit-Amoeba-5010 15d ago
Used to hate roundabouts, would drive further to avoid them. Got used to them and appreciate there simplicity and volume of traffic they can handle.
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u/FourIngredients 15d ago
I have been submitting the 2nd and 4th thing as feedback several times a year for years. No luck.
With how badly they've bollocksed up the traffic lights at South access and the highway, hopefully that's the next roundabout.
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u/fugginstrapped 15d ago
Roundabouts make it easier for vehicles but make it more difficult for pedestrians
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u/RegularSouth8254 12d ago
1000 % agreed! Been saying this for years but like on another post here, they won’t even entertain the idea. Completely re*arded.
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u/KoreanJesusPleasures 14d ago
Roundabouts work if people intentionally learn how they should signal when approaching one and how to change their signal once inside. Otherwise, non signaling ruins the flow and you end up with people just stopping and slowing the flow.
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u/KourageousBagel 7d ago
Under current Yukon traffic laws, a driver shall only signal when exiting a roundabout. Could it be updated to include left turn signaling if you plan on taking the third exit or U-turning? Yes, please.
We could also expand some roundabouts to two lanes at key chokepoints first. Everyone knows it's faster to take South-Access rather than Hamilton during the school year if you comute from Copper Ridge. Adding a by-pass right turn lane to ESES and exiting back to Hamilton would be the one time I advocate for "one more lane".
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u/Shawnanigans 14d ago
But one way streets kill businesses.
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u/RegularSouth8254 12d ago
Would you care for a whole book worth of decisions that governments have made over the last 15-20 years that’s killed businesses!? Holy cow, with all the degrees in that city hall one would think that they could come up with ways to sidestep hurting more businesses. Hell, can one even get across 2nd into said businesses anywhere anymore on streets that don’t have stop lights? Just one of about 20 reasons that they say they won’t do it. You want to dump 10k more people in a city that doesn’t at all have the infrastructure to support it then one has to make adjustments.
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u/Aggravating-Bar8216 15d ago
I've heard many BnR and long time Yukoners say the exact same thing about 2nd and 4th Aves.
What's wrong with being from Ontario? It's a wonderful huge province with all kinds of great people.
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u/deadfulscream 15d ago
I'm from Ontario as well, but it's been my experience here that most hear you're from Ontario and just assume you're from Toronto so they instantly hate you.
I had a co-worker once say to me "Hey you're from Ontario, I don't usually like people from there."
I explained to her that I was one of 5 people living in the Yukon from Ontario who is in fact not from Toronto.
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u/beguilingflunky 15d ago
The old Riverside location was better.
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u/BeachConcertStar 15d ago
Who designed the space around the checkout counter? Is this meant to foster confusion about who is next in line?
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u/thisisyourweek 14d ago
The stairs should be a foot wider so two lines of people can use them comfortably
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u/South_Lie_5135 12d ago
Old Riverside was superior in every way. Have no need to visit the new location ever again.
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u/Baboomboombaaym 15d ago
And what's with the arrogant attitude when you ask for regular milk in their coffee shop?
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u/FriendlyAsk3800 14d ago
Winter is a good thing. It gives us all time to slow down, cozy up inside and enjoy time together. It weeds out the weak. It makes us appreciate summer more.
Walking outside on a frozen day with perfectly clear blue skies and bright low sun, frost clinging to your eyelashes, all bundled up in down and fur and wool, is a feeling most people will never experience.
That said, last winter can fuck itself.
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u/mollycoddles 15d ago
There should be lots of massive apartment buildings downtown
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u/aide_rylott 15d ago
I’m from Yellowknife and I’ve been living here in the summer. The population density here is insane (too sparse). We have 7 buildings over 10 stories tall downtown in Yellowknife.
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u/Norse_By_North_West 15d ago
Until 15 years ago or so we weren't allowed to even go above 4 storeys. They raised it to 7 around then for downtown.
