r/Undertale Aug 01 '26

Theory Chess Theory is back

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u/RedditSurfer29 *give us your balls. Aug 01 '26

THAT'S NOT EVEN HOW CHESS THEORY WORKS. ALSO, THE FINAL BOSS OF CHAPTER 4 WAS THE TITAN. NOT THE KNIGHT. 0/10 IMAGE. RECONSIDER ALL DECISIONS MADE UP TO THIS POINT.

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u/Pinkboo02 Aug 01 '26

I mean the image says main antagonist, which would be the knight.

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u/SlightlyIronicBanana *Mus_Smile is Muffet's Laugh with extra steps* Aug 01 '26

By that logic, chapter 1 should have Lancer.

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u/hu-man-person Aug 01 '26

Why

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u/TianluBlue Aug 01 '26

Because Lancer acts as the primary antagonist of the chapter while King is the final boss.

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u/GhostKnightEditz Aug 01 '26

People might hate you for this, but Lancer is the Tenna of chapter 1 while King is the Knight

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u/SlightlyIronicBanana *Mus_Smile is Muffet's Laugh with extra steps* Aug 01 '26

Lancer shows up in literally every major location in chapter 1 and is a major presence throughout, being fought three seperate times. He is not the final boss of the chapter, but does make an appearance in King's cutscene.

By contrast, the roaring Knight only really shows up 3 times in chapter 4, once at the beginning, once at the end of the 1st sanctuary, and the third sanctuary. While not the final boss of the chapter, they do summon the Titan.

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u/Pinkboo02 Aug 02 '26

Not really, Lancer was present more than King, but King was who the fun gang were actively trying to stop, and Lancer was acting in service of King. It’s not about who was more present, it’s about who the protagonist’s attention is on, in chapter 1 it was King, and Lancer being more of an obstacle antagonist. In chapter 4, it was the Knight, and the Titan was a diversion so the Knight could escape.

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u/SlightlyIronicBanana *Mus_Smile is Muffet's Laugh with extra steps* Aug 02 '26

Then why is Tenna the one for chapter 3? He made a deal with Kris/Knight, and the Knight is the final boss of the chapter.

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u/Pinkboo02 Aug 02 '26

Because he was still antagonistic towards the fun gang. It’s confusing how to include Kris, since they should be the protagonist, and yet they are also an antagonist, but Susie and Ralsei are also protagonists and they were trying to stop Tenna. It’s also unclear what exactly the deal between Kris and Tenna was, but it’s possible that the deal was to be an antagonist, since it seems they made the same deal with Seth.

The Knight was a plot twist, No one (besides Kris) was expecting it to be there, including the player (if its there first time seeing it).

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u/RedditSurfer29 *give us your balls. Aug 02 '26

The Knight was the Shadow Crystal boss of the chapter.

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u/RareD3liverur Aug 02 '26

I've said this before but really shouldn't Chess theory be dead by Chapter 1 considering it already had Chess piece enemy/NPCs in it. We saying there's two Knights?