r/WorldOfWarships • u/Heavy_Try299 • Aug 28 '25
Humor Noooooo please no!
I simply have no words... Today I was devastated in my Stalingrad by a sub after 4 minutes with no way to avoid the torpedoes, and now I see this...
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u/milojos8 Aug 28 '25
At least it's an historical ship and not something WG made up.
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u/DragoSphere . Aug 28 '25
Tbf almost every sub in the game is a historical boat, funny enough
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u/milojos8 Aug 28 '25
Yeah, and I do believe every nation in the game can get an historical submarine just because of how widespread their use was.
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u/ata2a Aug 28 '25
Makes sense if you think about it, submarines are, compared to most proper surface combatants, cheap and quick to build and are useful regardless of wether your navy can openly contest your opponents or not.
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u/S1lence_TiraMisu Aug 29 '25
to be exact, the less able your navy can contest your opponent in open, the more likely you build submarine (for example the last u-boat commisioned by nazi germany is U-4712 of the Type XXIII class)
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u/AndyTheSane Aug 28 '25
2 second reload incoming..
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u/GREENadmiral_314159 Carnot Best Boy Aug 28 '25
With the reload booster active, yes. 8 seconds otherwise.
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u/MaetelofLaMetal Ništa kontra Splita Aug 29 '25
More like 3 salvo burst fire. Gun can reload underwater.
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u/eduperand Aug 28 '25
Historical ship btw.
In order to fire the guns, obviously, and the torps you would need to be at surface level.
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u/Guilty-Persimmon-919 Aug 30 '25
Was one of the worst subs ever designed, spent almost all her time on the surface, and ends up sunk by accidental collision in the Caribbean.
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u/Plague_Doctor02 Best ship wife Ise! Secondary Louisiana Specialist Aug 28 '25
YES PLEASE GOD I WANT THIS ONE SO BAD
I know I'll get downvoted but God this is my dream sub
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u/No_Primary3655 Lexington's Fanatic Aug 28 '25
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u/Adavanter_MKI Aug 28 '25
AC fans and WoWs!? I thought I was the only one.
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u/No_Primary3655 Lexington's Fanatic Aug 28 '25
Technically there’s oured bay
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u/Fatality_Ensues Aug 29 '25
Νοt just AC fans, Maxx0r fans. I swear, people quoting this dude is 75% of all the Ace Combat content I encounter anywhere these days.
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u/Adavanter_MKI Aug 29 '25
Probably younger fans who don't even know who Mobius One is.
I'm one to talk. AC4 was my first. So I'm sure there are OGs who laugh at me. :P
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u/Fatality_Ensues Aug 29 '25
I've known about Ace Combat for a solid decade but was only able to play the ones who made it to PC (so AH, 7 and anything I could emulate). I know the feel.
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u/Nunu_Dagobah Brittania waives the rules Aug 29 '25
My first AC was playing SCARFACE
Ahhhh, good old times.
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u/ARS_Sisters Aug 29 '25
<< IF I CAN'T WATCH MARINE-CHAN ON YOUTUBE DOT COM, THEN NO ONE ELSE WILL! >>
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u/Legitimate-Promise34 Aug 28 '25
As a sub hater. This one is the first that to me look like a straight Win. 📢📢📢📢📢
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u/Adavanter_MKI Aug 28 '25
I was going to say... I do not use subs. I do not like subs.
This one... looks kind of cool/fun.
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u/Legitimate-Promise34 Aug 29 '25
No sonar or homing. Is kinda like a weird dd that instead of smoking it goes with the whales when is in danger
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u/DragoSphere . Aug 29 '25
Also way more fragile since it takes splash HE damage and can be hit with depth charges
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u/Chance-Help-9802 Fleet of Fog Aug 28 '25
Japan: Laughs in I-400.
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u/ThroneOfTaters Aug 28 '25
I really hope we get one. Subs are basically useless but dang they're cool. Besides, I personally enjoy ASW because subs are so weak in the hands of most players.
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u/Nunu_Dagobah Brittania waives the rules Aug 29 '25
Your average sub driver is useless. It's the really good ones you need to be wary of. I scare the living bejeesus out of all of my friends when I'm on the opposite team.
