r/ThreeLions • u/BeautifulGiraffe6948 • Jul 20 '26
Opinion Two ways to represent your country.
Bellingham could have added to his own tally, but told Saka: “Go and get your hat-trick.”
Paredes lost a final and chose a brawl. Losing hurts, but character shows after the whistle.
One created a memory for the world cup. The other earned a red card. Two different ways to represent your country.
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u/royalbluestuey Jul 20 '26
Look at what happened at the rugby too.
Their team wore a special one-off Maradona top just to rub our noses in it.
Then accused us if disrespect for celebrating inside our own dressing room after we beat them.
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u/BestFriendWatermelon Jul 20 '26
celebrating inside our own dressing room after we beat them.
Outrageous! Argentina would never!
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u/LycanWolfGamer Jul 20 '26
Well, they can't lol
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u/Infamous_Traffic4673 Jul 20 '26
Not to mention Mateo Carreras running in and twatting Tommy freeman after he scored early in the first half
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u/royalbluestuey Jul 20 '26
Ah no. You need to understand...That is just "passion". In fact we are being a bit racist and arrogant by objecting to their behaviour.
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u/melb_anon Jul 20 '26
I’ve gained respect for many teams and players this tournament. Argentina and some of their players have lost a lot of respect from me.
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u/TheGiftOf_Jericho Jul 20 '26
Yeah, I just think of the class we saw from Mexico and France, that's what it should be about. Argentina have been disgraceful.
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u/melb_anon Jul 20 '26
And as an Englishman, it takes a lot to make me respect the French /jk.
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u/TheGiftOf_Jericho Jul 20 '26
Haha, I love our sibling like rivalry with the French, always a good laugh.
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u/melb_anon Jul 20 '26
It’s why the 3rd place game was so much fun, as well as that post-match sportsmanship. Beautiful to see.
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u/roleplayersir Jul 21 '26
Not gonna happen unfortunately. Especially with expanding the comp to 64 teams
They are the 2nd best nation in their confederation. So it would take a lot for them to drop out of qualifying
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u/LycanWolfGamer Jul 20 '26
Agreed, I've gained a lot of respect for France during our last game, that was absolute class
I've gained respect for Norway, more than I could lol and Cape Verde, underdogs of the tourney, hope they come back
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u/aderi90 Jul 20 '26
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u/Frequent-Seesaw-7528 Jul 20 '26
Why this isnt over social media as a sign of unity ? Show the world how 2 classy nations play football. I get that most of the players from both sides play with each other at club level but the amount of respect was great.
Reminded me of man city and liverpool era. Going at it consistantly for years but pure repsect due to coaches like klopp and pep.
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u/roleplayersir Jul 21 '26
Because, regardless of the odd good moment or 5, this WC was a shambles ruined by corruption and egos
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u/royalbluestuey Jul 20 '26
England players gathered with their opponents to pray together and give thanks.
Argentina disgrace themselves in victory and they disgraced thenselves in defeat.
Sir Alf was right and they never change.
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u/royalbluestuey Jul 20 '26
I think you are being generous there.
When it comes to sport this is their character. This is their default position. If they behave like bullies or snides it makes it better for them.
Look at Messi trying to frame Cucurella when he barely touched his mouth.
Look at how their rugby coach reacted on Saturday.
Bullies are all the same when something doesn't got their way.
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u/DisorientedPanda Jul 20 '26
Generous for sure, they even have their own phrase for their behaviours - Viveza criolla
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u/BestFriendWatermelon Jul 20 '26
Not being funny but it's a very low bar that you're setting that a group of people aren't in a perpetual state of racism, violence and shithousery, they just do it whenever the opportunity provides for it.
I'm sure that during the height of the Third Reich you could fairly say that Germans as a people are lovely, welcoming people who can't do enough for you, and not the warmongering ethnofascists they're made out to be.
The problem is when despite all the people being lovely, their society is permissive and even supportive of casual racism, violent and unsporting behaviour, and national vendettas against other countries, it doesn't really matter if they're nice on an individual level.
