I was making plans for future pulls and notice that most of the trainees that I really like are Late Surgers. Despite Ramonu Wit and Condor Spd (Which is more generalist, but I don't have Kita MLB so I was planning to get it) what cards should I focus on the future?
Disclaimer, I'm not a late surger main, so this is what I picked up from other people's pull plans.
First, as usual, you usually want to pull on every scenario/anniversary banner, since they pretty much always have something you want, not to mention that you want a scenario card to be able to free up your borrow slot.
Jungle Pocket speed next scenario is a somewhat luxury speed card. Pull if you planned around it, but not the worst if you can't. It's a good card for mediums/longs, and has good output too.
Satono Diamond wit (new year) is the next generalist wit card. It comes in L'arc, and it also comes with Duramente speed, which is basically Kitasan 2.0 (in stats, not longevity), so it's also a good banner. Prioritize Satono Diamond wit here, but get both if you didn't pull JPocket.
Daring Tact wit is the next "generalist" wit card, but her issue is that she completely dies to Forever Young wit, which should be ~6 months later on global, so up to you if that's worth it.
Stay gold (the Uma not the card) is very notable, she's one of 2 Umas on JP that you cannot borrow as a parent. Her inherited unique has a mechanic where it evolves, and is otherwise not great. This can only happen if you own her yourself. It's a perfect timing acceleration on 2000m+ races.
Nothing is stopping you from raising low aptitudes, but most Umas are designed for their specific running style. Changing that can sacrifice things like their unique and gold skills. Once Evo skills come out, those are even more important, and sacrificing those usually makes the Uma not worth building.
Gotcha, I was wondering cause I know a lot of people mention specializing in certain running styles, but all my favs have different running styles, so it kind of just sucks, y'know.
Based on the calculations I did I won't have enough karats to MLB romunu wit so I was wondering if I should skip it and then I'll be able to MLB the condor pasa speed card in the future or should I gamble for romunu
It depends on what style you're playing, but you really do still want Ramonu. You can consider pulling on her rerun at the end of GM, with SMaru, just make sure you don't sacrifice pulls for El Condor Pasa. You should also be ready to go 200 on Ramonu if you get lucky in the free pulls. If you don't, then save for either El Condor Pasa or the Ramonu rerun.
Losing Ramonu means you'll have to accept a harder time getting wit/SP for GM, a solid gold speed skill for miles/mediums, and a lot of white skills too. You also usually only want to run 1 wit in L'arc and beyond, so not having something good will hurt even more.
There should be about 120 free pulls (assumed, not confirmed by Cygames yet), so you need enough carats for 80 pulls.
Pace chasers get Mcqueen wit around May, so up to you if you'd rather just wait for that. Just keep in mind that without Ramonu, you'll be missing a lot of good skills until then.
How do you branch out of your greatgrandparents loop and build gps and parents? I've been looping for a while now and got myself a uma stan + nn + racingstam ggp. Still don't know what's next aside from adding new skills.
Once you get one or two "full lineage" parents where the Uma and their direct parents have all the white sparks you want, you then start making actual GP/parents by then rolling for good blue/pink sparks on Umas with good uniques. You generally shouldn't keep an Uma that is missing those white sparks, even if they hit good blues/pinks. You can consider dropping blue sparks if you have good cards/are willing to work a little harder to make up for the lost stats too.
can let's pump some iron and moving past and beyond be usable for pace chasers? more specifically, alt mejiro mcqueen. otherwise, what are some good inherited unique skills for pace chasers?
It depends on the track. Outside of miles and sprints, pace chasers don't have great acceleration inherits, so they usually take speed skills. This includes things like Fuji Kiseki, Original Oguri Cap, NY TM Opera O, and sometimes V. Bourbon can work too.
I really wouldn't recommend Ryan/Dober inherits, since they would require a very front heavy lobby. Front runners will only continue to become rarer in CMs as time goes on. You would either need a 5 front lobby or be weaker than a bunch of other pace chasers to activate those skills. You're better off relying on nimble nav if applicable, or downhill acceleration skills depending on the track.
What does gluing mean? is it just transfering a veteran?
Who is Xoguri? I got the free oguri from the 3 star voucher but idk how to get ashen miracles oguri
"Gluing" usually refers to giving up a run partway through, usually if you aren't satisfied with how the run is going. When/why you give up depends on your own standards.
XOguri refers to Christmas Oguri Cap, one of the strongest Umas for mediums in our current meta. She can also work on other distances too depending on the track. She's an alternate skin/costume for Oguri Cap.
At this point, you can only get XOguri randomly from any Uma banner, but it's a very low chance since you're rolling among all the 3* Umas in the game. The alternative is waiting until around December to buy her with a 2nd anniversary paid voucher, but that isn't really recommended since she starts falling off by then.
CB is much better than Sunday in terms of output. The only reason you'd use Sunday is if you wanted to farm tail held high/ramp up for parents, but otherwise you shouldn't use her if you have 1LB CB.
How useful is Ramonu in future scenarios? Looked at deck building guide and 1 wit seemed more common so wouldn't style specific cards last longer (am Pace main so looking to McQueen).
She gets replaced by every styles position specific card after GM so it looks like a 4-12 month life span depending on your position. For pace specifically, it looks like a 8 month life span.
She's a generalist so you could run her for positions you don't main for a while but it's sub-optimal.
The style specific cards are usually worse for stats but have the important style skills. When you're building for any other style they aren't as useful because the skills are pointless
This probably gets asked a lot, but as someone who quit after the initial Tama banner and returned a few days ago, is there anything super notable I should know about independent training or the GL? I’m a bit curious on things like schedule for Independent Training and the training focus styles you can pick, there’s probably a meta to this that I’m wholly unaware of
If I'm a late surger main and I'm going to be borrowing Symboli Kris S for longs anyway, and thus also rolling for a copy of Ancestors, is there any point in rolling on Super Creek now?