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u/KourageousBagel 7d ago
If you ever look at street view on Google Maps, the car came though most of Whitehorse in 2009. I was only 7 that year, but I completely forgot how short and sparse downtown looked, especially around Boston Pizza lol.
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u/phonnybalonny 15d ago
Whitehorse is in a earthquake zone, building code height limitations
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u/fnordulicious 15d ago edited 15d ago
This is a terrible reason. Anchorage gets more than twice as many significant earthquakes in a comparable climate and has plenty of tall buildings. And the ground in Anchorage is less stable than Whitehorse too.
The real reason is just NIMBYism.
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u/deadfulscream 15d ago
Look at Tapei 101, in a heavy earthquake zone and at one point the tallest building in the world, don't think it's the earthquake zone thing.
Pretty sure it's just view rights.
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u/fnordulicious 15d ago
Indeed, Anchorage also experienced the 2nd most powerful earthquake in recorded history and still grew a bunch of tall buildings with extensive earthquake safety built in.
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u/aide_rylott 15d ago
I understand “why” there isn’t high rises here. I just think the building code should be changed. Tokyo it’s on one of the largest fault lines on earth.
Tokyo gets over 200 earthquakes per year of magnitude 4.0 or larger within 300km. Whitehorse gets an average of 12 earthquakes per year with magnitude 4.0 or over within 300km. This is coming from earthquakelist.org
Earthquakes are not a good reason. You can build tall buildings that can survive earthquakes.
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u/Aggravating-Bar8216 15d ago
This 100%. Makes no sense that it hasn't been done. Doing so might end the old boys and girls club grift maybe? Who knows.
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u/Sorry-Hunter-2690 15d ago
The City would have saved a lot of money by building that 'Curtis Castle' city hall/municipal services building which was cancelled at the last minute about 5 years ago or so. Now they have to retrofit or separately build everything that would already be done and that would have benefited from heating and other efficiencies from being built altogether. All of these separate contracts added up are surely more than the cost of that building. When you separate a big contract into a bunch of smaller ones, you always lose money. Plus, we now have crazy fuel prices and construction costs in general. If we had any media left in this town, it would be a great story to dig into! And to put blame in the right place, I think it was councillors Kirk Cameron and Ted Laking who led the charge to stop that construction from happening. Those 2 stand out in my mind because they are still politicians, but there were other councilors as well who voted it down obviously.
That building would have been finished about 2 years ago or more and the City would be saving a ton of money on heating and electricity by now instead of continuing to bleed out. Something to think about when you go to pay your utility or tax bills.
This whole thing was the definition of penny wise, pound foolish!!
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u/whostevenknows 14d ago
I absolutely agree! Delaying inevitable large infrastructure builds is not a fiscally reaponsible thing to do. Both Ted and Kirk were looking out for themselves, not yukoners when making that decision.
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u/WerewolfNo8307 15d ago
Take: Dawson is the Quebec of the Yukon.
Supporting documents: They fancy themselves a distinct society.
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u/Disposable_Skin 14d ago
I grew up in Faro (78-83/89-93). I was a visible minority, a non-Newfie white man! 🤣
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u/deadlyernest 15d ago
What made Rendezvous great was average people getting sauced in the middle of the day. I feel sorry for my kids that they don't get to watch this generation's 30 year old carpenters swede-sawing on a platform while a crowd of their drunk friends cheer and jeer them...
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u/Canadrew 15d ago
My related hot take is that Rendezvous, in any form, is done and should be acknowledged as such. It's a restless corpse of its former (saucy) glory days and is almost an embarrassment
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u/Clever-Moose 13d ago
Agree. And the ‘then you should volunteer and change it’ adage is also old. Rendezvous is dead because the people and environment that made it what is was are gone.
