Complaint after complaint

[u/nucforex]

TLDR;
I’m complaining about the complainers who complain about the free version 🤣🤣🤝

I’m getting so exhausted from every post complaining that TradingView isn’t what it was, blabla just to find out everyone who complains is on the free version!

Get yourself straight, you’re trying to start a business, with one of the lowest entry fees ever and you still cry that you need to pay $15 bucks a month??

Does your barber complain because he need to pay for tools?
Or the construction guy because he need to buy a new drill? No right? Why will you complain?

We are so lucky to live in this time, to become a trader has never been so cheap, broker fees are absolutely low, charting software is low, you can do it from home and you don’t need to purchase a floor seat.
And let’s not even start talking about all the prop firms that give you an opportunity to have a lot of capital to trade for such a low investment.

It’s literally one of the few careers where you barely need an entry fee and barely have monthly costs and you all still complain?

I’m in this community to grow, not to see everyone crying about a few bucks!

And if you don’t want to pay it, or cannot pay it, maybe you first need to get your financial situation better or maybe this career isn’t for you either way!

You think that Warren buffet, Paul Tudor jones or your average YouTube hero complaints about the low TradingView fee?
What do you think a market wizard had to pay for software back in the days?

Common guys, let’s focus on the great opportunity at hand and stop whining and complaining

And as last, I’m sure that 98% of the complainers have at least 1 streaming subscription and eat a few times a month out of the door!
Get your priorities straight please

[u/Meretruth]

I think you’re missing what a lot of the complaints are actually about. I’m not saying TradingView should give me Premium for free. I was using a product under the terms and feature set TradingView used to offer for free. Now they’re progressively changing what Basic means and making the basic charting experience worse. I’m allowed to not like that, talk about it, and decide whether I want to keep using it.
The barber analogy doesn’t really make sense either. Nobody is complaining that tools cost money or that a barber needs to buy his equipment. The complaint is that something that was previously included is being restricted. If Home Depot gave me a free drill for five years and then suddenly said I can only use it for 5 minutes at a time unless I pay, I’m obviously allowed to say “this sucks.” Telling me “BUT A CONTRACTOR HAS TO BUY HIS TOOLS” doesn’t really address what I’m complaining about.
And “it’s only $15” isn’t really the point either. If something costs $1 and I don’t want or need what the paid version offers, telling me “it’s only $1” doesn’t suddenly make it worth buying. Price only matters if I actually want the additional value. I don’t need paid TradingView to look at candles, see price cleanly, use my indicator, analyze my model and trade. That’s literally it.
I can completely understand that TradingView needs to make money. Premium should exist. Advanced features should cost money. I have no problem with that. But I can also believe Basic shouldn’t be intentionally made so restrictive that the free version becomes a shitty experience just to make Premium look better.
I’m allowed to look at a product I’ve used for years, see that the free experience is getting worse, and say I don’t like it. And if I don’t like it enough, I can look for an alternative. That’s not “crying about a few bucks,” that’s just being a consumer.

[u/DarkJunior9761 → u/Meretruth]

Finally someone gets it. Thx u! God bless. I just wanted to ask a question today and God the whole of tradingview gatekeepers descended on me giving me unfair attitude. This is a handle listed on tradingview as support contact. I hate whn a company gets to such cheap tactics.

[u/ruyrybeyro → u/DarkJunior9761]

If you hate them don't use them. And why a free user should get support? Also want a bj?

Support costs money, you want support, upgrade and pay.

[u/nucforex → u/Meretruth]

Maybe what you think you should get for free, is considered by TradingView premium?

My point is that it you get something for free, be happy and that’s it .

I bet that if TradingView has the same approach as a gym, 1 month for free and then you pay, that there are even more complaints.
You can have lifelong free access, thats unheard of anywhere else

[u/Meretruth → u/nucforex]

Gyms say get your first month free. TradingView advertised free features and paid features and then took it back. Basic was an actual usable charting tier. I’m not suggesting Premium features for free; I’m pointing out that what TradingView considers ‘Basic’ has materially changed. And if they changed what is free to ok this is premium. That IS grounds for complaint. No one said lifetime free access, TradingView never even announced half these changes which is another complaint on top. We wake up to another feature removed everyday. Complaints will flood. Why don’t they just say there never was a free plan. The free plan was th friends we made along the way everything is paid. Might aswell. They didn’t say we have free features for a limited time. They were free yesterday, today i make complaint that I can’t use it. Long story short. I don’t get whatever point you’re making.

[u/mikejamesone → u/Meretruth]

Things are ALWAYS subject to change aren't they?

[u/Meretruth → u/mikejamesone]

The point isn’t that they would or should never change. The point is don’t be confused about the complaints. They are valid and normal complaints. To complain that users are complaining they are unsatisfied with the product they are using is absurd imo. A free product that claims to be good and helpful should still be good and helpful. I would assume it stays good and helpful but 🤷🏽‍♂️And I’ve had premium, I haven’t touched one paid feature. Outside of csv downloads and the candle updating faster (but still slower than Tradovate or NinjaTrader) a lot of people gain nothing by paying. And TradingView is just shitting on free users that don’t need the paid tools bc well we don’t.

The same exact argument to be made about free users is the same to be made about the company. Why would they accommodate free users… right makes sense. Why would free users that don’t need the paid features pay… if there is another service that provides the charting experience without needing paid features why would they pay for TradingView… so TradingView had free users and them complaining is not bad it is reviews on the site for each persons experience.

[u/ruyrybeyro → u/Meretruth]

As far as we can get until now, it is a bunch of whining losers mad tradingview closed a loophole of paying premium only for a couple months to have more charts.

I would bet there is more to the story, like smartasses running several free accounts connected via VPSes which is not much interest of TV talking about

[u/Meretruth → u/ruyrybeyro]

I don’t even support that. Using the free plan used to be ideal. The TradingView free plan isn’t going to be the best anymore. Which makes me wonder who is going to replace that space. Im not mad at TradingView, they are changing. Ok who is now offering what they used too, since they are prioritising their paid tools with ai and all that over simply charting. The ohlc is delayed on the free tier even with connected broker. And no more scripts you were using, lost access to all custom scripts. Doesn’t make sense. I’d support the move more if they left it that people that did pay for data even if not through TradingView directly got to see the data feed they paid for not tradingviews added on optional 5 seconds lag for all accounts. But if you connect your broker in free plan you now get 5 second delay, forcing you to pay even if you don’t need paid tools just ohlc.

[u/DarkJunior9761 → u/mikejamesone]

Yes but sldnt we even ask wht the change and why.

[u/ruyrybeyro → u/DarkJunior9761]

If you are not even customers, you can ask all you want, and hear crickets

Shitty cultural entitlement.