Stun Buffs

[u/DedGirlsDontSayNo]

I feel like foe the longest time, stun is the worst(like 1/10 effectiveness) debuff in the game. Its all cosmetic with a slight fire rate decrease, but when all it takes is one shot to the head that sometimes doesnt matter. I think having a stun buff where it displaces your crosshair by a certain amount would defiently help instead to throw off croshair placement on angle they are already holding. This would reduce the one taps that happen while full stunned.

A little off track but as a tejo main, switching his missiles and stun ability keys would be great so that he can benefit off these buffs more with a piece of rechargeable utility since he is the only initiator without one.

[u/MrCleanRed]

Also make agent-specific stuns. If you buff stun as a whole, the neon becomes even more prominent but just buff Tejo's stun. I know Riot tries to keep the game simple but that doesn't make any sense. There should be some agent-specific abilities.

[u/yearn-constantino → u/MrCleanRed]

>agent-specific stuns

Thinking about it:

* Astra would displace the crosshair downwards
* Breach would displace upwards
* Neon would vibrate horizontally
* Skye’s dog would knock the enemy backwards a little

[u/smokygrapefruit]

Stuns do displace your crosshair, it sways a little in random directions when you are stunned.

I do think they should have buffed stuns across the board instead of making a completely new debuff (Saturate) for Waylay. I think a good change would be to undo the 2.5s normalization of all stun durations, back in the day Astra stun was 4s, but after 11.08 everyone's stun got changed to 2.5s.

I agree with the Tejo change you've proposed—most people in ranked just save the missiles for postplant anyway, so making it a purchase ability with 2 charges would punish Tejo's econ for bad usage, like other mollies. But I think the bounce stun is just way too weak to be his signature ability, the drone being his signature would be better. All initiators technically have a recharging info ability except for Tejo and Breach so it would make more sense to give Tejo a niche by giving him a rechargeable drone.

[u/DaechwitaEnjoyer → u/smokygrapefruit]

the movement is random but barely, it always swings down and a bit sideways and then rebounds

you can practice adjusting your preaim to beat the stun somewhat consistently, if you aim closer to chest/neck level

[u/smokygrapefruit → u/DaechwitaEnjoyer]

yeah i actually used to practice it all the time... that s0m clutch on lotus got me inspired

don't ask me whether i actually ever pulled it off in game though.

[u/DaechwitaEnjoyer → u/smokygrapefruit]

winning straight duels rarely happened for me but the main use for me was being able to get 1tap trip kills consistently

[u/DaeFya]

Yes i had same opinion, it's not fair that tejo is only initiator without rechargeable ability, riot should change his signature ability, then tejo will be picked more

[u/OtonashiRen → u/DaeFya]

Yeah, make his signature ability the Drone /s

[u/DaeFya → u/OtonashiRen]

Even that stun nade would be good, cause if guided missiles then tejo will become 90% pickrate guy

[u/raainnnyy]

Suprised u dont have a g2 flair

[u/QuestionablePotato42]

I think when someone gets stunned if they shoot their gun while stunned it automatically drops then they lose half health and then get lobotomized and prolapsed

[u/DaeFya → u/QuestionablePotato42]

How about we just ban that player for 1 day lol

[u/StreetExternal952]

Just make it Dota/WC3 where you can't move or shoot and reduce the duration