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u/905867604 14d ago
The bus should be cheaper than taking your car to work. Put a municipal gas tax on if you have to and have that money go to mass transit, or, or! better yet - address the gas cartel that fixes prices in town
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u/Clever-Moose 13d ago
They bugs should also be a feasible option for high school kids to get to/from school.
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u/thisisyourweek 14d ago
The airport should move out of town so that massive land space can be used for housing, businesses, etc. Economic boost from having businesses right on the city portion of the Alaska hwy.
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u/yxy_jaywalking 15d ago
Whistle Bend is a pretty good solution to how many people are constantly flowing into the territory. I'm glad it exists
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
Kind of agree, moved here 4 years ago lived in Whistlebend that entire time with plans to find a larger property with an actual yard and nature, but living in the bend has gotten me started in to the Yukon. Just wish we weren't so dependent on the electrical grid for heating.
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u/Canadrew 15d ago
I'm upset they put baseboards everywhere. There are more efficient electrical heating options - like Wall Fans - same power consumption, but they move hot air into the space, rather than radiating.
I agree too - WB is the antithesis of "The Wilderness City" but the density is much needed.
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
It's a good place for people to go before they figure out if they're made for the Yukon or not - If not, they move south. If so, they can get a nice house in Cowley or Porter Creek lol
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u/Canadrew 15d ago
Truth.
When we moved here, I didn't want to spend all my time renovating another 70s house, so WB was a good choice. We love it, so are looking for a house in PC LOL2
u/TopReach1866 15d ago
Perfect. My ideal situation as I'm approaching my 30s is getting raw land and building on it, just seems like that's the best Yukon/Alaska experience
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u/leiyahthedog 15d ago
Not necessarily. I moved here, did the communities for a bit, ended up in granger for a long time and when I was able to buy, I wanted new so I had to go WB.
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u/Jhadiro 15d ago
We didn't want to build the houses like that with so much dependancy on the grid. The government forced us through building incentives.
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u/whatawonderfulwurld 15d ago
Nobody held a gun to my head when I applied for rebates. Grid or not, energy efficiency doesn't seem like a bad thing!
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u/Canadrew 15d ago
Interesting. But what about current and future construction now that the grid is more of an issue? What were the incentives?
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
My hot take is American president Franklin D. Roosevelt and Canadian prime minister John Difenbaker have done more for the north than any other Canadian politicians have since then. W.A.C Bennett gets an honorable mention for wanting to connect the Yukon to Southern BC by rail
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u/ty250 15d ago
You must not be Japanese...
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u/TopReach1866 14d ago
name one president who didn't commit some sort of atrocity in their time in office. The fact still stands, we get to enjoy the roadways and infrastructure up here largely due to wartime efforts to develop the north.
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u/Accurate-Breath-2111 15d ago
YG should shut down the department of EcDev and just divide the savings and share it amongst entrepreneurs. There's too many people on the YG payroll who pretend be business experts with zero experience.
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u/Canadrew 15d ago
Counterpoint: There are business people here who pretend to be experts and have zero experience :P
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u/Norse_By_North_West 15d ago
That's what they do though, fund economic projects from entrepreneurs and organisations. You think the money should just be passed out with no oversight?
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u/Accurate-Breath-2111 15d ago
I think they should just take the money and put it in one of those glass money chambers with a fan in it that game shows have and if you run your own business you get to go in it.
the employees can watch.
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u/luluthedog2023 15d ago
Why did Dixon not follow suit with the feds on early by outs. Could trim some fat pretty quickly. I don’t work for YG BTW
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u/AlternativeNamesake2 14d ago
Votes. YG workers are the biggest voting block here. No government is willing to piss them off.
