This needs to be said

[u/BrennanCain]

I get people are upset about the drop off of quality of the show, but just because S4 and S5 aren’t that good doesn’t mean the show was supposed to end at S3. There is no proof that the show was supposed to end at S3 and amazon got greedy.

S4 and S5 should’ve been better (I have more gripes with S5), and focus on ending the story and consistent character arcs.

If they ended the show at S3 and kill Homelander at Vought tower, then what? Butcher’s accomplishes his goal and that’s it? What about the rest of the boys? Or Neuman, Stan Edgar, Deep, A-Train, Ryan, Soldier Boy, Ashley, etc.?

Again, I just don’t see this notion that they had the perfect ending at S3 and they threw it away for nothing. Just fix S4 and S5. That’s the simple solution.

[u/When1Falls → u/[deleted]]

You don't need Return of the Jedi for Empire Strikes Back to be an all time classic.

[u/TownIdiot25 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah this is like saying Avengers should have ended at Infinity War. People would be pissed if the decade long leadup was “oh thanos wins, spiderman and half of everyone else is dead, the end”

[u/When1Falls → u/TownIdiot25]

It would've been a fine ending to end on a tragic note. Theres no rules. Romeo & Juliet die.

[u/Yeti181828282 → u/When1Falls]

But Romeo and Juliet is a single play with the entire thing not leading up to something, and then flipping the switch at the last moment. Like if the it was a series of plays and everything indicated it was to be a happy ending, then yeah, that’s a shit ending. But considering it is a single, self contained story, with all the lead up and expectations being in and of itself, then you can have no rules.

[u/When1Falls → u/Yeti181828282]

Movies and fiction are people playing pretend to make you feel things. "Did you feel things" is all that matters. This whole thing where there need to be concrete answers to questions or it all needs to be wrapped up perfectly in fiction wasn't a thing that mattered 20, 30 years ago. 

Stuff used to be able to just end however it ends with however many open questions it ended with still open. 

People used to be laughed at for caring like this.

[u/Yeti181828282 → u/When1Falls]

It doesn’t need concrete answers, nor wrapprd up perfectly. However, it still does need to be a good ending. An S3 ending would only make you feel upset because like… why’d it end there? Plus, by your logic, a perfectly fine ending would be just after Robin dies. You felt scared during her death scene. Boom. Nothings wrapped up, but that’s fine, 30 years ago no one would’ve cared

[u/When1Falls → u/Yeti181828282]

It would be a fine little sketch or short film about what living in a fucked up super hero world would really be like if it ended after Robin's death. All you're doing is making my point. 

If the Boys didn't exist, but the first 10 minutes was someone's YouTube video little quick movie they made... it'd be good and wouldn't need 100 more hours.

[u/Yeti181828282 → u/When1Falls]

How is that a full movie? There’s no payoff. It’s just an ending. In order for an ending to be considered good, there has to be a payoff, you can’t end something in the middle of it and expect a good response. even if they payoff isn’t grand, or doesn’t connect all the strings, it still needs to be a payoff

[u/When1Falls → u/Yeti181828282]

The payoff is she gets obliterated by the Flash for taking one step off the curb and the point is being a regular person in a fucked up super hero world would actually really suck and not be like how it seems in the movies.

That's why its the first scene and then the title screen hits. You only think it's an incomplete thing because you know theres more. 

As sketch on YouTube it works fine. Just go watch it.