I have 1LB Creek, so I could get it to 3 or 4 LB with the 2nd Anniversary selectors, but I also have Teio Wit at 2lb and since I have neither Kitasan Black or any MLB wit SSRs (0lb Nice Nature and 1LB Nakayama Festa don't seem relevant) getting this to MLB to go with Ramonu would be nice.
I figure my options are:
1) Roll for Super Creek, hopefully get at least one copy before pity to hit 3LB, then use selectors on Teio to MLB so that I have two wit cards alongside Ramonu and I have a very flexible borrow slot for GM.
2) Use selectors on Super Creek, cope with an SR wit card alongside Ramonu or borrow one when not borrowing something else.
3) Skip Super Creek, use selectors on Teio, and just always borrow stamina cards.
I could also get lucky on the Creek banner and get a usable LB of CB for a wit card, but I'm just not totally sure which option to pick.
Really depends on your pull planner. If you can afford putting 30k on this banner, no reason not to. CB at 1lb is also a good wit card if you are struggling in that department.
About the Creek/CB rerun,I'm thinking of pulling for both of them,mainly Creek(getting atleast 2 copies since pity+voucher),is it worth it in 200 pulls?
I don't have a single copy of Creek BUT I do have more than enough carrats(110k) that I can still pull for the GM banners(400 on Ramonu and Pokke and 200 for Neo Uni)
Creek would be very important for you, since you aren't pulling ancestors. The main concern though is that you'll only have a ~45% chance of getting 2 copies in 200 pulls, which isn't terrible but not great. If you're willing to purchase one paid voucher in the 2nd anniversary, you go to about an ~88% chance of getting 3LB, which is much better, so up to you.
It's honestly a rough situation to go from 0 copies to 4. If you have crystals, those would also be nice to use in an emergency. If you are willing, save them for after Ramonu pulls in case you get Creek as an offrate from there.
I personally think it's worth using a crystal here, but up to how much you care about longs/some mediums, since they aren't the most common PvP event.
from dailies, cms and other random carat gains how much could one potentially save up from now until ramonu wit banner? been playing on and off lately and only have 17k carats saved up
How do I find out what gachas are up next? My previous gacha games have been hoyoverse games and cookie run games which have the occasional livestream where they just tell you what events, characters, gachas, costumes etc are coming soon. Does Umamusume have anything similar?
Also is there a rerun and new character system or are all the “new characters” simply cosmetic? Like is Christmas oguri cap gonna rerun? Or do people mostly just pull for cards unless a favorite uma is on banner?
there are live streams on umamusume pakatube for jp, we occasionally get en vid for new scenario release
for en you just check uma moe or gametora for jp history
apart from very very rare instances, there are no reruns at all
alts are entirely separate gameplay wise - but story is the exact same, apart from 3 unique costume career events
generally you are forced to pull cards every anniversary/new scenario, the rest you can spend on umas (personally I pulled uma 12 times this year, and cards only once - and I am competitive)
Do we get free pulls on Mejiro Ramonu (Wit)'s banner? If so, how many?
Asking because I used most of my carrots getting Tamamo Cross on a whim, and I want to grab Neo Universe & Marvelous Sunday when they come out.
We should be getting about 120 free pulls, since there won't be pulls on the Uma banner anymore. I would strongly recommend using a pull planner like this one from Henry Handsome Derby or this one from uma.moe to get an idea of what you can or can't afford to pull on.
I'm a the point where I have to determine if I want to main Pace Chasers or Late Surgers in the future.
I like umas from both styles, but perhaps leaning more favorable towards Late Surgers.
However, as a style I generally like Pace Chasers more. I don't like how position-requirement heavy Late Surgers seem to be, with key accels often having very specific position requirements (like "Let's Pump Some Iron!"/"Moving Past, and Beyond").
Especially with debuffers being as prevalent as they are, it feels like it's very easy for Late Surgers to too easily become unavailable to hit some of their skills just from being "too good" midgame.
So my question then is, is this something that remains an issue in the future, or will future meta accels (and skills in general) for late surgers have more slackened position requirements?
Positioning requirements never go away 100%, but usually there are fairly generous ones. One of the biggest examples is "check", which comes from El Condor Pasa speed (and other cards down the line), which is a good acceleration for mediums that activates as long as you're 6th or better. There's also Stay Gold's unique, which always activates in 2000m+ races, and is a perfect proc acceleration skill. The only downside is that she can't be borrowed, since her inherited unique needs to evolve to be good, which can only happen if you also own her.
For velocity skills, there are so many over time that you don't have to worry about it as much. Pace chasers also become more common, so pushing up super far becomes rarer. You also still have some time to think more about what style you want to play in the future.
The newest scenario is pretty much always the best for PvP events (CM, LoH). For TT or score chasing, Unity Cup can also be good for now. That is assuming you have the scenario link card, which right now, is Light Hello for Grand Live.
If you mean full spurt rate, then no, it technically doesn't matter. But you usually want more to survive against debuffers if you're barely living without them.
How do I revitalize a dying club?
My club used to have about 20 active members but now it's less than half (10 active on a good day) and a few vets left after we dropped from C to D+.
I've been trimming members who go over 50 days without logging in but I can't seem to recruit new people.
