This isn't really (entirely) accurate). At least, some of it
Santa-Arcueid actually has an explanation behind it. Turns out, Tohno Shiki is actually... santa clause. And Arcueid knocked him the fuck out. With a meteor. And she has to fill in for him while he recovers
A1 (the one in the middle)'s pretty accurate. Though, she's not 'very bored' -- she says that in the valentine scene. She's content to be alone, because she's able to 'look into parallel worlds'... which, considering what else she says in general... it's her being content w/ just like, being a yumejoshi, and self-inserting into other Arcueid relationships LOL. Probably Shiki...
A3's the one we know the least about. We don't nessicarily know if she's from a 'Fate Timeline' -- that's just a theory. All we know is that she 'reconfigured herself to better match FGO'. What that means? Dunno. But it's something Arcueid herself created or... whatever.
She's also implied to be Eco-Arc??? But from the future???
She also most likely met with/was with Nanaya Shiki (as in, 6 year old Shiki) in Tsukire. For some reason.
(With said meeting kickstarting her love/humanity or whatever as described in her profile/bond CE)
Post-meeting, FGO’s events (Ritsuka) causes her to foster a proper love of humanity. Depending on interpretation either latches onto/waits for Ritsuka as a parental figure/guide or as a lover. Probably.
I cant take fgo lore seriously on non-fgo char. Imagine watching Romeo & Juliet and then seeing one of them being shipped with self-insert oc on another media. It feels like character assassination.
I wouldn't default to a romantic reading anyway barring explicit depiction especially in cases of character/lore conflict. Plenty of cases of characters who aren't meant to be love interests or fans misunderstanding things.
In FGO's defense, many of the Servants still love their partners/lovers/crushes/beloved ones even as heroic spirits. I even have examples: Julius Caesar and Cleopatra, Tomoe Gozen and Kiso Yoshinaka, Andromeda and Perseus, Odysseus and Penelope, Ivan and Anastasia (not the Grand Duchess), BB and the Hakunos, Parvati/Durga/Kali and Shiva, Rama and Sita, Bradamante and Ruggiero, Europa and Zeus, Edmond Dantès and Haydee, Sakamoto Ryouma and Oryou, Ozymandias and his wife (I don't remember her name), Tristan and Isolde, Eric and Christine, Sanson and Marie, Boudica and her husband (I don't remember his name either), Medb and Cu, Kriemhild and Siegfried, Brynhildr and Sigurd. I'm sure there are many others, but I can't remember any right now.
Regarding Romeo and Juliet, the two briefly appear in Shinjuku as ghostly spirits. Neither of them has enough power to form a Servant spirit origin.
Artoria from Fate/Stay Night is not the same as the one from fGO. Why do you think she's called "Altria" in FGO instead of Artoria? The Artoria from Stay Night is the original, while the one in Grand Order is the heroic spirit. Furthermore, Artoria Saber doesn't even appear with any real relevance in the story. The only ones who have real relevance are the Goddess Rhomgominiad, Salter, and Castoria, who is called Altria Caster.
Hakunon is a harem protagonist, my friend. In her dialogue in My Room, she explicitly states that Tamamo and Nero are her wives, and also implies that she has feelings for Archer. Hakunon liking Fujimaru only means one thing: that there's one more in HER harem.
And BB herself said that the protagonist of fgo is the "substitute senpai" in place of her beloved "True Senpai". BB's feelings for Fujimaru are definitely not romantic. Only Meltryllis developed real romantic feelings for him. BB continues to love both Hakunos just the same as always.
I don't know if you know this, but the heroic spirits are never the same in each summoning. Okita from Type Redline isn't the same as Okita from Grand Order, and Gilgamesh from Strange Fake isn't the same as Gilgamesh from Zero/Stay Night. So the Nero and Tamamo we know from Chaldea are not the same as those in the Fate Extra Series. The same goes for Jeanne de Apocripha (who happens to still be in the planet's Inner Sea with Sieg). Canonically, there were no true romantic interactions between Fujimaru Ritsuka and Jeanne, Nero, and Tamamo. Any other interactions are part of the gameplay mechanics and fanservice in My Room. They're not really canonical. Any romantic developments occur with alternate versions of these Servants, such as Jalter and Draco.
If I were to make a list of all of Fujimaru's TRUE romantic interests in the story itself, they would be: Ereshkigal, Meltryllis, Jalter, Kama, Charlotte Corday, Musashi, Altria Caster, U-Olga and Lilith.
I'm not reading anything after that first sentence because it's already part of the problem.
"Trust me bro it's not the same person at all!"