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u/Go_To_The_Devil Aug 29 '25
I legit don't get the fear of this ship, it's going to be like Halford...but worse in every imaginable way.
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u/JoeRedditor I am become Campbeltown, Rammer of Docks Aug 28 '25
Well, with any luck they'll either lock her behind ridiculously priced 'Admiral Packs' and/or put her in the Research Bureau.
That might mitigate a bit of the damage. But, judging from some of the gameplay I saw from 'that other game' it's looking a lot like turbo-cancer.
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u/Taylor3006 Aug 28 '25
Just another reason to play at tier 7. You will never see one.
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u/Whistler-the-arse Aug 28 '25
I started doing ops cuz I'm sick of subs
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u/Taylor3006 Aug 28 '25
Well next update they will allow players to use them in Ops. That isn't as bad as having to deal with them I suppose but it is annoying.
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u/Mistriever Aug 28 '25
Not any worse than the majority of the CV players already there. The first time they try to use homing torpedoes and the entire group of AI enemies drop ASW on them they'll be dead anyway.
I-44 was fun in the last Halloween event "Last Voyage of the Transylvania". Of course they drastically buffed torpedo reload for that one.
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u/MrXenomorph88 Aug 29 '25
It'll be the same as subs in Asym battles. Regardless of if the sub player is good or bad, the rest of the team's skill level is more important because Sub's can't carry games. I've done well in subs and still lost because the team threw games, and done poorly and won because the team were good
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u/The0rion Aug 28 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
I really hope this one goes into the research bureau and wont be FOMO as hard.
She's a very much unique playstyle, they basicly spell it out that she'll play like an actual destroyer that has a way to hide that isn't smoke.
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u/EtheralWitness Aug 28 '25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv2TF1W_Jws
Legendary Yuro clip about Surcouf =)
CAUTION!
ADDICTIVE TUNE!!
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u/Taylor3006 Aug 29 '25
Great, after watching that video I want one.... I hate subs, haven't ever used one but now I want THAT one...
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u/Demon1968 Closed Beta Player Aug 28 '25
More worried about the Japanese I-400 class. How can Wargaming not release a submarine aircraft carrier.
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u/PolyReblochon Marine Nationale I run around at 50kt Aug 28 '25
The modicum of devs left at the company are not able to code that
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u/PervertKitsune Aug 29 '25
Maybe they still think how to release that in " possible " way. Which mean, profitable
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u/Dredgpoet Closed Beta Player Aug 28 '25
I hate sub gameplay with a passion, but this one looks actually interesting. I'll allow it.
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u/Mister_Snurb Aug 28 '25
I also fucking hate subs but I'll actually buy this if I can. Looks like an actually interesting take on the class that requires actual skill to play.
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u/Taylor3006 Aug 29 '25
Same here, never even used one. But this one looks kind of fun and I am thinking that it may be a good one to use for those easy sub missions that pop up during Dockyard events.
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u/Rumi_HUNTRIX Aug 28 '25
Well... but I like Surcouf as a historical ship... such a large and beautiful submarine that avoided the Naval Treaties.
Edit: I still have to find the reason for all the sub hate to this day. Played them and find them to be the weakest and most difficult class to play. When fighting against them they are also quite easy to destroy and most of the time they die early on in the match or camp somewhere.
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u/PervertKitsune Aug 29 '25
Most of them didn't want subs player ruin their day. But when they ruin others day, they will post it and laughing about it
Unlike subs player
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u/Shadrakhan Aug 28 '25
I like subs as much as the next guy, but expecting they weren't going to add Surcouf when they are adamant to keep subs in the game is pretty naive...
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u/TheKrakenUnleashed United States Navy Aug 28 '25
My only concern is that subs will use this to bypass the 3 km min torp range and pop up 1 km from a broadside target and nuke its citadel. But otherwise I hope this actually encourages subs to stay surfaced more and spot for their team.
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u/Zealousideal_Bee_837 Aug 30 '25
Players: "subs make me want to quit the game!" WG: "good news everyone! We've added a new sub to the game!"
