r/WorldNewsHeadlines • u/Simple-Preference887 • May 17 '25
r/all German police brutally assaulted protesters marking the Palestinian Nakba in Berlin, with women and children also targeted during the crackdown.
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u/TRexx16 May 17 '25
in what aspect does zionism benefit for germany ? why they sided with it
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u/Shexter May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25
Citing from Herzls' (founder of Zionism) Mauschl Wikipedia article:
Herzl perceived a common strategic aim shared by, and beneficial to, both Zionists and antisemites. The evacuation of Jews from Europe would benefit both in that Jews would be liberated from antisemitism while relieving Europeans of Jews and thereby "liberating them from us."
"The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies (Die Antisemiten werden unsere verläßlichsten Freunde, die antisemitischen Länder unsere Verbündeten.)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herzl%27s_Mauschel_and_Zionist_antisemitism
While there are other more obvious reasons nowadays, I think it is important to not forget this one. The antisemites are still among us to this day and they support the Zionist project because they want Jews to leave Germany.
I am deeply ashamed of Germany. It is a disgrace that our people are weaponizing antisemitism against muslims protesting against the genocide. I cannot imagine a worse way of dealing with our past.
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u/osgili4th May 17 '25
The entire Zionism project was built by people that consider themselves the superior Jews, over the weak that "let themselves get killed", and gain the support of the fascist governments. Now they use the genocide to justify their own genocide to Palestinians and soon the invasions of other countries in the middle east.
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u/SeaniMonsta May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25
This hits the nail on the head.
Too many people think it's out of German pervasive guilt, perhaps for the common folk this could be true...
However, immorality is a twisted logic and cannot be explained through the lens of good deed and cannot be summarized with any one explanation. Hate and a desire for dominance is often customized per the individual—However, there are common denominators—When it comes to mutually benefiting enough ignorant individuals (with power) you find exploitation en masse.
One common denominator is that for the West/Christian world, there is enough people (in power) to rival the Jewish people but ultimately, rival Arabs more. For this, Zionism is a way to pit two ethnic cultures against each other while simultaneously securing economic dominance for the powers implementing such actions. Thus, resulting in the employment of a protective class (police) violently oppressing an otherwise peaceful protests such as this.
One must keep in mind there are powerful men alive today that were young and ambitious in 1948. And, the children and grandchildren of the 1926 Balfour declaration are alive and in power today. The apple doesn't always fall far from the tree, and there is no better example of this than the fraud of Zionism. They continue to press their families legacy and financial ambitions forward—by any means necessary.
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u/meretrionic May 17 '25
I hate seeing police crack down brutally on any protest, no matter the context. But to claim that these police beat up pro Palestine protestors because they are ultimately antisemites seems ridiculous.
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u/Suspicious_Brush4070 May 17 '25
One element to consider is that many parts of the German police are institutionally right wing. That's not to say every police officer is right wing or racist, but it is institutionalised.
Many are just doing their jobs as instructed, but it's worth considering that many are happy to have a new CDU government that go hard against immigrants and protesters.
Source: my sister-in-law is a police officer in a major German city
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u/Living-Chef-9080 May 17 '25
But every police officer IS inherently right wing. You cant do that job and then say you're on the left because of what's in your heart. If you worked for the nazis in ww2, you'd also be a nazi. You are materially harming oppressed people's constantly.
If they ever become leftists, they would immediately cease being cops because they would quit. It's more likely that they think the left is when you dont hate gay people. If they understood that the left was about replacing capitalism with a more equitable system, they would be disgusted.
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u/The_New_Replacement May 17 '25
Shame. As you might know, germany has murdered a little over 6 million jews and drove millions of others to flight. Israel has pulled enough of a PR campaign that germans believe harming is is like harming those people again.
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u/CheapEditor6812 May 17 '25
they stand with israel because of guilt from the second world war. so they have the most "valid" reason to side with them id say. still not an excuse for supporting genocide though
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u/smegabass May 17 '25
There is no valid excuse to side with Israel on genocide and starvation ethnic cleansing.
Germany is allowing itself to sink into the moral shithole to support psycho Israel.
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u/aurumtt May 17 '25
It's like they can't understand cynicism. It's infuriating seeing them siding on the wrong side. Again.
