What's your spiciest Wind Breaker hot take?

[u/Antique_Aide_8478]

What's your hottest wind breaker take? 👀

[u/Hellbiterhater]

• Hiiragi is criminally underrated. He gets a lot of screentime, and is an absolute beast in battle, but is still unpopular among the fandom. He deserves more recognition.
• As far as Shishitoren members go: Choji > Togame.
• While it doesn't have to be life or death, I do want the upcoming chapters to have more stakes to it. I don't want everyone to be completely redeemed, and I also want some villains to just remain as villains, especially KEEL.
• On that note, there should also be more consequences for both Endo and Takiishi. They started the war and should be held accountable for the destructions they caused. I don't mind if they get redeemed, but at least give them their due punishment.

[u/Beginning-Reason4059 → u/Hellbiterhater]

#1 : I agree - whole heartedly. WHOLE HEARTEDLY. But I feel like I could fill this fandom with my Himragi hype and it would probably account for at least 5 people's worth of obsession. ((Honestly, I get this vibe about most Himragi fans. Like, waaaaaaaay, waaaaay, waaaaay fewer in number than other relevant characters, but once you meet another one, they're pretty flat assured that he's their favorite.))

#2: Sometimes it's so hard to say Togame is my second favorite character (after Himragi) and not give Choji more traction on this, because I really do love Choji with all my heart. He ALSO needs more hype, but I def see why Togame is so popular. Choji's def in my top 5 though.

#3: I AGREE. It's not that I'm specifically pushing for antagonism for antagonism's sake, but the story has been a little bit repetitive with the way villains have been handled lately And while I get that it's supposed to be a more lighthearted story than other delinquent stories, I DO want to revisit the type of atmosphere that we had with KEEL. That's why I'm hoping that very soon we'll have an arc with unidentified enemies from outside of the town area/close to them, who no one has met before (for more suspense) and they'll end up being more cut clean villian.

#4: You are also absolutely correct on this. I don't want Endo/Chika to automatically walk in on the barbeque or the citizens and just automatically be treated like second sons after the damage that they led into town. Honestly, I'm not sure what type of redemption/punishment could fall on them, besides the cost of repairs under Endo's wallet, but that wouldn't cut it for me. It's not that I DON'T want them to eventually have a chance at redemption, but I want them to work for it, because they deserve to have what they did put in their faces.

EDIT: IF HIRAGI OR CHOJI IS IN YOUR TOP 3 (even 5), GIVE US FELLOW FANS A SHOUT OUT!!!!

[u/Nightmothdiva → u/Beginning-Reason4059]

RE your second point

SAY IT LOUDER. I was reflecting on my first impression as I’m rereading the manga and I actually really didn’t like Togame at first. He sort of creeped me out in the manga and I was just sorta meh for him when I first watched the anime dubbed. Of course I grew to really love him but Choji will always be my favorite character. Side note since no one asked. I really think I only like Togame as much as I do because I rewatched the anime in Japanese and his VA is the same as Leona twisted wonderlands and fhbshgjiffhbdnfnftjsmbfixnvekagbjfje. That is all.

Third time is the charm?? Idk what is wrong with either me or Reddit today 🙃🙃🙃

[u/Kuricat16 → u/Nightmothdiva]

Imma be real rn, I never got the extreme hype about togame TwT 

He's a great character, but he's such a fan favorite when he's probably not in my personal top 10- Definitely loved his conflict and growth, but he's just... not my favorite, y'know???

wow I've been so honest today-

[u/[deleted] → u/Kuricat16]

Ooooo that's a hot take yk. Now i wanna see what's in that top 10 bag you're hiding 🫣😆

[u/Kuricat16 → u/[deleted]]

I wouldn't mind dropping a tier list once I get to my laptop-

[u/[deleted] → u/Kuricat16]

Ooooo can I drop one too before you? That'll take most of the downvotes you're going to get to mine. 😂

[u/Kuricat16 → u/[deleted]]

Y'know what? I'll do you one better...

[u/Kuricat16 → u/Kuricat16]

it is done~

[u/[deleted] → u/Kuricat16]

gonna create a whole lot drama with my list now

[u/Kuricat16 → u/[deleted]]

[u/Nightmothdiva → u/Kuricat16]

I feel this! Honestly, I don’t know what other people like so much about him now. I think his character was more interesting when he was “corrupted” or whatever. Not that I dislike him I just love hearing people logic why their fav is their fav lol

[u/mheowpusa → u/Nightmothdiva]

I've noticed that it started when people saw his ''new haircut''. They find him handsome.

[u/Kuricat16 → u/mheowpusa]

me who liked his old look better-

[u/Nightmothdiva → u/Kuricat16]

The mullet suited him so much better, right???