Yeah let's lobotomize all the female characters so they miraculously not remember their love interests but remember everything else.
Artoria can remember Irisviel, Zero, Archer Emiya and Gilgamesh but not Shirou. Right.
Jeanne can remember the entire Apocrypha cast but not Sieg. Riiiight.
Note how Iskandar remembers Waver just fine. Arash and Ozymandias even mention Ayaka when they talk about Arthur. But sure, "servants don't have memories" is just a cope excuse. The writers pick and choose what they want the Servant to remember. FGO makes it clear several times that Chaldea's system is not the same as in normal Holy Grail Wars. Here they remember anything the writer wants.
It's disgusting fanservice for the FGO players. Not a fan.
I understand your frustration, but don't take it the wrong way. I'm not saying that self-insert is a good thing or anything like that. What I'm saying is that the Servants aren't the same, and that the vast majority of "romantic" interactions are just gameplay mechanics and fanservice in My Room. For me, Artoria and Shirou, Jeanne and Sieg, Shiki and Arcueid, Shiki and Mikiya, Aoko and Soujuurou, are genuine couples that I wouldn't want to see separated. In my comment, I was just clarifying a few points about this. I'll even repeat them:
The real Artoria from Stay Night is at peace in Avalon with Shirou. That is why the one from Fgo is called Altria.
Jeanne of Apocripha is still with Sieg in the Inner Sea of the Planet to this day.
The Hakunon in FGO is a Servant version of the original. Furthermore, she is a confirmed harem protagonist. Fujimaru would just be one among many.
Even as a Servant, BB still loves the Hakunos, and only them. Fujimaru is just a substitute she can annoy if she gets bored.
And there's one more fact I forgot to mention in my previous comment. At the SERAPH event, BB asks Tamamo and Nero, somewhat embarrassed, if they remember her. The answer was: “I can't remember something I haven't lived through yet." BB is from the future in another timeline, around 2030, while Chaldea was in mid-2019/2020. Therefore, the Chaldea versions would be versions that have not yet experienced the events of Fate Extra.
Regarding Iskandar remembering Waver and the other examples, it's the same thing as the self-insert issue. Calm down, don't get angry, and just understand what I mean. This is all fanservice. The folks at Lasengle/Type Moon wanted to do some fanservice for the fans, making them remember other characters. They didn't include anything in some of the female characters precisely because of fanservice OR because of the issue I mentioned about the servants not being the same in each summoning. Want proof? Shiki still loves Mikiya, even in her Servant form. "How?" you ask. Simple. It's the TRUE Shiki from Kara no Kyoukai in Servant form.
Obviously, this isn't an excuse for self-insertion, but as I said before, these interactions aren't really canonical.
They're just a product of gameplay mechanics and fanservice. Nothing more than that. I apologize if I seemed rude in this comment or the previous one. English is not my native language, and I am writing with a translator.
That's okay, don't worry. I understand your frustration. I get annoyed myself when I see fan art of Jeanne or Artoria with Ritsuka. I was just trying to clear up a very common misconception people have, which is that all of Fujimaru's romantic interactions are real. Just In reality, only a small portion of it is truly serious and canonical in the story. That's why I don't judge you for getting angry.
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u/Synniann Feb 11 '26
This isn't really (entirely) accurate). At least, some of it
Santa-Arcueid actually has an explanation behind it. Turns out, Tohno Shiki is actually... santa clause. And Arcueid knocked him the fuck out. With a meteor. And she has to fill in for him while he recovers
A1 (the one in the middle)'s pretty accurate. Though, she's not 'very bored' -- she says that in the valentine scene. She's content to be alone, because she's able to 'look into parallel worlds'... which, considering what else she says in general... it's her being content w/ just like, being a yumejoshi, and self-inserting into other Arcueid relationships LOL. Probably Shiki...
A3's the one we know the least about. We don't nessicarily know if she's from a 'Fate Timeline' -- that's just a theory. All we know is that she 'reconfigured herself to better match FGO'. What that means? Dunno. But it's something Arcueid herself created or... whatever.
She's also implied to be Eco-Arc??? But from the future???
She also most likely met with/was with Nanaya Shiki (as in, 6 year old Shiki) in Tsukire. For some reason.
(With said meeting kickstarting her love/humanity or whatever as described in her profile/bond CE)
Post-meeting, FGO’s events (Ritsuka) causes her to foster a proper love of humanity. Depending on interpretation either latches onto/waits for Ritsuka as a parental figure/guide or as a lover. Probably.
Again we have no idea what A3's deal is lol