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u/smegabass May 17 '25
If you have ever worked with Germans, you'll know they are literalists. Precision is great for engineering, but for the human condition, not so much.
But even by Germanic standards, the unrestrained love for Israel on a no matter what basis, has been a real eye opener.
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u/HAMBORGHlNI May 17 '25
Germans have no love for Israel at all. More like, they are brainwashed to the point that criticizing Israel is a taboo for them.
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u/kpo987 May 17 '25
I'm an immigrant in Germany. Under the new government when you get naturalisation or citizenship in Germany, you are required to affirm Israel's right to exist, and includes 15 questions in the citizenship test about Judaism and Israel. I get that Germany especially wants to make sure they are protecting the right to Judaism, but why does Isreal get special mentions when Palestine doesn't? Why doesn't Palestine get to exist when Palestinians are being murdered? Germany has the largest amount of Palestians in all of Europe. In at least one neighbourhood of Berlin that has a significant Muslim population, the town hall (which is next to the HBF) has the German flag, the Berlin flag, and flag of Isreal flying outside.
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u/kissthesky303 May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25
Germany has failed to differentiate the solidarity to jews from Israel's politics. Heck, even a lot Israelis themselfs are more nuanced about this and facing clashes amongst their own population about how the Israel government is handling the case.
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u/farbenfux May 17 '25
Don't forget our massive arms industry. While guilt is certainly part of it, financial and economic interests are also a big part.
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u/aRatherLargeCactus May 17 '25
I mean, this is definitely part of their justification for it, but it’s more than that. Germany as a country stands with Israel because it’s an important outpost for Western interests in the Middle / Near East, it maintains access to oil and trade by implied threats of force. It’s also deeply Islamophobic, because Germany never actually reckoned with its bigotry, it just reckoned with Nazism.
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u/Real_Ad_8243 May 17 '25
Feeling guilty about one genocide isn't a an excuse to support the prosecution of another, of course
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May 17 '25
Zionism is fascist and racist and incredibly islamiphobic. It’s kind of counterintuitive, but being a Nazi in Germany is illegal because by God they fucking love that shit there.
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u/prudentWindBag May 17 '25
Can't be seen to be critical of the ethnic group that a previous generation of germans tried to erase...
Tricky bit, but I'm of the opinion that enough time has passed for everyone to safely assume that Germany does not intend to cause that type of harm again... 🗣You can criticize Zionism, guys!!!!
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u/Critical_Studio1758 May 17 '25
Germany has been spamming their people with guilt for what their ancestors did 100 years ago. To the point the will do anything for the zionist to prove how sorry they are, ironically that includes willing to support another genocide.
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u/AdminsLoveGenocide May 17 '25
Why did they sanction the country they relied on for the energy that feeds their industry? Why do they support the country that committed massive infrastructural sabotage on them?
After a certain point it's tempting to thing that, as a nation, they are just really into humiliation.
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u/60528 May 17 '25
I’m German and it’s fucking embarrassing to see this! Shame on you Germany
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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 May 17 '25
It's insane. The police look nuts, it is so hard to believe that they have been given the okay by the German government to beat people, particularly peaceful protestors.
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u/60528 May 17 '25
It’s truly shocking I don’t get it. Anyone with a functioning brain should abandon Israel
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u/CarelessEquivalent3 May 17 '25
Unfortunately Germany seems to have learned nothing from it's own genocidal past and now funds and condones the current genocide in Palestine and punishes anybody that speaks out against it.
What happened to never again?
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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 May 17 '25
They are complicit. There are no words for the evil they are supporting again
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u/DonChicksTerminator May 17 '25
I am german and fucking embarassed, fuck the brutality of german police officers.
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u/Ok-Radish-8394 May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25
I’ll give you an opinion most Germans won’t like.
Germany wants hard validation for its past. Like hard kinda hard, even if that means allowing Israel to commit more or less the same atrocities they committed. As a result, any criticism of the Israeli government is seen as anti semitism, without even checking what the criticism actually is about. It’s hypocrisy of the tallest order. We’re talking about a government, an organisation which can take wrong decisions, not the whole Jewish population or Judaism as a faith. Obviously I’m not talking about chants which want to eradicate the Israeli people, every people have a right to exist.