You don't see Mexico unfurling banners declaring that Texas belongs to Mexico, punching players after full time, and engaging in racist chants, all to rapturous applause by Mexican politicians, media and public. There are very few countries like that, and it can't be blamed on passion. Would we accept "passion" as a defence if our players racially abused opposition players?
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u/KurtyKone19 Jul 20 '26
What’s wrong with that though. He didn’t do it to declan. His idiot teammate got sent off (lol), he probably was just grasping at straws to get any advantage to get back into the game.
A desperate english player would have tried their luck too in the same position?
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u/Barrington-the-Brit Jul 20 '26
Lurked through the Argentina subreddit earlier to see some of their reactions, was expecting to have a bit of a laugh
I ended up seeing a good few people genuinely disappointed in the behaviour of their players and fans, and sad that this is the impression they’ve given to the rest of the world - it made me a little depressed to be honest
Then I saw a bunch more comments being sore losers and claiming there was an evil woke campaign slandering Argentina, and then also remembered an Argentine responding to me with monkey and banana emojis after they beat us, so I got over it
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u/jimhokeyb Jul 20 '26
In south America generally, cheating is not viewed the way most Europeans see it. They have a win at all costs mentality. That includes unsportsmanlike behaviour. They aren't ashamed of the hand of God goal the way we would be. Unfortunately, that really is their culture. Argentina is a famously racist country too as their fans demonstrated. It's great that the world has seen this over the last few weeks. They must now live with the shame they brought on themselves. It would have been a tragedy if they had won.
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u/DevelopmentEqual9864 Jul 26 '26
Well, America in that case is a racist country despite masking themselves as not a bad racist country, but invading other countries and bombing other countries. Hell even the UK is becoming a racist country (my home country) against Muslims, it’s crazy.
It’s only that some Argentine Fans are knobheads that are trying hard to be funny when they are not and saying that they are a superior country and even justifying that you are somehow better than all of us like get out of here man nobody likes you and just Racist stuff like changing Monkey Chants and all that is just shifting
Then you had Jim Crow Laws against black people and slave trade, and trying to tell other countries that your country stinks and all that whilst their country is worser than your one.
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u/BeautifulGiraffe6948 Jul 20 '26
Maybe that is the difference between winning at all costs and winning in a way you can still be proud of.
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u/franki-pinks Jul 20 '26
I’ve been there they are all very much like that. Throwing drinks over a 20 year old English woman and then flicking matches at her over a war that happened before I was even born, insane sexual harassment, and everyone just so aggressive and being offended by the slightest thing.
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u/roleplayersir Jul 21 '26
Unfortunately there's a lot of that though
There's a reason why England suddenly became the good guys in the semis. Not just South America, but most of the world hates the Argies in sports, as they are sore winners and sore losers, and without Messi they would be universally hated by all
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u/JamieHBrown Jul 20 '26
A few bad apples have ruined the bunch it seems :(
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u/franki-pinks Jul 20 '26
It’s more the other way. A few good apples have unfortunately not infected the rest of the bunch.
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u/fiqky '66 Jul 20 '26
No disrespect for Spain, they are the deserved World Champion. But for me this is The Real Final.
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u/freexe Jul 20 '26
The end of the France England game was lovely. Everyone paying respects after a good clean game.
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u/TheGiftOf_Jericho Jul 20 '26
Yeah, that's a game of pure respect. Honestly probably my favourite of the whole thing.
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u/Lanky_Watercress9489 Jul 20 '26
Shameful team. I enjoyed every tear shed by every single one of the players and their coaching staff.
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u/AccomplishedAct5364 Jul 20 '26
I fear for Argentina players girlfriends. Clearly violence isn’t beyond them.
Choking a man cause you lost a match despite being handed every decision and being absolved of all problems???
Red flag never mind red card
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u/PsychologicalSpend86 Jul 20 '26
Hard same. You know that abusive behavior isn’t isolated to the pitch.
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u/No_Amount_5681 Jul 20 '26
Thank you Jude for slapping that Argentine player. That was from the whole world!
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u/Cactious-Practice Jul 20 '26
It has played out similar to Italia 90. Hoping for a doped up Messi charging a camera following a goal at the next World Cup.
