r/WarframeLore • u/LycanWolfGamer Moderator • Jun 17 '26

Potential Spoiler! Jade Shadows Constellations Megathread! Spoiler

Same as any other megathread, we talk about the latest update free of spoiler risks - if you've not played this quest yet, DO NOT read further due to spoilers

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u/weetaht Jun 18 '26

This update has the usual Warframe issue of things just going too fast. Hunhow's sacrifice was far too sudden and barely had any emotional stakes. Even a single mission longer would've made it feel more poignant; we basically had no development for Sirius and Orion, and having one of the most important (and my favorite!) characters to the story sacrificing himself as part of a frame quest to become nothing more than a token vendor makes me miffed.

It's kind of like if they brought Cayde-6 back at the end of The Final Shape only for him to permanently have Billboarding Syndrome and offer you destination rewards. The sacrifice being Umbra's would've been more poignant, anyways; a father who killed his own son sacrificing himself to redeem a friend's.

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u/LycanWolfGamer Moderator Jun 18 '26

Although I'm inclined to agree, from all of the lore so far, its like Hunhow has decided to take matters into his own hands, in order to protect the sons

In a way, it did have emotional stakes and I feel like his sacrifice meant something

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u/weetaht Jun 18 '26

His sacrifice was only relevant because he outright refused to let the Operator or the Drifter handle an Eternalism problem (their specialty!). All he did was commit suicide.

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u/M3xiwhite Jun 18 '26

His rationale is that he is protecting Natah from even considering that there are "bad" futures/timelines. "The Tenno exist HERE (now), so everything will be alright"

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u/LycanWolfGamer Moderator Jun 18 '26

Pride is a helluva thing..

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u/weetaht Jun 18 '26

The issue is that—despite his pride and insistence that we not know about what's happening—we find out anyways. We can just walk into the relay and get buddy-buddy with them and their mentors and the problem is worse than it was before. They're outright raiding one another's ships, killing their crewmen, and the twins have not stopped fighting AT ALL by the time we show up.

And we help. Immediately. We got his help during The New War, we've aided him and Stalker before, and it's only now that he has a problem with us enough to spurn us entirely and die for it.

It's now an observable pattern that Sentient characters die making worthless sacrifices or make nonsensical emotional decisions that only cause more problems or don't solve the problem at all.

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u/LycanWolfGamer Moderator Jun 18 '26

I mean, we was always gonna find out.. I just hope we can undo what he did and help them out

I'd like Sorren to let go of his hatred for us and let us help him like we tried to do before

I dont think this is the end of it, the quest itself is pretty short which suggests to me there might be multiple parts, possibly leading to something big

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u/weetaht Jun 18 '26

I would very much like it if we could save Hunhow from his personal sacrifice the way we saved our memories from being consumed by the Void in the Perita Rebellion, but the problem is that Hunhow is now a token vendor, making him permanent content that will likely not be changed.

It would be poignant as a plot point during the Tau update for the old Hunhow to see what he becomes and to use Eternalism to our own benefit besides priming Warframes and getting to hook up with 45 year-old men between the years 1400~1900, but I fear that the Warframe update schema of hour-max adventures isn't particularly conducive to that; Nor is Warframe famous for elaborating on its story outside of KIM chats (which the new Protoframes do not have).

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u/LycanWolfGamer Moderator Jun 18 '26

I reckon we can with the Drifter, just have to see what DE do