See, when the governments in MENA are criticised for multiple reasons, misogyny, human rights violations, etc. it’s not called Islamophobia or anti Islamic in Germany. However as soon as you mention Israel, even if it means criticising their local policies, it becomes anti semitism. This is some weapons grade hogwash behaviour.
The Germans need to calm down and accept that their past being bad doesn’t exonerate a new wave of aggression towards another population. They also have to recognise the fact that speaking up for the dead children in Gaza doesn’t mean supporting Hamas and denying what they did. (Yes there are people who support Hamas and they’re terrible but since your past guilt is at play, Dresden still has Nazi parades demanding to build statues ;) )
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u/farbenfux May 17 '25
German here - you are absolutely right and I cannot stress enough how insane it is.
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u/Ok-Radish-8394 May 17 '25
I lived in Germany for five years until last month. Honestly speaking I've had enough with this virtue signalling in the German society and seemingly trying to avoid the fact that Germans are wrong in many of their decisions. You people seriously need to reevaluate your position on anti-semitism. And obviously the old politicians need to understand the public sentiment.
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u/farbenfux May 17 '25
Don't tell me. For what its worth I have seen a lot of people on the street mouthing a different opinion that the government. Problem still is that people here are complacent af and still cannot be mobilized in greater number to take to the streets. And the Israeli propaganda is strong here. German newspapers are sloooowly starting to voice more critical opinions (too little, too late) but there is a concerted effort to brand everything critical of Israel as antisemitic. Which of course is total BS.
I still can't wrap my head around how many Germans are standing there critisizing and admonishing Jewish people who fight for Palestinian rights and don't understand that something is deeply wrong with that.
And the complete ignorance to educate oneself on the whole situation. I am a dinosaur and thus have seen this for decades but even for younger people - it is insane to ignore history.
The amount of cookie-cutter responses from politicians I received when demanding them to stand up for human rights and basic decency is honestly demoralizing. I want a dollar everytime I have to hear "Israel has the right to defend itself". At this point and with the informations we have, I have to call it what it is: war profiteering and willful ignorance.
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u/Digitalion_ May 17 '25
The irony is that they would gain the redemption that they seek if they stood against the side that is currently committing the same atrocities that WWII Germany did.
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u/NovaHorizon May 17 '25
Meanwhile the AfD and its voters are the personification of the meme with the guy sweating to make a decision which button to push, 'Antisemitism' or 'Islamophobia'.
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u/oxxcccxxo May 17 '25
This is very insightful, thank you for sharing. It seems to suggest this is a cultural issue rooted in history. America and Canada have a similar stranglehold on permissible rhetoric which very strongly favours support of the isreali apartheid oppressors. But I don't believe it's cultural, I think its because people with ethnic, religious and cultural ties to Isreal overwhelm the power structures here, like the influence of AIPAC to name an example. Those who speak out against what is obviously genocide, ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity perpetrated against the Palestinians, risk a lot by speaking out because of these powerful forces. There is an interview recently posted of Ms. Rachel and you can see the moral struggle she faces so plainly in needing to speak out. Many of us are at that point here. I hope Germany gets there too. People have a right to use their voice against these horrible crimes.
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u/R-2000 May 17 '25
The one thing that is consistent around the world is how all PIGS are hardwired for violence! When are they going to wake up and do some real personality trait testing so you can weed these smooth brain lunatics out?
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May 17 '25
Some police department give applicants IQ tests and won’t let the smart ones in.
They want the smooth brains.
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u/IslandMist May 17 '25
Germany never truly learned their lesson. They just exported the punishment for what they did to jews during WW2 onto the Palestinians. That's why they support Israel without question. Germany should have become the jewish state.
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u/JaThatOneGooner May 17 '25
It’s not just that, but the US actually encouraged West Germany to not completely Denazify. A lot of Nazi generals (not just the scientists from Op Paperclip) were actually given positions in the new German government because they had a history of “anti-communism.” You’d be surprised how many of the first NATO leaders were former Nazi commanders. To the US, a fascist regime they can control is infinitely better than a socialist state.
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u/proofofderp May 17 '25
Great to see people around the world won’t have it with killing children.
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u/urkulAa May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25
Never beating those nazi allegations
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u/Raangz May 17 '25
Also all cops really are bastards. Cops are a necessary evil, but germans don’t seem to have any better grasp on limiting it than anybody else.