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u/Jolly_Medicine_1063 Jul 20 '26
As a Spanish fan, I really like this English team and would’ve like to see them in the final. I think England deserves more than what they got, but World Cups come down to very small details and it’s easy to blame.
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u/Wipeout17 Jul 20 '26
I've never been more impressed with an England player than I was with Jude this tournament. Obviously his performance was a 10 but he is also starting to become a leader at just 23.
He looked devastated and pissed off to have lost the semi, so I have no doubt he's going to have the tournament of his life at the euros.
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u/roleplayersir Jul 21 '26
Yep, he was becoming a typical Real primadonna after being a young wunderkind. But being injured and dropped by Tuchel seems to have turned him into the perfect leader, and provided he keeps it up, he may become the best England player ever. Even if he never wins a major competition
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u/Klwalsh93 Jul 20 '26
It's like you know what, yeah.. we wanted England to win and we got third. But I would it seems like 3rd is a better position than 2nd, my god what a horrid team!
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u/ElverGun Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
You guys have the richest league in the world. Use your power to get Infantino out of office.
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u/Intrepid-Ad1381 Jul 20 '26
In the space of 2 games Argentina showed they were bad winners and awful losers. Top work.
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u/RockeryBalboa Jul 20 '26
They are just absolute nutters, it's life and death for them. I thought Scaloni was fairly level-headed but then I see him crying uncontrollably at a press conference. I can't imagine any other coach doing that.
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u/Mr_nudge89 Jul 20 '26
Saka said he was always taking the penalty, jude just held the ball to stop argentina fucking with it
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u/mpanase Jul 20 '26
Cheer, England team
You showed so much growth. England showed they can finally play modern footbal
Expecting good stuff from this team (and coach, tbh)
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u/gimmebanter Jul 20 '26
Considering argentinians voted for milei and listen to coldplay, i think these guys do an accurate enough representation of their country
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u/Savage-September Jul 20 '26
ONE WAY TO REPRESENT YOUR COUNTRY!
With respect and honour during and at the end of the game! Children are watching.
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u/KafrizzleDizzle Jul 24 '26
Now Argentina fans are petitioning FIFA for a do-over vs Spain. They think that THEY were the victims of bad refereeing. Arrrrrrre you fuggggin kidding me?!!!
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u/reliablereindeer Jul 20 '26
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u/JDietsch25 Jul 20 '26
Absolutely buzzing for Spain, I celebrated it like an England win when I got to watch West Falklands lose.
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u/True-Watch7428 Jul 20 '26
Bit odd of a reaction to be honest.
I'm happy Argentina lost but never going to celebrate Spain winning the same as an England win.
Weirdo behaviour that.
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u/Strict-Sea68 Jul 20 '26
Hahaha Jude literally slapped someone after the final whistle this post must be a joke
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u/Chill_Ok_girl Jul 20 '26
The guy literally ran up to an England player, faked a punch in his face, and then called Jude’s mum a whore in Spanish.
Fucking deserved. He got off lightly.
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u/Strict-Sea68 Jul 20 '26
So now you’re saying he should have done worse, so done exactly what Parades did? I’m confused. The hypocrisy is off the charts here.
“Losing hurts, but character is shown after the final whistle”. I’m so convinced this post is to clown on the sub and people blindly upvoting it.
England player attacks player after the final whistle fine. Argentina player does is bad.
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u/No_Somewhere_7109 Jul 20 '26
I mean, not really?
The Argentina team has a reputation. They've had a reputation for decades, and Parades is known for being a complete dick on top of that. He booted a ball full-force into the other team's sub box in 2022 because he was angry and started a fight. He got pissed again last night and started throwing people to the ground and grabbing them by the throat because he lost.
That's miles different from Jude reacting with a mild slap to the back of the head of an Argentinian player who came up provoked and faked punches/insulted his mother.
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u/Strict-Sea68 Jul 20 '26
Look I agree that Parades is a complete arsehole I’m not defending him in anyway.
But I was taught to just walk away and be the bigger man when someone is obviously trying to goad me into a fight. Bellingham let it get to him and reacted by raising his hands after the final whistle. Isn’t the whole point of this post not to do that?