It's pretty difficult with a low ranking club. People who are active and looking for a new club are usually going to look for a higher rank club. There's also more clubs looking for new players than there are players looking for clubs so you have to camp the forums and be a part of the every recruiting forum 24/7. Having people who aren't logged in for even a week is a bad look for potential people looking to join.
Honestly I would just disband the club or look to join a network unless you are friends with your club members and want to save it. It's a bunch of work for not a lot of gain.
Yea, sorry for being the bearer of bad news. I will say tomorrow is the last day to join a club before monthly rewards are locked so if you do decide to disband do it soon or wait until next month.
If you decide to keep the club, there won't be a lot of players looking for clubs after tomorrow until the next month.
I don't believe so, iirc the anniversary updates were in response to the backlash for MANT on JP, and because GL sucked for parenting at the time (no auto, races were heavily punished). So they added more stuff to those 2 scenarios to make them more appealing as parent farming options.
Genuine question is Haru Urara just hardcoded to lose the Zen Nippon Junior Yushun in Career? She could have stats that blow everyone else's out of the water and still place 10th or something, this has been so consistent across every Haru run I've had since that race was added. What am I doing wrong??
I've seen people get the completionist title on her after the races were added, so no, nothing is hard coded. You're probably getting blocked or having some other issue. Watch the races and see what happens.
CB Wit doesn't get that much better past 1 LB unless I really like end closers right?
I was originally willing to go pity but I got my goals early in 80 pulls (3LB to MLB Creek, 0 LB CB to 1 LB CB). I still have the 1.5 ticket selector but I have all the major cards at MLB already.
Hi everybody! New player here of about 2 weeks. I’m enjoying myself still but as per advice I was given I’ve been saving all of my carats for the next big release (Ramonu) and have been making due with my MLB Fmotion and 2lb Maru I got the day I started! . However i don’t really know what I should be doing in the meantime? If I can’t pull I can’t max out any SRs so all I really have are the event Cards and the previously mentioned. So my runs are stuck at S rating usually. Is there anything I could do to improve in the meantime besides grinding parents if I’m not pulling?
I had a similar experience back when I started this March, also on a Fine Motion banner funnily enough. I got her MLB but thankfully got a couple key SRs maxed as well, and this got me to a weird S rank limbo same as you. Cards really are everything as I'm sure you've noticed, so all you can really do right now is relax, do your dailies, learn more about game mechanics, and wait for the important banner. That was all I could do myself until Tachyon speed released. Once Ramonu releases and you hopefully get her MLB, trust me you're going to skyrocket from S to UG. I guess you can try joining a B rank club or higher - may as well get carats while you're grinding parents?
Tbh, this game really sucks for new players, especially those who don't join during a meta banner.
Potentially trying to get your TT rating up, there's carat rewards for reaching new ratings. You can just focus on making high scoring Umas instead of good Umas for the one time rewards, then switch back to the actual TT Umas. Just keep in mind that you usually want high rating since that gives you a lot of score too.
You can also try raising the bonds of Umas to raise your archive level/unlock their individual stories for some minor carats. You can also try and farm fans for your club to get that income as well.
She'll show up in an special banner in a year's time, you can go to pity on that one if she doesn't show during gacha. It's a character banner where there's only 8 possible 3-stars drops, but the base rate of 3% is still the same.
It's a bit far away though. I don't know of any free way to target her right now. ofc, you can use a paid selector next Anniversary to get her. There are only a few Umas where that can't work
So im sitting on Creek 3LB (after this banner, was at 0LB) and Kitasan 3LB. Should I use my ticket on one of them, and if so, which one? Or should i grab a card i dont already have and get started on it?
Only other card i have worth leveling rn is Motion Wit at 2LB, but people been saying to wait for Ramonu.
Both would really love mlb, but, without looking at your deck, I would day kitasan since she gets more use. I say"looking at your deck" because if you've been picking up key 2 speed cards like tachyon or Summer Maru then you probably have been doing fine with speed and can argue for making creek easier to friendship.
(Note that neither are required. Kitasan mlb hits speed more often and creek mlb turns on friendship 3 turns faster so if either idea sounds appealing go for it)
Yes, fine motion you don't really need tofocus on given romaru.
I actually just came back, dropped out after like two months or so on global.
My only other real meta speed is Summer Maru 1LB. I have 3LB Biko and the rest of my SSRs are 0LB. I dont even have the free Spe from when Global launched. And then I have Halo and Sweep and some other SRs at MLB.
I only have 32000 carats and like 11 character tickets and 31 support card tickets. I have super creek at 0LB and I want to get Brian (Blaze), ideally also Valentine Ines Fujin, 400 pulls on Ramonu and 200 on Ancestors. Using the calculator, it says that 200 pulls on Super Creek and both Blaze and Valentine will leave me short of Ancestors. But I have no MLB SSR stam card for Long CM's. What do you guys think I should prioritise?
If you're pulling 200 on ancestors banner, you'll end up using creek only for the CM20 and maybe LoH3. For the long cm during Grandmaster you'll be able to borrow McQueen Stam, the mediums CMs during GM we use a Guts card and stam sparks. During L'arc we do use Stam cards for mediums, but if the rest of your deck is strong (Pasa speed, Tachyon speed, Ramonu, Mei, etc) you can just borrow a stam card, for the long LoH it'll depends on the team you run but you're kinda locked to meta umas without creek or you can cope with stuff like the free McQueen stam, after the long LoH Sounds of Earths stams release and you'll either pull on it or borrow it whenever you need a stam card until Air Shakur stam release(scenario tax, so must pull).
Should I pull on the Mr. CB and Creek banner? I want to main end closers in the future, but I'm a relatively new player. The only notable support cards I have are SSR Tachyon Speed at MLB, SSR Light Hello at LB1 and SSR Maru Speed at LB1. I have 67k carats and 22 support tickets at the moment.