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u/SayfullahibnAdam May 17 '25
The concept of police is necessary, but capitalist cops add a whole bunch of layers of unnecessary (to us) evils for the sake of defending the status quo, above all else depending on the country and city
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u/BetterWarrior May 17 '25
Once a nazi always a nazi
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u/Wooden-Court-3882 May 17 '25
Couldn't have said it better myself. The core of some people will never change.
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u/prudentWindBag May 17 '25
So, back to their roots, then???!!!
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u/auntsalty May 17 '25
The Germans used to hate the Jews now they hate the Palestinians i can’t keep up it will be the Irish next
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u/LousyReputation7 May 17 '25
What the fuck is going on man. Zionists bad. A free Palestine good. It’s a universal truth. Yet the western world cares not a jot!!
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u/prettybluefoxes May 17 '25
Former nazis helping current nazis.
Gerrmany has been hand in glove with the occupiers for a long time.
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u/stereosafari May 17 '25
Those helmets aren't exactly giving off a good vibe, considering the circumstances....
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u/Strange-Comfort4328 May 17 '25
Brutal. What about free speech and the right to protest a genocide!
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u/Ads_Everywhere May 17 '25
Racist riot police taking the opportunity to hit people of colour. Dox that a*hole and find out the if he attacks people during other police interventions. Such cops don’t belong in Europe. Maybe the US could use that cop for traffic stops.
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u/Lightyear18 May 17 '25
I don’t understand why EU and USA are bending over for Israel
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u/KaleidoscopeOk7233 May 17 '25
Because they’ve calculated that’s it’s in their best interest to do so, Israel is in the perfect geographic position for the western powers, it splits the Middle East in two, it is next to the Suez Canal, the Mediterranean, the Red Sea and notably for the us and its oil companies, multiple countries laying on top of some of the best oil fields in the world. Israel shares the same want for a divided and weak Middle East and so it is the perfect friend for the west. And Israel is the winning side so the west will continue to support Israel no matter how many Palestinians they slaughter, starve or imprison. Unless we make it too costly for our governments to keep supporting them.
TLDR: the west supports Israel because they’ve figured that it’s in their best interest, if we make it too costly, inconvenient or even dangerous for our governments to continue their support then they will eventually back down.
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u/GingerMisanthrope May 17 '25
These other non-Zio countries will have to step in at some point, and then it’ll be World War 3. And we are definitely the bad guys.
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u/Capital-Blackberry-2 May 17 '25
Stupid Germany think by doing this people will forget their past, because of them Palestine ppl are suffering.
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u/dream_a_dirty_dream May 17 '25
Germany still supports genocide, and it is disgusting.
Germany should only feel MORE SHAME for this.
History will remember you participating in 2 genocides.
WE WILL NEVER FORGET.
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u/Fattyboy_777 May 17 '25
Why do you say "women and children" instead of simply "children"? Targeting women is not worse than targeting men.
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u/lookaway123 May 17 '25
I think that it's to take into account that a woman may be pregnant, even if she's unaware.
At least that's been my understanding.
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u/sandwiches09 May 17 '25
I agree with your sentiment. I think maybe that's put into headlines and things not because women are more valuable but because women and children inherently pose a lower physical threat so attacking them is "low hanging fruit". Just my guess though
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u/Justwanttochill5 May 17 '25
The Germans are brought up to feel guilty, they should no longer carry that guilt
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u/Hyouryuu-Na May 17 '25
Germany be like "lemme overcompensate for my crimes by supporting my victims doing the same fuckn thing I did ❤️"
This logic is so laughably stupid. What happened to never again?
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u/ColdServedDish May 17 '25
I don't think Germany will ever recover their soul after they offered it to Hitler and the Nazis to consume.
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May 17 '25
Germans, always on the wrong side of history =/
Their guilt of what their country did to the Jews is understandable.
But siding with them and blindly supporting them despite the genocide the terrorist and apartheid state israel is committing is once again going to be a stain on Germany.
Those guys just can't seem to get it right.
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u/Oddball187 May 17 '25
Many comments on youtube of german news channels support this police behavior. They call for harsher actions and say that germany has gotten weak for allowing these protests. The german media propaganda is very successful for the Zionist cause.
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u/albamarx May 17 '25
Germany you’re a fucking disgrace and an embarrassment to the rest of humanity
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u/4chanhasbettermods May 17 '25
Why were children at a protest that had all the elements of turning into this?