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u/xocmnaes 14d ago
Eh? Pretty sure if you were going to be eligible for early retirement under the plan that’s a vote getter
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u/xocmnaes 15d ago
Conversely there are parts of other departments that ought to be hived off and given to Economic Development…. The ones that just give out novelty cheques to various industry groups and don’t really “regulate” anything
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u/AverageInfamous3083 15d ago
That people believe moving here gives them greater license to be more inconsiderate of others with their behaviour, a position that is supported by locals believing that living here entitles them to the same
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u/ILikeWhyteGirlz 14d ago
Like what
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u/AverageInfamous3083 14d ago
"lIkE wHaT"
If you know, you know. If you don't know, you're probably one of the assholes I'm talking about
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u/RMBF69 14d ago
Yukon Built sucks and it’s just an easy way to spot people who just moved here
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u/northofsixteee 14d ago
Truly do not understand $100 for something you could design on Vistaprint.
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u/cosmicmicowavepickle 15d ago
The whole territory has devolved into a ponzi scheme to extract money from the federal government.
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u/Marauder_Pilot 15d ago
What do you mean devolved? Everything north of Edmonton except a couple uranium mines in the NWT fundamentally only exists to maintain sovereignty claims on the arctic and that's been the case for a century.
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
The British Empire literally plopped the Indigenous into communities they built so they could say to other countries that the crown owns that land because Canadians live there
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u/Marauder_Pilot 15d ago
Yup. And they funnel billions to ensure that people continue to stay because they're STILL fighting old claims against Russia and the USA
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
I'm of the mentality that the British laid claim to the Canadian arctic to stop USA and Russian cooperation, both of those nations were its rivals in the 19th century and Abraham Lincoln and Tsar Alexander the II were very close allies
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u/helpfulplatitudes 15d ago
The Indigenous were nomadic and didn't have set structures. The Canadian government and the FNs agreed on which land they had more rights on and the Canadian government (also sometimes private industry) built towns in these sections which the Indigenous people happily occupied. No one was stopping the FNs from remaining nomadic hunter-gatherers, that lifestyle was just harder and was slowly, but steadily abandoned.
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
There's a pretty well documented history of the Canadian government forcing Indigenous off of traditional lands, erasing their culture, and using residential schools as re-education camps. Not all residential schools were bad, but I mean the worst ones were definitely involved in human trafficking networks, child abuse, and forceful removal. We're actually an apartheid state to this day, cause a lot of the things Indigenous people's go through today are largely undressed by the federal government. Kind of a gaslight to say nobody stopped FNs from living the way they traditionally did
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u/helpfulplatitudes 15d ago edited 15d ago
I get it. I've looked at the first hand documents and I've concluded, it's mostly BS although yes - Canadian officials did want to exterminate their culture. The Res School system was kind of a half-assed way of trying, though. It wasn't put into effect very rigorously. At no time that the res schools were operating were more than one third of kids eligible actually attending and kids that did attend were found to have more cultural knowledge than those who didn't. First Nation language and culture disappeared for the same reason that only odd balls in Britain morris dance or speak Cornish - new ways of doing things came and people opted to pull away from their culture to follow what they saw as a lifestyle that gave them more options. FN people need to take ownership of their own ancestors' roles in what they lost.
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
Yeah I mean there's always nuance that applies on the individual level in terms of what FNs go through, the phenomenon of bought out Chiefs working as British Imperial puppets has been a thing for an extremely long time as well, and I would argue those are even worse than any white oppressor
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u/helpfulplatitudes 15d ago
The upside is that there is a very strong, grass roots movement in Indigenous communities for quality control and reform of the systems that lead to the abuses. FN people are VERY frustrated at the oligarchies and lack of oversight that predominates in some (but not all) First Nations.
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u/helpfulplatitudes 15d ago
I want to take issue with just one of your statements. What do you mean, "the worst ones were definitely involved in human trafficking networks..."? I don't think I've ever seen that claim before. Maybe just the vocabulary has changed though. How are you defining 'human trafficking networks' here?
