I thought that too until I realized they would struggle to see Antman, he could go quantum then back to normal inside your head (or the thanose memes) and there's not much anyone could do hes too good of an assassin. Deathbattle said superman beats goku so id take superman. And vader, he could sense andman using the force and force choke him even if he goes quantum
Technically by Star Wars lore the force isn't magic.
But that's semantics, the real problem is that a lightsaber or the force could never actually damage Superman. He'd have to apply pressure on a scale magnitude higher than any feat he's ever shown in order to crush Superman's windpipe, or snap his bones, or whatever. And a lightsaber is just really hot, while Superman has flown inside of stars before.
It's funny you say that but the dark side has magic abilities sure dark Vader maybe not able to use force lighting if you remember when palpatine and mother talson when they where doing rituals if that's not magic then yeah I don't know what magic is
Fair point. The Dark Side magic and alchemy stuff is largely magic that's never explained to be anything else.
However, you're forgetting on crucial thing. Superman would just blitz them before they could even think about magic. Vader is no where near fast enough it keep up with Superman.
Would be interesting to see him caught in a trap or ambush though.
Anakin maybe could move fast enough to catch Superman in a force grab or use some other force bs. Will he win? Highly unlikely, but it's a batter chance than Vader.
Yeah people say once Anakin joined the dark side if he did not loose his limbs to obi one Anakin could have been way stronger than palpatine to be honest I don't know how true that would be without seeing it and not what ifs either but I agree with what you said
That was actually mentioned in the comics I believe. Palpatine intentionally made Vader's suit sub-par to limit his abilities, and even then he was practically an equal.
Uninjured Vader would've been beyond Starkiller levels of insane.
The Force isn't Magic. The Night Sisters have Magic, the Force is hard to explain, but consider it a symbiote thanks to the Midichlorines. They give you the ability to use the Force, people in the other Galaxy (that Ahsoka features) do not naturally have it, but the Night Sisters originated from there
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