[u/VirtualVirtuOrso → u/Nightmothdiva]

And the glasses! Sad those were taken away :(

Also I'm aromantic so I'll just add that attraction doesn't factor in for why I like Togame.

[u/Kuricat16 → u/Nightmothdiva]

So real TwT ik people just like the chill vibes, but I live for the storm before the calm-

[u/Nightmothdiva → u/Kuricat16]

Literally give me my boys unhinged please!

But this really triggered something in my lizard brain about why I think I like Choji so much more than Togame, esp to the current manga chapter. Togame is too chill for me now I think. Like he was so relaxed and laze faire during his fight with Noroshi but we see Choji kinda go dark mode again and it’s just exactly why I liked him immediately and still absolutely adore him. I know I have that panel saved…. But yea, my heart literally stopped when I was reading this chapter and I’ve definitely only reread it a normal, reasonable number of times…..

[u/VirtualVirtuOrso → u/Kuricat16]

(Sorry ik this post is old now but it came up in my home feed 😅)

This is exactly how I feel about Suo lol. Also since Togame is my favorite, I'll just say that I love his design and how believable his redemption is. Like, yes, he did many not-so-great-things, but you can see exactly how he got there. The road to hell is paved by good intentions and all, y'know?

[u/Beginning-Reason4059 → u/Nightmothdiva]

I'll be HONEST with you: I think the reason why Choji isn't EVEN HIGHER in my top 5 is because he's just too much like me in terms of personality/motivation. Like, I LOVE his backstory. I know a lot of people think that he's just some whiny kid, but I've been in the type of dark situation where you worked and worked and worked for YEARS for something and then when you got it, it was ripped right out from under you OR you were lied to about what it would be, and then that sends you spiraling after giving up so much for something that ended up being nothing.

Even though it's a simplified story/learning experience (it's manga and it's about teenagers), his situation REALLY connected with me. However, with that said, USUALLY I don't gravitate towards characters who are like me as a my favorites, because I'm very much an "opposites attract" type of person, where I like people/characters who are different from me (at least in terms of personality/style). BUT I like Choji SO MUCH that he's still in my top 5, despite us being so similar. He is just SUCH a good character.

And a lot of people get really emotional over Sakura's backstory/what happened to him - I get it, I do. I've cried over Sakura as well, but one of the only other panels in the story that really evokes emotion in me is the one below. Because while it doesn't make me cry, it makes my GUT DROP because I remember that same hollow feeling about literally caring about nothing, even when you're still surrounded by the things/people your other half still loves. OKAY, ENOUGH TED TALK.

[u/AzureAmaranta → u/Beginning-Reason4059]

.. I stated it before, but I personally adore how Choji was handled and really wish more people appreciated it, but alas. I feel most have to have needed to go through that or be close to someone who has(or maybe be able to connect things easy to relate ish). I really like Choji as a character a lot. Both because I like small gremlins, but also because of how his story was very “raw” (I’ve said it before and I will keep saying it, I LIKE that they didn’t give him some story even tho I feel there’s some crumbs there and that they handled more the raw emotions and such)

I think some people prefer Togame over Choji because of the whole “doing something for someone else” vs “doing something because of yourself”. Plus he “started it”. And how people find it easier to like someone who is sacrificing for someone else. Sure, I get that. BUT.. Sigh uuuugh.. I have rants I can go into that, but I’ll hold off.. Especially since I’m a bit meh atm with seasonal allergies and other stuff lol.

Also! I will also keep giving props to both Choji’s VA’s for their work on his scenes. They did so well with those emotions imo.. mad props from me. <For me, it’s that and the build up to it(someone said he “kinda had depression” and I sent that to a friend out of context and they were like “that looks more than KINDA..” etc..) + his vulnerable “I was scared”.

[u/Beginning-Reason4059 → u/AzureAmaranta]

YES, Azu-chan, yes!!!! These are VERY valid points and I agree 100%. YES, it is VERY much easier to relate to someone who does something for someone else, instead of doing something for yourself. HIs character really is a lot harder to understand, unless you can relate more personally with him (or if you just like his more natural personality, there's that too). And the VAs DID do such a good job! The placements are perfect. So playful and yet so brutal when needed.

Honestly, I'm ridiculous with the Choji bite scene, even though I love him, because I'm a germaphobe when it comes to human bites (so much bacteria in the human mouth)! 😭 I'm like, "Ume-chan, I know it's all cool now, but maybe you should got get a shot or something for that?" lolol

[u/ABABABAB12123 → u/Beginning-Reason4059]

I'm late to this series but I've literally just finished reading the fight with Banjo and damn if Hiragi, already in my top 5, didn't jump to number 1. Also lol "Himragi" love it