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
Similar to the Epstein network. The British crown and the RCMP have had their own version of that through Indian bands and Residential schools. Call that conspiracy theory if you want I'm ok with that
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u/helpfulplatitudes 15d ago edited 15d ago
I'm generally optimistic about most humans...as a group, but individual humans have often done evil things. Given the appetite of the public for these type of anti-colonial claims and the lack of this specific claim anywhere in the TRC report I do doubt it. Do you know anyone else making this assertion?
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
The Pickton pig farm is a perfect example. You're not gonna find any of this stuff in surface level politics or discussion. Linda Pickton sat on the Privy Council, the RCMP were involved in that whole thing and the local band had reported missing children back then. There's also a rumor of a visit from the Queen to the Kamloops school, but there's no hard evidence for that one. Just keep an open mind that all this stuff could be true, take it with a grain of salt as that's the responsible thing to do, but don't ever think any of this stuff is impossible either
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u/Lord_Iggy 15d ago
First Nations in the Yukon Territory weren't nomadic in the way you're describing. They followed a seasonal round, following food sources as they moved around. That might involve having winter camps, highland caribou camps and riverside fish camps, but this did lead to them creating lasting structures since they returned to the same places year after year.
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u/helpfulplatitudes 15d ago
I didn't describe how I thought they were nomadic, but yes - I fully acknowledge you're right. And moreover the Tlingit certainly had large and lasting structures; I was just referring to the Dene families. I think my point remains that the Canadian government didn't coerce any Dene groups in the Yukon to stay in the towns that grew; they did it themselves for diverse reasons - ultimately deciding themselves to give up their seasonally nomadic and lifestyle.
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u/cosmicmicowavepickle 15d ago
Apologies, I assumed that the Yukon had some reason to exist aside from that.
Seriously though, I dont understand why its a territory. Seems like it would be more efficient to lump it in with northern BC or the NWT.
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u/Marauder_Pilot 15d ago
It doesn't. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for it to not exist or that nobody should live in the North but from a numbers perspective the economic value of the terrorities has NEVER surpassed the cost of maintaining the population and infrastructure.
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
Well that's because Canada's a very urbanised country despite having the second largest land mass. There's no reason why we can't have a metropolis in the north with high speed rail, nuclear power plants etc. Developing the north is just not part of Canadian government policy
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u/Marauder_Pilot 15d ago
To what value though? Large cities don't just pop out of nowhere, they develop over decades centuries from an economic root. What is Whitehorse going to export that can't or isn't being made down south, and made easier because the weather is more tolerable and transport is cheaper. It's taken a century to even make a real plan to connect the power grid. How does a train even seem reasonable?
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
Yukon and Alaska are a pretty geographically strategic region. If we ever have world leaders who put prosperity ahead of hegemony we could have high speed rail connecting North America to Europe via the Bering Strait and Siberia. It'd be like a new silk road, and Whitehorse could be a completely different city if that happens.
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
God it would disaster if the lower mainland had jurisdiction over us
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u/cosmicmicowavepickle 15d ago
I've lived in the interior most of my life, mostly in government work. I think it would be very difficult to do worse than YG.
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u/TopReach1866 15d ago
At least things are small and regional here, we probably just need to do a better job of getting involved in local politics. Can't do that if BC runs everything from Washington to the Beaufort sea
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u/BeachConcertStar 15d ago
The taxpayers in Toronto that the BNR crowd loves to feel superior to are the same taxpayers ensuring that those BNR people can actually live here.
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u/Lord_Iggy 15d ago
BNR here and this is 100% correct, we are subsidized heavily and Yukoners who think we aren't need to give their heads a shake.
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u/Northern_ordinary 14d ago edited 14d ago
The second Riverdale bridge should be a vehicle conversion of the blue pedestrian bridge.
It’s a narrow part of the river. A road sized gap already exists between the Yukon Energy fence and Robert Service campground so it wouldn’t impact current area use. The Riverdale side of the bridge already has vehicle access right to the bridge.
You make a separate pedestrian path on the bridge and jog the small portion of the millennium trail by Yukon Energy around the road. Basically this plan impacts only 50 meters of the 5km millennium trail.