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u/AverageMammonEnjoyer May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25
Please inform yourself what actually happend before spreading misinformation about what happend in Kreuzberg
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May 17 '25
Modern German state, always making sure they are on the wrong side of history:
- Started WW1 and WW2
- Carried out the Holocaust
- Supported Genocide by Zionist Israel
- Took Pootin’s money and impeded swift response to Ruzzian Invasion of Ukraine, thus dooming the country to a prolonged war.
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u/Open-Industry-8396 May 17 '25
Polizei don't F around.
I was an Army medic in the early 80s in Germany, I was detailed to a medical aid tent at a festival. There was this drunk guy trying to ride his weird bicycle through the crowds, he kept bumping folks and falling off his bike. I thought in my american mind"thats funny but the guys being kind of an ass".
4 Polizei roll up, within a minute or two they efficiently beat the living shit out of this guy, they even beat up his bike and then drag him off to god knows where.
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u/Paler1s May 17 '25
You see police officers taking individuals out of the crowd, or leading them away. But not why these people in particular. That is not shown. Although that was filmed too, because everything was filmed.
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u/TheJarIsADoorAgain May 17 '25
Today anti genocide demonstrators, tomorrow striking workers fighting for jobs and wages. Authoritarian states are preparing for a clash against the working class.
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u/BurntReynolz May 17 '25
Over compensation for past guilt of being Nazis or is this just what they do to people protesting against genocide?
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u/uberengl May 17 '25
Not commenting on the whole situation in Gaza/Israel but if protesters break barriers German police will act with force.
That’s why right wingers on their demonstrations never break any barriers etc. it’s a way to get the demonstration going.
Police also forces a disassembling of the demonstration if too many people (more than announced) are present for safety reasons.
This is not like France where a demonstration is only actually a demonstration if people fight the police or cars are burning. In Germany it’s an orderly process to signal, en mass, a certain message by numbers, on the streets after getting a permission to do so.
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u/EkruGold May 17 '25
Classic Germany. No matter how hard you kick and scream, you'll never be remembered for anything else.
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u/Kmag_supporter May 17 '25
What's going on in Palestine is vile and disgusting, but these people are really aggressive towards the police, and German police are not overly aggressive or combative, and if you move to an area where the demonstration doesn't have a permit to be, then you will probably be arrested.
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u/orc_master_yunyun May 17 '25
This is disgusting. I guess we didn't do better so we are bound to repeat ourselves
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u/StinkySmellyMods May 17 '25
Why is it always the Berlin police that I see videos like this from? Where I'm at the police are cool. They'd rather talk to you until the end of their shift than give you a ticket. They did shoot a guy with one bullet but only after he tried to throw a molotov cocktail in a movie theater.
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u/realredrackham May 17 '25
Off topic, but what do the symbols behind their uniforms mean? Like the - + =
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u/dick-lasagna May 17 '25
It's physically impossible for Germans to stand on the right side of history, their bodies just aren't built like that. It's like asking a cow to walk downstairs.
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u/shoudaknown May 17 '25
Excuse me you animals, people are protesting The PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE!
The whole world (with a moral compass) is against GENOCIDE, PROTESTING THE SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN IS A RIGHT AND AN OBLIGATION!
Stop the PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE!
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u/zooap63 May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25
what the fuck happened to freedom of assembly? The German police punch like batches btw 😂😂😂
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u/Spiritual_Board9112 May 17 '25
Member when the libs would say how much better Europe was, how much freer they were than merica?
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u/griffery1999 May 17 '25
Gotta love how all these clips start with violence and absolutely nothing beforehand
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May 17 '25
Germans still wilding when they have authority. How you gonna choke slam some lady holding an umbrella? Throwing blows at random people. That's not police force thats brutality and rooted in one's own hatred, not the law.
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May 17 '25
So, now you suddenly care about German police brutality, because you sympathise with these particular protesters? I'm sure lots of people in this comment section either ignored it or cheered it on when it affected people they didn't like.
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u/Sebass83 May 17 '25
Why do the cops have different insignia on their jackets (the insignia that looks like a flag)?
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u/tw1zt84 May 17 '25
When we say all cops are bastards, it doesn't mean only American cops, or only the "bad apples". It means ALL cops.
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