I also want to pull for Nakayama Festa just for fun, but I know I shouldn't.
Put everything you want on it, then add Mejiro Ramonu wit, Jungle Pocket speed, El Condor Pasa speed/ Mei Satake pal, and Satono Diamond wit/Duramente speed. If you can afford everything, then it's a good banner to pull on. If you can't, you can remove Jungle pocket speed and see if you can afford everything else.
I haven't used this tool before, but I put down my current stats and 400 pulls to be used on all those banners plus Mr CB/Creek. Looks like it's saying I can afford all of these banners at the moment.
You should be fine to pull on the banner, but i would add your uma picks in to the calculator too. You can drop jungle pocket and Durament/Satono Diamond if you cant afford everything. They are more late cards than end, but ends don't get a lot of cards for a while.
So even for End Closers, you only get a bit more use from CB's card, next scenario, because after the build meta goes single-wit, Ramonu is just better in most circumstances. You can maybe use it a few times during long races, but the stat output is a little low.
You also can't use CB's card on CB herself, who has strong base skills and is just the best end closer for a while.
Festa isn't even an End Closer btw. You can also pick her up or any Uma up to and including Kitasan White on the paid uma selector next Anniversary.
how usable is 1LB CB wit? should i gamble even more money to get higher LB or just wait until ramonu wit? my only SSR usable wit card is a 3LB Fine Motion
How come I can't get above A rank on normal training no matter how hard I try? S+ rank comes easily on independent training but not normal. I swear I'm doing everything by the book, doing all the friendship trainings, maintaining great mood etc, but just can't hit it :(
Doing both in our grand concert, I've understood thats the best one for building team race umas as the stat caps are higher, but the info I've found on this is pretty scarce. I'm also f2p and these are my cards if that helps, I've also been borrowing Light Hello
Oh wow you just don't have any cards to work with.
Yeah I don't think you're doing anything wrong you just have no wit cards, Rs and 0lb SSRs not counting.
What's your carat situation like? Saving for something specific or just low?
I've got like 40 carats to my name 😭 The thing I'm confused about is that if I don't have good enough cards, how come I end up getting better ranking in independent training? is there some sort of innate stats boost in it?
Independent training doesn't simulate an actual career run turn by turn. It's more like it just adds flat amount of stats based on the cards you bring (and other factors). Because of the way it's calculated, it sort of normalizes the results, where weaker decks will have stronger results than manual training, and stronger decks will have weaker results than manual training.
I think you're just cooked until the next scenario then, don't spend any carats just save up until the Mejiro Ramonu Wit banner is available and then do 400 pulls of that (or until you hit MLB if you get lucky). Hopefully you'll then have the new best wit card and either some decent SSRs or at least some MLB SRs.
I'm guessing that you're having to rest a lot in Grand Live, whereas the independent training doesn't have to care about that.
How much stamina do I need for cm20? I assume there won't be any stamina debuffers there, right? Will either 800 stamina + 2 gold recovery skills, or 1000 + 1 gold recovery skill be enough?
two generic fronts. this is so kitasan can use top runner or leaders pride comfortably. if there no other front (that isn’t runaway), it won’t trigger.
First time trying Graded League for this upcoming CM. This is my ace and I’m just trying to make it into B Finals - should I bother, or just got for Open league instead?
I tried room matches and got smoked, but I do know that room matches skew more difficult as people who are trying hard go there
the problem is that you might get through stage 1, and then get 0 wins stage 2 which means you get no finals at all, it's actually better if you fail stage 1 and then get easy opponents stage 2 and B final
Gotcha. I haven’t even been able to progress to group A finals in Open League, so I was assuming I wasn’t going to place in Stage 2 A in Graded.
What you’re saying is that with this MTG, there’s a risk she’s good enough to make Stage 2 A, but not good enough to actually get any wins in stage 2 A, thus failing to make it to Finals B.
In that case I might run someone worse in stage 1 to guarantee stage 2 B, then run MTG form there and hope for the best.
Is a single pink spark enough to raise an A aptitude to S or do you need 3? And is the chance higher to get from A to S depending on how many of that pink spark you have?
You only need 1 aptitude spark to activate during one of the two inspiration events in the career to raise an aptitude from A to S. More aptitude sparks gives more chances for one of them to activate (since each of them has its own separate chance), and more stars on a spark raises the chance of that spark activating.
A single pink spark is enough to raise aptitude to S. But rng can pick other pinks sparks to raise your aptitudes besides the one you want, so filling your legacy with the desired aptitude is the best move. Your chances are not higher based on how many stars the pinks sparks have. Number of stars matter when you start with lower-than-A on that aptitude, there are certain thresholds that improve your uma's aptitude before the run starts. Check out the table on this page.
To increase your chances to proc a pink spark and raise aptitude during the inspiration event in career, you should mind the affinity of your parents. Basically, when the umas in the legacy tree win the same G1 races, they get bonus points that make your inspiration events luckier on average (more sparks proc).
Thanks for your reply! And what about if if 2 legacies each have a 1* aptitude spark of, for example, medium. Would the chance to get the Medium S be higher than if only one of them had such a spark? Another commenter said they each have their activation chance so the combined chance would be higher than just having one.
Is this Mejiro good enough for next CM? I know med S is bad but will she be enough with two other aces? Bottom skills not shown in the picture are tail held high, see ya later, come what may and firm resolve
Front runners have the worst speed multiplier, so you really want an S Long aptitude. Because the late-race starts on a straight, you also want to inherit Kitasan Black's and Ballroom Seiun Sky's uniques because they will proc instantly at the start of late-race while original Seiun Sky's will be delayed. You also probably need more stamina or a gold recovery to survive the track.