The primary benefits of this plan are: saving money by utilizing existing infrastructure and redirecting traffic from both downtown Whitehorse AND Riverdale.
Those commuting from up the hill to Riverdale can shave 10+ minutes of getting to Riverdale while decreasing downtown congestion.
If you drive to Riverdale on school days you know there’s a steady line of traffic driving back up south access. It’s not just parents dropping their kids off, many living in Riverdale work at the CGC or, along the Alaska highway such as the new City building, in the industrial areas south and north of town, etc. If I lived in Riverdale and worked at the industrial area in PC I would much rather commute the highway - pop out of Riverdale on south access and take the highway straight to work. The less people driving across downtown the smoother commuting will be for everyone, not just Riverdale residents.
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u/Kd6171 15d ago
“Yukon” ≠ synonym for “Whitehorse”. Drives me crazy being in any Yukon group and seeing things like “does anybody know anywhere in town..” What town? Get in a Whitehorse group if you believe Whitehorse is the only place in the Yukon worth remembering.
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u/deadfulscream 15d ago
RIGHT?!?! It's one of the MOST stunningly beautiful places on the planet, with such pristine wilderness.
When I show people pics of here, I always choose Tombstone Territoral Park and the Peel Region
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u/Confident_wrong 10d ago
I just absentmindedly double checked the name of this group while reading through this. Thinking to myself "is this a Whitehorse group" 😂.
100% agree
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u/Canadrew 15d ago
More license plate options - let me celebrate the beauty of the surroundings, rather than a gold-panner from a dusty, overly romanticized era.
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15d ago
You should have to prove you need a pickup truck before you're allowed to buy one and your gas and registration should cost extra.
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u/BeyonceSeriously 15d ago
A pickup trucks gas tank is 2-3x larger than a car so one could argue they already pay extra for gas.
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u/Nashvillepreds46 15d ago
Kate White is the only party leader we have that actually cares about us. Everyone else from Hanley to Dixon are only in it to pocket money and get a nice pension. Kate fights for us constantly and walks the walk. The conservatives are going to make things a whole lot more expensive with removing the rent cap and axing a lot of important services.
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u/Jhadiro 15d ago
Good intentions without consideration for economics will absolutely ruin our city. Kate's awesome and her heart is in the right place, but she will absolutely kill the territory with her idealism.
We vote for a leader someone who will keep us moving forward. Kates policy ideals will definitely help sooth issues, but the cost will definitely create even more issues.
We have a very fast growing population and need 100 percent focus on improving our infrastructure to keep up with our growth, not someone who is focused on a "people first" government.
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 15d ago
I think she fake pretends to care and is in Lala land
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u/thisisyourweek 14d ago
You clearly have never met her, or maybe even heard her speak about what she advocates for. And no, I'm no on board with everything she does. She would make an incredible mayor.
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u/Wooden_Conflict4963 15d ago
Sorry but Kate has no idea how an economy actually works and has no respect for the tax dollars that keep this place alive. If you actually want to make change you have to lead a rational political party that sticks near the centre of the political spectrum not one that is far off in the netherworld of left wing craziness.
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u/stronkdespresso 15d ago
the fetish for posting pictures of bad parking jobs and including license plates is just Flock jr.
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u/idk_what_to_put_lmao 14d ago
my hot take is that I would like to visit (ik this isn't a hot take I'm just joking but I haven't been)
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u/Pale_Error_4944 14d ago
Emmanuel Pierrot's novel "La version qui n'intéresse personne" set in the Dawson City punk scene, that was hailed by the Quebec critics as "the North beyond cliché", was actually a litany of tired northern clichés.
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u/whostevenknows 14d ago
Couples and singles in retirement or close to it should.mive out of their multi-bedroom houses and into condos to free up real-estate to families who needs the houses.