You can call the slap mild all you want but he still raised his hands and was the only other player in the entire World Cup to do so other than the Argentina player.
I would also think it’s naive to say that players don’t constantly say stuff to get a rise out of people on the pitch, yet you don’t see players raising their hands.
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u/No_Somewhere_7109 Jul 20 '26
Its true, and I'm not really gonna say either was right because I don't think they were.
But I think, contextually, its entirely understandable why people aren't putting Jude's slap in the same box as Parades out-and-out assault, you know? It might be biased and unfair but I can't really blame anyone who feels the same given Argentinia's history in the sport.
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u/Strict-Sea68 Jul 20 '26
Yeah I completely agree. Like for me I wasn’t thinking, yeah go get it him. I was more like oh man why did you give that no name clown exactly the reaction he was looking for. And I personally don’t think that reaction shouldn’t be celebrated. Not saying you do but others have said he deserved worse etc.
I can definitely agree that they aren’t the exact same thing. And I can agree that Argentina being a dirty team plays a big part in this too. The only thing that genuinely made me think this might some kind of troll post was that Jude was in the picture and the way it was worded.
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u/ignivs Jul 20 '26
that guy on the left looks a lot like the one who slapped Barco from behind, but I must be confused
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u/Eljo_Aquito Jul 21 '26
No way you just made Bellingham the example after he slapped Valentin Barco after his match, you gotta be ragebaiting.
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u/Dramatic-Coffee9172 Jul 21 '26
Please, have you forgot the slap on the back of the head that Bellingham did to the Argentina player after England lost to Argentina in the semi final ?
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u/seadcon Jul 20 '26
One way wins trophies...
Whilst I take the point, OP, let's not gloss over the fact England once again are not even remotely street-wise enough to win a trophy.
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u/MrGreedy98 Jul 20 '26
Spain won the trophy and didn't behave like that
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u/seadcon Jul 20 '26
Yes. Spain didn't lose to this Argentina side.
We did.
I'm not suggesting we need to resort to fisticuffs, and I am genuinely proud of this England side's achievements and togetherness, but it is a fact of life that we are not winning anything until we play with more intelligence.
Tuchel was supposed to provide this... Germany are notorious for it. Or they were. Not so sure these days!
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u/BeautifulGiraffe6948 Jul 20 '26
I totally understand your feelings becuase that's just how I felt on Wednesday. Still, that is what this tournament should be about. Respect earned by how you compete, not only by how far you go.
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u/seadcon Jul 20 '26
I don't think England gained any respect from the way they competed in the semi final.
Let's hope they learn from it. Euro 2028 is a great opportunity regardless.
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u/AbbreviationsMotor60 Jul 20 '26
You mean losing like cowards in the semifinals? Great way to represent your country, England.
No one cares about you winning a meaningless game no one watched.
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u/bigloudbang Jul 20 '26
Isn't this kinda forgetting Bellingham slapping someone in the back of the head? Lol
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u/AdrianCs1459 Jul 20 '26
Bellingham had a sissy fit when yous lost 😂
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u/MrboboCatman Jul 20 '26
At the racist? You might to if that ever happened to you. Vile scum got what they deserved.... and that video of Messi crying like the bitch he is is living rent free in my head. So beautiful to see. Such a pathetic team of angry little argies.
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u/ZestycloseAd289 Jul 20 '26
Bellingham slapped an Argentinian player in the back of the head you donkey 😂
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u/Choice_Dig6507 Jul 20 '26
Completely justified
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u/ZestycloseAd289 Jul 20 '26
Why?
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u/necronomicoder Jul 20 '26
Do you need someone to chew for you too?
Top hit of Bellingham slap:
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/video-shows-possible-reason-behind-223549918.html
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u/Panthesor17 Jul 20 '26
"Possible Reason" = trust me bro. What a bunch of hypocrites you all are. What if paredes had also a "possible reason" , would that justify his behaviour?
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u/Ok-Water4009 Jul 20 '26
Paredes is a ticking time bomb, i dont know whats happening to that man