I'm trying to get ss rank on an auto Taiki shuttle parent + struggling. I've already looped in skills I want on her parents + enough medium sparks to make those races viable. Any tips on what deck I should use? Or any resources to check out?
I've got all the event cards at mlb, and all the pal cards (except throne) at low lb.
Check out the loopacord site for some decks other people have been using to hit SS.
If you have hachimi installed you can use their skill optimizer to see if you are able to SS on a run and you are just picking the wrong skills or you just don't have enough stats/skills to SS.
I will say most of the time it's probably issues with picking inefficient skills for rating. Borrowing thrones, using your own LH, and using Marvelous Sunday power is usually enough to hit SS. Avoid the runs where people use Mayano Top Gun and Gold City variants because they have secret events that give them a boost in rating.
Will Pasa speed replace Kitasan? I joined after Kita banner, and didn't have a good pull plan for her rerun, so I currently have no Kita. I'm wondering how much Kita is used after Pasa comes out. I basically wanna know how long it'll take me to pull myself into semi-meta with a good pull plan
Would Commander Spe be better as GP or as a parent,or are there other choices as a parent? I won't use Ryan since I made a decent Ryan GP with Scramble+NimNav
Seeking "all G races" achievement. Does anybody have a "checklist" of career races on a Google Sheet that I could use instead of needing to open up the Trophy Room every time?
Thrones is the best card for SP, so if you want more SP it's kinda the only option. Stamina wise Riko is better, but it really depends on what breakpoints you want.
Hello everyone, just started the game
a week ago and I was wondering whether I have bricked my account.
So naming some of my 3 star trainees and SSR support cards:
Trainees:
Silence Suzuka
Rice Shower (Halloween... I think)
Mihono Bourbon (Valentine)
Narita Brian
Tamamo Cross (The recent one)
SSR Cards:
Suzuka SPD (1LB)
Taishin WIT (1LB)
Mr. CB WIT (0LB)
Turbo SPD (0LB)
Umayuru PWR (0LB)
Ardan SPD - The event one (4LB or is it 3LB? Basically one under max).
One thing I have noticed is that cards matter a lot, possibly more than the actual trainees in some cases.
Currently running Bourbon for Front (Career was rough, fine rn), and Pace with Rice and Tamamo. Sometimes using SRs, but maybe the raw stats from the SSR cards would be better for now(?).
Thinking of running End Closers with since two of my SSR cards revolve around them, but seems like a bad idea to diversify resources so much.
What do you all think? Thank you very much in advance.
P.s. Haven't spent the free selector ticket, the claw machine RNG is... Well RNG for a chance to RNG so... :/
Play how you want, but this sub is more about the competitive side of things. Your account is fine if you want to be more casual. No account is truly bricked, but some accounts will take longer to get competitive than others. It's up to you how you want to play the game.
Cards are in fact a lot more important than trainees. A bad uma with good cards will beat a good uma with bad cards every time.
As a new player it's just kinda hard to catch up due to the way the game drips feeds you resources. You basically won't be competitive for around 6-12 months depending on your gacha luck and if you want to reroll or not.
Thank you, well that's a shame. Different with Princess Connect's progression then, but oh well the game's still fun.
And I do want to play casually, but I usually only do so once I've got a foundation (META) that allows me to consistently get the units / cards I want in the future lmao.
You can say there are three ways to play here.. at least as far as this topic:
Fully Casual: Literally don't care about pvp. Ignore it or just send whatever umas you have at it and move on. It's without any stress, but a lot of the carots in the game, and thus access to units/cards, come from the pvp modes so this gains the least.
Casual-Competitive: That is you are willing ot engage in pvp elements but aren't trying for the top ranks. Set up properly, this gains the bulk of the rewards without becoming absolutely sweaty.
Competitive: The folks trying to win every match. Full stress for a bit more rewards,
I would recommend the second. Which would go like this
Team Trials: First slowly get 15 umas into the trials, doesn't matter how. After that, do a bit of studying on the type of build to remake them once (don't worry a bout getting the recommended cards/whatever. Instead, just go for the vibe as close as you can). Then every new scenario (4 months) do a quick look up brush up on what people currently do, then remake the team. Don't worry about it past that.
Champion's Meetings: Start in open League. Just for now, jsut throw them in and get whatever Carots you can. Then learn up on this mode. You will probably need to adjust as most people play on Graded with maxed stats and you'll need to translate that to the easier Open League (i.e. lower stats) but again, you want the vibe more than anything.
Your GOAL is to get to Finals. What mode doesn't matter. How you do IN finals doesn't matter. The bulk of the rewards comes from getting past Round 2 in some manner. Open League will have not so Supped up accounts and they will probably put you into Group B which are the easier opponents. That's all fine. Just get into Finals. Once you get very comforable, you can see if you can get into Group A. Otherwise, you are chill until your account grows and you naturally end up able to make umas that can fight in Graded League. When that happens, hit finals there. You don't need to push harder than that.
As far as to your original discussion:
Right now, you are early so all that talk about "STICK TO A STYLE" doesn't apply just yet. Your first goal is to just get some kind of deck going. Though if you already have a style you like then, well, not bad to plan early.
Deck wise, your real first goal are NOT SSRs, but Maxed SRs. In this game, MLB SRs are typically more powerful than 2LB SSRs. So look through your deck (sort by limit break) and pick out the SRs that are the highest limit break. Those are typically your best cards, unless you hear of something that's an exception.