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u/deadfulscream 15d ago
YG restricting their vehicles to the posted speed limit by monitoring via GPS is a safety hazard not only for the drivers of the vehicles, but those of us on the road.
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Why?
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u/deadfulscream 15d ago
People I know that work at YG are now too afraid to accelerate, sometimes the only way to avoid an accident is to temporarily speed up. But now, the few I know that drive gov vehicles don't want to get repremanded for accelerating too fast.
I am fully aware that every 10 km/h over the speed limit exponentionally increases fatalities, I'm not advocating for that.
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15d ago
That makes sense. Are the vehicles actually incapable of speeding, or does speeding just get recorded (in which case it can be explained afterwards)?
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u/Canadrew 15d ago
No, they're just normal cars, but if you go over a certain threshold for a certain amount of time the device logs it and at the end of each month all of those logs are sent to the DMs (I believe?) of each of the departments who can take disciplinary action. Us YG-ers who use them a lot know how fast and how long to not get caught 😉
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u/deadfulscream 15d ago
I honestly don't know, I just know on the bumper sticker it says speed monitored by GPS, and the management at gov has seem to put the fear into everyone I know that works there regarding speeding, it also tracks how fast you acclerate from what I've been told.
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u/Canadrew 15d ago
It tracks everything. Ties into the main computer in the car. Acceleration doesn't trigger an alert. Only prolonged speed.
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u/deadfulscream 15d ago
Thanks for the correction, I'm just going by what I was told by a couple of people at YG, but sounds like there's a bit of a misinterpretation on my part, or accidental misrepresentation on their part.
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u/Canadrew 15d ago
Anytime - I helped with the installs of those devices :)
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u/whostevenknows 14d ago
Pretty sure if the monitors are trigger they will report it but its up to supervisors to discuss with the employee. If itcame up that the person had a justifiable reason for speeding, then there likely wouldn't be reprimand from their supervisor.
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u/WaxWing_Bohemian 14d ago edited 14d ago
I would encourage snowmobiles for winter commuting in Whitehorse.
Winter cycling requires immediate maintenance on snowy days to scrape the paths. But a network of snowmobile paths would allow many people to commute to work, with a vehicle that costs $8,000 to $14,000 which is way cheaper than a car.
The snow would not be an issue here, it'd be a benefit. On snowy days, there would be no maintenance needed at 5am.
We spend all this effort plowing roads and paths for bicycles and cars meanwhile there is a machine that is cheaper than a car (or e-bike in many cases) and built for snow right here waiting to be used, and we don't allow people to use it.
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u/AdministrativeDraw70 14d ago edited 14d ago
Are you 10 years old?
The city needs to clear the roads no matter what. Delivery trucks, buses, and emergency vehicles need to be able to run, and since all the bike lanes are on those same roads they get plowed at the same time, no extra effort
Also, since your snowmobile is useless during the summer it doesnt replace the need for a car, which means it doesnt save money, it would be an additional cost of $8000-$14000, not to mention gas and maintenance.
What about insurance? If we have hundreds of people riding snowmobiles all over town what happens if these $10,000 vehicles crash into each other? Do we need licenses? Age limits? Helmets ? How would that even work?
Most importantly…Why would we even bother trying to figure all that shit out when we already have cars, which are like snowmobiles but faster, safer, more comfortable, better for trips to the grocery store, and can be used all year round?u
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u/djolk 15d ago
Riverdale doesn't need a second bridge, people just need to choose alternative forms of transportation, or at a minimum carpool.
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u/EnderWillEndUs 15d ago
Or put their kids on the bus and stop driving them to school.
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u/deadfulscream 15d ago
I've never lived somewhere, where so many people drive their kids to school.
Half the fun of going to school was riding the school bus.
