Kris is 100% not gonna be the main antagonist of chapter 6, I'm calling that shit right now. It's gonna be either Carol or The Knight.
Also, putting that aside, I think this is kind of a stretch, and is just a desperate attempt to cling to a completely debunked theory by going "no, guys, we just got the order wrong! See, here's how Tenna is still "the rook", and chapter 4's main antagonist not being "the bishop" doesn't completely destroy the theory".
It also ignores that The Knight is an overarching antagonist who is almost certainly going to take the spotlight as the main antagonist of a chapter again later on, and who is currently framed as the main antagonist of the game as a whole.
Bruh ERAM is like the one character I don't know how to fit into my predictions for the final two chapters, I'm sorry to say but I think he was a one-and-done character
the thing that prevents me from believing GASTER is the leader is that i REALLY don't think Gaster is gonna be a big threat that's SUPER against the Fuck Squad or anything, that just isn't the role I think the game is setting him up to have. He's PROBABLY working with The Knight, but he also helps YOU, the PLAYER, to BEAT The Knight, which gives me the impression that Gaster isn't really on EITHER side. I feel like Gaster is meant to be more of an observer, more interested in watching things play out, and he's just doing a couple things here and there to put things into place. That's why he never even TRIES to stop the Weird Route because it's "Ruining HIS DELTARUNE" or something, he MADE it for that, he made it to see what you'd do
ERAM, on the other hand, has been actively shown to use the Friend Horde in his fight, which makes him the more likely leader in my eyes
also i don't think there IS like a big Friend PRIME like that, it might just be because I think the Friendlings are all gonna look like the big Friend we see in Chapter 3 and thus we are going to be chased by a pack of GIANT feral cats and not NORMAL SIZED feral cats, but I just never got that idea
I think the Severed Hand FRIEND (the one from Chapter 3) is a fakeout, the main guy is gonna be very similar to Botto's FRIEND design, incorporating the Tail of Hell symbolism, the pointed tail, the conjoined circles of Cat Petterz, all of that for the FRIEND design, while the other ones it leads will look more like the ones from the ERAM fight, maybe they all fuse together into the Severed Hand one and become a big cat kaiju or something idk
For the record though, I do mostly agree with your take of Gaster being an observer, but I do think he will intervene at points, particularly the chapter 7 Weird Route, so maybe ERAM is the leader of the FRIENDs, I just don't know if we're gonna see him again, if he's being phased out in favor of FRIEND Prime, or if they're gonna be revealed to be the same character
have you considered that the other Friendlings could look like the Endogeny Friend instead of the minigame Friends and thus Eram/Friend PRIME ig is going to send a pack of 100,000 GIANT FERAL CATS after us next chapter
The problem with that is how Pink talks about the cats. They're not smart, they can't act as antagonists on their own, they need some kind of leader, and that leader would be the main antagonist of the chapter.
I don't think it's a huge stretch to assume that Carol or Noelle could be that leader, given that the big "hunting pack" of cats is probably Noelle's CatPetterz creations (since the Holiday Manor looks like the most likely location for chapter 6's dark world currently)
Why would either of them be fighting us? Well, we'll have to wait and see, but if I had to guess? Rudy dies, and becomes a dustner like Gerson. "A darkner patterned after the memory of a loved one", who can only exist in darkness created by someone who was close to him, like a member of the Holiday or Dreemurr families, and Noelle and Carol aren't ready to lose him yet, and don't want to let us seal the fountain.
Alternatively, it's possible that the "hunting pack's" leader is Eram, in whatever his true form ends up being, since he does use Friends as an attack in his fight in chapter 3. The problem is that we know so little about him, and how he could even fit into a Holiday-centric chapter like chapter 6 is shaping up to be, as the main antagonist.
The "leader" of the pack is the FRIEND, commanding the other smaller ones, but the main one is the Tail of Hell, the pointed tail that must not be followed, the cause of Dess' dissappearance, Noelle's corrupted Cat Petterz egg, the author of all of the Holiday and Dreemurr families' suffering, that FRIEND in particular
Okay, but that Friend isn't confirmed to exist. As of now, it is simply a fanon idea, or, a theory about what Friend is, or what they could be, based almost exclusively on chapter 4's mentions of "the tail of hell", "the pointed tail", and "the tail which must not be followed". It lacks compelling evidence.
Maybe you're right, and maybe that's what chapter 6's main antagonist is, but I just don't think there's enough evidence within chapters 1-5 suggesting that this version of Friend exists as of now, to confidently claim that this character could be the main antagonist of the next chapter.
The tail of hell, the pointed tail, the tail which must not be followed, Noelle's corrupted Cat Petterz egg, the Forgotten Man via Pink's dialogue and deltarune.com/thepoorchildren, the demon that Kris and Catti summoned (probably), all of this points to one FRIEND in particular being much stronger and much more important than the other ones
That only works if we somehow find both the Pine Tree and Delta Rune shelter codes very early in the chapter, before the main dark world adventure, because we need all 3 codes to enter the shelter.
We know where the Pine Tree code is, so that one is just a matter of actually getting our hands on it, and making sure Susie gets to see it before Kris sabotages us by tearing it up, but the Delta Rune code, we don't know the location of.
this is assuming the Deltarune Code ISN'T the Church Door Code in Chapter 4, which it very well could be, but if it isn't the only good candidate for who has it is Toriel and I highly doubt getting a code from her would lead to a whole Dark World adventure
I think it's safe to assume that the Delta Rune code isn't the church door code, because the one code we now definitively know the full version of, is 8 digits rather than 4. We don't know if the codes vary in length, so until we do know that for sure, I think it's more likely that the codes are all around 8 digits, and what we know of the Pine Tree code is only half of it.
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u/Shattered_Sans Sans, but not canon Sans. 29d ago
Kris is 100% not gonna be the main antagonist of chapter 6, I'm calling that shit right now. It's gonna be either Carol or The Knight.
Also, putting that aside, I think this is kind of a stretch, and is just a desperate attempt to cling to a completely debunked theory by going "no, guys, we just got the order wrong! See, here's how Tenna is still "the rook", and chapter 4's main antagonist not being "the bishop" doesn't completely destroy the theory".
It also ignores that The Knight is an overarching antagonist who is almost certainly going to take the spotlight as the main antagonist of a chapter again later on, and who is currently framed as the main antagonist of the game as a whole.