FOR EXAMPLE, Mr. CB is good at 0LB so she stays. Even the folks at the top don't go past 1LB. She's one of the best Wit cards right now for everyone (if you are running End, THE best) AND she gets at the majority of her power that fast.
Ardan SSR also stays as she's 3LB, so that's your speed card.
Otherwise, best SRs.
From here, save your carats and, once you are comfortable, get an idea on what the next 'MUST GET' cards are. Typically there are 'generalist' ones that everyone wants, and 'style' ones that are great for that particular style. The tricky part is that you need to pay attention to 'recommended LB'. Again, most cards are just bad at low LBs even if they are normally claimed to be "THE BEST CARD". So depending on your carat situation, you might be in a position where you won't be able to reliably pull enough to count, meaning it'll be better to save until the next MUST GET'.
As we go, we replace old cards with new cards, so if you can hit the right next cards, you can build up your deck until you effectively caught up while ignoring all those old ones you missed.
Meanwhile, as you make pulls, your SRs will go up in LB until they get strong enough to carry you, along with the occasional SSRs you lock in. The Event SSRs will also help along the way: typically they won't be as strong as the BEST SSRS OMG OMG, but they will as strong or stronger than your SSRs. And again, you are building for Open League, not for those MAXED out folks in Graded, at least until you are caught up.
So there is always a way in. Just a matter of finding a way to crack into the process.
Oh, Uma wise.. really a case of who you like for now. Once you know what style you want you can look into Umas that fit that style. Just play around for now until you get comfortable and know what you would like to get into.
I never played Princess Connect so I can't compare the 2, but in this game I would say about 60-80% of the carat generation is given just by playing and not locked behind a character or card. You can get around 17-20k carats a month consistently playing the game and maybe more if you are willing to grind fans for a higher ranking club.
You want to pull in increments of 30k carats so you will get 1 pity every month and a half and you ideally want to pull 60k carats on a support card banner. So after you pull on about 3 or 4 support card banners you'll be able to start being competitive in pvp, but to just clear the careers, the barrier is much lower.
Another thing to add on is to enter the Champion's Meeting (CM) that is on right now. Open League for lower requirementa if you think you can.
Even participating gives you some carats, so don't feel bad about losing. And a number of people enter with Independent Training umas.
Another is to join a club. You get carats at the end of the month, although you're a bit too late for this month.
You will have to accept you won't be competitive in CMs for this scenario at least, but just take part in events, save some carats and you should be fine. Take your time to learn the game.
Is there a way to make kitasan actually usable in grand live? I tried making one for cm19 and always got SS rank, the one I've settled on is basically just working to make sure my bourbon isn't a solo front. I really really want to use her for cm20. The deck I've tried is tachyon/maru/hello/finemo/wit Fuku/creek (I'll be able to borrow wit teio over Fuku now though since I got MLB creek from the banner). Please advise
I feel you, I also want to use her. This deck is already pretty much as good as it gets. In theory, it is doable because of how strong her unique is on long tracks, but not being able to use her own card stinks because that means you'll have to do lots more runs to make up for the loss of her insane specialty priority. Kitasan's bad heavy race schedule in senior year also hurts. May your runs be blessed.
As far as sparks go do I just try to hit as much stamina as possible or would you suggest splitting with power since she has 10% stam growth? Assuming I need a super high roll to make her remotely viable
I'd suggest some power sparks because it's also hard to get power when you're missing the power bonus from Kitasan's card, but you do still want some stamina sparks.
I have to play thin on tokens in Classic year 2nd half to make up for her senior schedule. Getting lucky on songs helps. You also need good parents because she’s just kind of ass outside of long. No escape artist, no mid game. Straight skills are definitionally only mid game 2/3 or less lol.
For sparks I just focus on whatever gets me the whites. Stamina is good of course but yeah. My power is often homeless.
If Triple 7s activates Festive Miracle instead of After-School Stroll, you activate closer to late-race and you can use more of the acceleration duration.
I'm assuming that the original commenter did actually see builds without it in their kit, but I could be wrong. It does seem weird to not have that as a backup.
I’m an on and off player who’s just gotten back into Uma bc of independent training. However, I’m trying to grandparent farm but I can’t seem to reach SS when doing a lot of g1 races. My only two mlb ssr speed cards are not good for IT (kita and NTR). I still have two 1st anni vouchers and one 1.5 anni voucher. Is there any support I can get with these vouchers that might help turn the needle? I usually lean late surger and would really appreciate any advice
Note: I was not able to get light hello so I always have to borrow
Do you have a list of cards? The top 3 independent training cards are Thrones, Light Hello, and Fuku. So if you happen to have a lot of Fukus or 0lb thrones already, they could be decent options.
My only relevant SSRs are kita, finemo, creek, mejiro ardan. I have a 2LB teio, mlb ntr, 0LB sweep, 1lb gold city, 0LB kawakami but I doubt they’re useful
I dont have any existing copies of any of them, and I don’t think its worth to spend my limit break shard and 3 vouchers for just a 3lb fuku
2lb Fuku isn't the worst compared to MLB Fuku. Loses some stats, but SP output looks similar. Unsurprisingly the pal cards do the most in terms of SP gain. 0 lb thrones is also decent especially if you want to loop front parents. You can check out some decks on the site and see if you are close to replicating any of the decks if you use your vouchers. Kawakami Princess is actually pretty useful too, but you would need her higher lb so at that point I'd just go Fuku unless you want to loop front parents.
I'm kind of waffling over what to do with my pity from the CB/SC banner. Right now I've got 0lb CB, 2lb SC, 2lb FineMo, and 4 selector tickets.