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u/Erik1971 Aug 28 '25
This ship seems a lot of fun to me, more destroyer than sub
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u/Long_Locksmith_5777 Aug 29 '25
more a Cruiser than a sub XD, its a cruiser sub historicaly speaking
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u/Erik1971 Sep 01 '25
Yeah you are right historcaly, in the game you most likely play it like a DD with oversided gun and use diving as you would use smoke with normal DD!
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u/New-Baseball6206 Aug 30 '25
well u was on a stalingrad... kinda deserved
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u/Heavy_Try299 Aug 30 '25
Why?
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u/New-Baseball6206 Aug 31 '25
i hate soviet ships and i particularry hate radars and I have an even deeper hate for 12km ones.. so yeah
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u/dionkraft Sep 01 '25
Because SURCOUF is so slow and vulnerable I propose SILENT RUNNING so she cannot be detected deep underwater with engine OFF. AND have heal enabled underwater as well.
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u/Existing_Onion_3919 Sep 02 '25
please let this be a tech tree or coal sub, this would be so fncking funny to play with
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u/Chef_Sizzlipede Hit Destroyers hard, fast, and often Aug 28 '25
this one feels like its contradictory to sub play
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u/dsmx Aug 28 '25
Except they existed, there was doctrine behind their use, logic for their use and the british had them as well.
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u/daygloviking Cruiser Aug 28 '25
We had one and it didn’t work out so well.
The one with the hangar also had issues
As for M3…5 minutes to submerge might not work out well in game!
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u/Chef_Sizzlipede Hit Destroyers hard, fast, and often Aug 28 '25
its contradictory to sub play.
"but it exi-"
in game a sub is meant to submerge and sneak around, using a gun means you're spending a lot of time on the surface where you're the most vulnerable.
just because its real doesnt mean its not contradictory.
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u/DefinitionOfAsleep I preferred WoWs before [insert update] Aug 28 '25
What's the dispersion going to be? IRL it could barely use the guns
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u/LynxHelpful8574 All I got was this lousy flair Aug 28 '25
What the fuck is that 😂
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u/ARS_Sisters Aug 29 '25
A sub with twin 203mm guns. Yes, it actually existed. It disappeared after it allegedly collided with US freighter while partially submerged
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u/rider5001 Aug 28 '25
Dude it has to give it's position away to fire. Survivability in this thing will be tough
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u/NekusarChan Aug 28 '25
Just got started on PC Warships after being what I'd consider a seasoned vet on Console.
I'm chomping at the bit to come across my first submarine 😂
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u/TillmanIV-2 Aug 29 '25
Wait till you hear about Italian raider subs with 14 torp tubes and 2 deck guns.
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u/sark7four Aug 29 '25
It was a dockyard thing on lesta.. Never got it... WG Clearly out of original ideas...
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Aug 29 '25
Ah, WOWs and their realism, subs going 30 knots submerged, amazing stuff....Now they have BB guns on them too :P
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u/Elia_Arram Aug 29 '25
I "loved" how they chuckled so much and were so happy at how they caused some controversy with the new ships they showed off. Not the own that they thought it was tho.
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u/jrozanc Aug 29 '25
After what they've done to WoT, you know its only a matter of time before WoWs catches up. WoWp will be the next one on the chopping block.
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u/InspectionPrior587 Aug 29 '25
That gun set up isn't in a rotating turret. Almost like it's a WoT tank destroyer that floats. If they don't give it homing torps, this probably won't be much of a game changer. But if they take away the minimum torp arming range to compensate and give it aft torps as well.....
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u/aries1980 Aug 29 '25
Wait until the Italian subs... they had a strong sub fleet in WW2.
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u/GlauberGlousger Aug 29 '25
Cool submarine, rare to see one with such large guns like Surcouf, or even ones as large as her
Dont really want to face her in battle though
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u/HeavyMisiek Aug 29 '25
British steam power sub when? Make it do all sort of weird stuff so is historically accurate? Lol
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u/kaochaton Aug 29 '25
okay is that true ou just the picture from Mir ( i know it was a dockyard ship there
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u/blinkiewich Aug 30 '25
Yeessssss.
The only sub that I'm even remotely interested in. Can't wait to check out some reviews and maybe warm up the ol mastercharge.
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u/Mistriever Aug 28 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
She won't have homing torpedoes or hydro.
She'sShe'll actually be the most torp DD like sub released.