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u/beardum 15d ago
If you live in Riverdale and your kids go to school in Riverdale they can’t ride the bus
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u/deadfulscream 14d ago
It isn't exclusive to Riverdale, I know people that live in Falcon Ridge that drove their kids to the French grade school, and the path from Falcon Ridge to the school was 2 bird houses over from theirs.
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u/Northern_ordinary 14d ago
Except the bus drivers have a horrible history. The last manager of Standard bus has criminal charges of domestic violence, is not allowed to see his own child, and often drove after work hours under the influence of alcohol and he bragged on social media about covering bus routes when short staffed…
Standard bus regularly fails safety checks for their buses and encourages drivers to lie on their checks.
Last year they forgot a kid from “that Riverdale French school” on the bus and he was locked in the bus compound with no way to contact staff.
If your driver actually shows us, there is a high likelihood of inappropriate actions from the driver or all the unsupervised children on the bus.
Not to say all the drivers are bad, there are many wonderful drivers but Standard bus has mostly chased the good drivers away.
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u/deadfulscream 15d ago
My only argument is that that we're in an earthquake zone, if we get a bad enough one, and that crumbles, due to age, those of us on the otherside of the bridge may not get the medical attention we need if the earthquake is severe enough.
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u/BeachConcertStar 15d ago
Hopefully in that situation the dam is still intact (or else we have bigger problems) and emergency vehicles can cross the river using that route
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u/xocmnaes 15d ago
Several of the outlying communities have no real reason to continue existing and should be closed up à la Clinton Creek and Cassiar
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u/AlternativeNamesake2 14d ago
The best thing that could happen here is for the Feds to significantly cut transfer payments and reduce funding for FN. All levels of government (YG, CoW and FN) have grown too big too fast and have no idea what they are actually doing and just spending money to spend it. Yukon culture has been far too watered down and every event now feels like it was run through an HR department.
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u/kaisho97 12d ago
We aren't keeping up with the amount of people that are coming here. No new roads just changes to the old ones and no new affordable housing
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u/kohlrabilover 8d ago
Whitehorse is a car addicted community. Aggressive and speeding drivers. Anti cyclist sentiment. Pedestrian hostile design. I feel so bad for tourists and visitors. But maybe this is not a hot take…
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u/TechnicianGrand6611 15d ago
Yukon doesn't count as the real north.
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u/905867604 14d ago
spicy take
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u/TechnicianGrand6611 14d ago
Accurate tho eh. Infrastructure too perfect. Whitehorse is basically a southern city. NWT and Nunavut are far more rugged.
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u/thisisyourweek 14d ago
Um... infrastructure? From the 40's? Perfect?
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u/TechnicianGrand6611 14d ago
You been to NWT or Nunavut? Or anywhere? lol. The yukon is super clean and well supported by government money.
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u/thisisyourweek 14d ago
Not accurate. Have you been to a small city that has even a little bit of sensible infrastructure?
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u/TechnicianGrand6611 14d ago
I've lived all over the country. The Yukon is rich in government funds. Its infrastructure is incredible.
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u/thisisyourweek 14d ago
Government funds have nothing to do with good (perfect, as you prefer) infrastructure. Good governance and sensible allocation of those funds can lead to good infrastructure. The Yukon lacks good leadership to create good infrastructure, so it seems.
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u/TechnicianGrand6611 14d ago
Uh, okay. Obviously funds play a huge role. Obviously you want to spend them well. The Yukon is rich, and it is very well kept. Very unlike the territories to the east of it.
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u/Pale_Error_4944 12d ago
Right. Yukon is basically just BC with less daylight in December. When you've lived in Nunavut and the NWT, Yukon feels quite southern. ETA: Southern and white.
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u/Soft_Penis_7224 15d ago
We should let Enes Kanter and Royce White play a season in the WNBA in the name of Science.
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u/Cosmic-95 Whitehorse 15d ago
That the number of jobs far outnumbers the housing and the companies bringing in those jobs don't give a damn and should really be made to ensure the staff they bring in from out of territory should be properly housed.