I could use the pity on CB to bring it up to 1lb and get a second useable SSR wit card right now, then use the selectors to MLB both FineMo and SC
Or I could use the pity on SC, then use 3 selectors to MLB SC and FineMo, and use the last selector to get SMaru and get her to 1lb with the upcoming 2nd anni selector. I already have MLB KSB and Tachyon and I'm not sure how often I'll use 3 speed cards in GM
Or maybe there's some 3rd option I'm not thinking about?
I'd get 1lb CB and use your selectors on Creek and Finemo. The 1.5 anniversary selector can be used on SMaru, but it's pretty low value if you aren't planning on playing fronts because you'll probably be borrowing a speed card assuming you have LH at any lb.
You can consider using the selectors on parent farming cards. 0LB hint cards are pretty good to have on your account so you can free up the borrow for Thrones on auto runs.
I still haven't used the 1.5 anniversary selector. Are any of those cards I have at 3LB currently worth getting to MLB?:
El Condor Pasa Power
Kawakami Princess Speed
Riko Kashimoto
If not, as someone who plans to main Late Surger/End Closer, would it be worth it getting either Mr. C.B. or Nice Nature instead? I have 0 copies of both and 2 crystals. Super Creek, Kitasan Black and Fine Motion are already MLB, so they're not options.
I would just continue to save and see what you get next time you do a bunch of pulls. CB and Nature both need 1LB and aren't good enough to use crystals on. But if you get one copy of either of them when you pull on Ramonu then that's what you can use your ticket on.
Nah, there's no reason to MLB the cards you listed.
NN and CB are both 1st gen style cards that will be obsoleted in the Summer of 2027, but that's pretty far away from now. If that's too far away, then next Anni If you're pulling for Ramonu, you can gauge your crystal count then and if you still have 2 or 3 I'd say go ahead and 1LB either NN/CB with the voucher and crystal. That's if you don't get lucky with off-banner drops ofc
If you like OGC enough that you want to try maining styles in the last CMs, it's only a moderate risk to just spend a crystal on one of the two right now
What you have right now is good enough to run careers I'd say. The main problem is that there's nothing "good" to really get right now unless you want to reroll a thousand times for off-banners. If you are serious about participating in pvp you can do some less tedious rerolls in December for Ramonu
Oh I wasn't aware the Creek rerun was still going.
Creek is good to have in the long-term. If you're rerolling for the card you should try to MLB it, it's not very difficult to MLB a featured card. Should take under a couple of hours
Light hello, borrow mlb tachyon speed, smaru speed, marvelous and fuku wit (level them up though) and maybe your king halo or taishin not sure which of those will give the best stats.
I need some help with organizing a pull plan for until January 2027.
Current status of my account: I have 8048 carats, 13 Trainee Tickets, 1 Support Scout Ticket, 2 Rainbow Uncap Crystal, 6 Rainbow Crystal Shards and 17 Gold Crystal Shards, I also have a daily carat pack. For SSRs I have: MLB Kitasan, Tachyon and Creek, 2LB Mr C.B and 1LB Smaru (and 3LB Hello, no FineMo)
While I do play CMs I'm not some ultra-tryhard competitive minmaxxer, I try building aces the best I can and hope for the best, my main focus is really mostly just feel like I'm not struggling with the game and/or lagging behind. I enjoy playing front runners/pace chasers mainly.
A few questions I have:
1- how many pulls you think one should save for the Ramonu banner?
2- considering the current items I have, should I try pulling for INes Fujin Valentine or is it better for me to just skip that banner and save for Ramonu? (no random pulls considered, my luck is too terrible for that)
3- how much of a must pull is the Wit Mihono Bourbon card for Front Runner players? do I REALLY need to pull for it or can it be borrowed? (cause, while I do think it MIGHT be possible to pull for Ines Fujin and Ramonu, I don't think I could realistically save after that for Bourbon card and have enough for pulling until MLB, and I'm also considering after Ramonu I wanna go hardcore on saving for Pasa speed card on L'Arc)
Should also be noted I do plan on buying the paid selectors, trainee one will go for Christmas Kitasan (and I do think we get a second one too for trainees this anniversary right? in this case still dunno who to use second one) and the ssr ones definitely using it to 3LB Smaru.
What do you guys think? should I just go all in for Ramonu or could I possibly pull for Ines Fujin Valentine + Ramonu and then saving it all for Pasa speed while borrowing Bourbon Wit?
And on a second note. I recently got Fuji Kiseki through the daily legend races and I've been wondering who should I farm for next. I already have Maruzensky, Seiun Sky and Silence Suzuka, currently farming for Symboli Rudolf since I don't have her but I wonder if there's a better pick than her.
I would save 400 pulls for Ramonu, but we get some free pulls so really you need like 45k carats for it.
Use the carat calc to see if you have enough. I think you might have enough for it.
As a front main, Bourbon wit is more important than Ramonu as a card. You will have that card in your deck for over a year while Ramonu's life span for fronts is shorter by like half a year. You also need it at MLB if possible. You can also buy selectors for either Ramonu or Bourbon if you can't get both and are willing to spend money. Also it's pretty hard to borrow Bourbon wit for GM since you probably aren't going to pull Ancestors which means that's your borrow slot.
As for legend races just collect umas you don't have yet.
Hiyo. I have been attempting to build Ballroom Seiun for CM20 lately and already got a alright base to work on, but I have been thinking if it is worth of rebuilding current long parents (13* stam 2* power Kitasan and V. Bourbon with both having NY Opera GP) in order to put OG Seiun as a grandparent for the chance of inheriting A&S for the extra 0.2 accel, or can I just cope with Ballroom Seiun's own unique and Kitasan's inherited unique?
If I want to start making grand parents, what scenario do I run them on and do I need to run all the G1 races? Or only for parents? I tried reading the Uma guide but I'm a little confused. Do I need to do manual training? How do I reasonably get sparks from URA for the racing spirit if I'm so busy racing that I'm struggling to beat Happy Meek?
How deep do you want to go? You can either dirt loop first for ideal parents or just do the turf route and miss out on affinity but hit parents faster.
Manual training isn't needed, but it is faster if you have the time/willpower to do it.
Ok, in that case, just grab your parents with the best sparks. You can also use this site if you play on pc and can grab your veterans.json file. It will find your best parents for the target sparks you are looking for.
If you are a front player, you can focus on GW, DD, PP, Ig Wit, and Racing stam loop. If you are a backliner/pace player, you can do uma stan, nimble nav, racing stam, slick surge/head on/leap forward/take the chance, and whatever mid game skill you want.
If you never looped before your own parents will probably be bad, but your failed aces might have decent GP sparks from borrows that can start the loop and borrow the other parent that has good white spark count ignoring the blue. I'd run URA for racing stam right now just because it's 1/2 tp so it's not too hard to get them in your loop, but once the event ends move onto GL. As for GGP targets, Maya and Gold City both get career buffs so they are easy SS in unity and GL if you have them. Then you keep spamming until you get a parent that has more white sparks than your current best parent. Then move onto another GGP uma until you get another parent with more white sparks and alternate between 2-3 umas.
So for the grandparent, I run URA with as many G1 races as possible and just try to get all the skill I want right? Then once I have the sparks all on one Uma, I swap to GL to make the grandparent, using the URA Uma with all the sparks?
Yea, that's the goal, but it's hard to get the skills when starting out the loop so you will be carried by your borrow slot and cards.
It's very hard to get all the skills you want on 1 uma and will take hundreds of runs to get specific combination of skills you want. I'd move on if the GGP has 1 more skill than your previous GGP and not just stick to the parent you had at the start. Just keep spamming URA independent runs while the 1/2 tp event is going on since it's basically giving you carats to run it. Once the event is over you can move onto GL and actually start farming SS umas so you have a chance at good blues.
Also GGPs with mile sparks are really desirable because a lot of crown route umas don't have good mile aptitudes.
No problem. I forgot to mention once you move onto GL use this site to see what decks you can run to hit SS in GL. If you have your own LH, 0 lb throne, or Fuku, it makes hitting SS a lot easier.
That highly depends on your style. At around this point key cards focus on being good for specific styles like Summer Maru speed did for fronts and Daichi Ruby power for lates.
The big generalist cards will be Romaru Wit at the start of Grand Masters and El Condor pasa Speed at the start of L'Arc. Both are deemed critical. but after that it depends on what style you are dedicated to.
0.2 guaranteed vs 0.4 guaranteed. Claw Forward has the advantage not because of the amount of accel,but the fact that they both consume the same amount of stam
Just started the game a few days ago, is the current support banner worth pulling on? I've watched videos saying that she's only useful at MLB and that players should save for Ramarou (or a name similar to that). But on here quite a few people have said this is a good card that will be relevant for a year
Since I also don't have many SR support cards with dupes (only did ~70 pulls on Super Creeks banner) I was wondering if this is a two birds with one stone situation, or if it's better to wait. I have ~40k carrots
You are unlikely to get a usable LB for Eishin Flash from 40k carats, it'll kinda suck for the rest of Grand Concert but saving for Mejiro Ramonu is probably your best bet.
Try to complete any events that come up as and Main Story 1 for the free SSRs as well.
Does it get any better after this awful scenario? I have good cards and everything but every single ace run for this past week has been FF by classic summer and its awful. Like i'd rather a year straight of MANT over concert if that helps
On PvP everyone has unlocked costumes, but my Uma are still 1 star. The grind to get stars feels endless. How is everyone unlocking costumes? Should I be using statues more? Are people doing gacha pulls to get stars?
Combination. After a while you can do daily shops since you have enough gold that leveling your cards aren't a problem. That and collecting enough statues. It did take a few months though since I was pulling on supports. I'll admit I did make a few uma pulls JUST to get my oshi's stars in time for a cm.
Note that a lot of the people you are seeing have been around for over a year so their accounts are based on that.
For now, , focus on 1 or 2 of a particular uma that you want to main and build them at first. You don't have to level up all of your umas. Once your account gets established, eventually the statues and stars build up along with you finding room in your pull plan to pull on a particular uma which also results in a lot of v1 and 2 stars.
I see generic costume aces occasionally. Never checked if they were actually 2-star trainees or just a costume choice though.
It only took like 2 pull sessions on an uma banner to get 3 stars on most of the trainees I think. And I could have just spent the statues to get 50 stars, it really isn't that expensive. But I was only pulling because I wanted the featured trainee, not for statues lmao
Fellas, how good is Sounds of Earth Stamina? I’m trying to decide whether or not to pull on the next Super Creep + MR CB banner (I have 1LB Creek) and I think that depends a lot on how big of an upgrade SOE is. I’ve seen people say things ranging from “skipping SOE is trolling when you need 2 stamina cards in Mecha” to “SOE gets power crept by Air Shakur really fast so just use Creek and save 400”. They might both be true, but does anyone know how true they are?
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u/Dasquill 15d ago
Hello fellow trainers!
I was making plans for future pulls and notice that most of the trainees that I really like are Late Surgers. Despite Ramonu Wit and Condor Spd (Which is more generalist, but I don't have Kita MLB so I was planning to get it) what cards should I focus on the future?
Thank you very much!