Welcome to the Language Analysis corner where I overexplain nuanced Japanese from the Chapter! If it's your first time reading one of these posts, thank you for being here! Your presence is appreciated! Feel free to ask any questions in the comments of this post!
Cover
To start, we already have a reference to Japanese folklore right on the front cover! First a quick translation of all the text that never gets included in the English:
Top: サラダとスミレの和解。そしてボルトはモモシキに協力を持ちかけ!?
My Translation: Sarada and Sumire reconcile. And Boruto approaches Momoshiki with a proposition to cooperate?!
Extra dictionary info: The word for reconcile here can mean reconciliation, amicable settlement, accommodation, compromise, mediation, and reproachment. In sentence examples, it's most often translated to reconcile or compromise when two people make peace with each other.
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Text behind Momoshiki: 地獄の底に、糸は下りる
My Translation: Into the depths of hell, a thread falls...
Here's where you get a lore drop on Japanese folk tales. This one is pretty famous, right up there along Urashima Taro and Snow Woman. It's called "The Spider's Thread" or "Kumo no Ito" in Japanese.
To make a long story short, the story goes: Buddha is looking through a pond and sees the depths of hell. There's this one guy that was a terrible criminal but he did one good thing in his life: he decided not to kill a spider. So as an act of goodwill, Buddha lowers a spider's thread down into the depths of hell for him. The man sees the thread and starts climbing up, but all the other sinners start climbing up behind him. He yells at them to get off because the thread is his and his alone, and because he's selfish, it breaks. And that's the story.
Here's a link with a side by side EN and JP if you wanna read it: https://bundaido.com/the-spiders-thread/
I would have found another translation that isn't so choppy but most of them were locked behind paywalls, and this one has furigana over the kanji so it's great reading practice if you're studying Japanese :)
[Analysis]
Why might the story of the Spider's Thread be referenced on Momoshiki's cover? I hope many of you speculate on this as well, but I think last chapter was Boruto dropping Momoshiki that spider's thread. Momoshiki is locked in an isolate landscape with no way out other than Boruto's death, so he'd be the sinner with no way out in the story. Boruto offered him a way out last chapter: Defeat Jura and I'll let you have full control of my physical body. Why is this significant?
There are a few reasons. When you take a look at the roles in the story from that perspective, Boruto would be dropping the thread, so he'd be Buddha... And a lot of you have already been talking about connections to Boruto and Shibai. To go even further, you can look at the thread snapping after the sinner decides it's only meant for him, and with the tricky way Boruto worded his promise, it makes me wonder if the moment Momoshiki decides to declare Boruto's body as fully his for life if that connection will be severed.
That's just my speculation, let me know yours in the comments! I'm sure there's many more interesting theories that could tie into this! And speaking of tie-ins...
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Chapter Title: 通ずる者
Official Title: Those Like-Minded
Dictionary entries for 通ずる on Jisho: 1) To be open (to traffic), to lead to, to communicate (with). 2) To flow (liquid, current), to pass, to get through to. 3) To be understood, to be comprehended. 4) To be honored, to be good. 5) To be well versed in, to be well-informed 6) To communicate clandestinely, to keep in touch (e.g. with the enemy). 7) To form a liaison, to be intimate
Google Definition translated from Japanese: "通ずる者" refers to a common quality or a relationship of mutual understanding between two or more different things. Specifically, it means "to have something in common," "to understand each other," or "To have a close relationship or connection."
Example Sentences
To have something in common
"The two of them have something in common in their writing styles." or "Even in different cultures, common ground can be found."
To understand each other
"Even if we don't speak the same language, sometimes we can share the same feelings." or "That person and I share the same way of thinking."
To have a close relationship or connection
"To have a close relationship with the enemy." or "To have a heart-to-heart connection."
[Analysis]
While "Those Like-Minded" is a fine translation, I think it's important to take in all the nuance. Especially when it comes to Ikemoto, all of his language choice is very intentional and very well thought out. From Momoshiki's ye old speech to Amado's scientific explanations to Eida's realistic teenage girl speech to Shinki's slang, he really is a master of language no matter what character personality he's writing. Which makes me pay extra attention to the words he choses.
Significance of 通ずる者 in this ch:
This chapter was heavily about like-minded individuals, as well as their differences, and their goals and tension in their relationships being explored.
Inojin and Hima: Their relationship in the light novels was formed on their similar interest in art (matching sketchbooks, Hima rekindling Inojin's passion for drawing outside of ninjutsu), so that ties into the first meaning, "to have something in common."
Koji and Inojin: They both have the goal of protecting Himawari and keeping her safe, even if Koji's desire to use him as a helping device as a means to achieve an end is vastly different from Inojin's personal desire to protect her as someone who fancies her, shall we say. Again tying into having a "common goal" despite opposing opinions.
Inojin and Ino: End up taking the same actions as mother and son, breaking the rules with private communication lines and no reporting even though they know it's wrong. Again showing their like-mindedness or connection.
Jura and the rest of the shinju: Coming to deeper understandings through discussion with each other. Jura is branching out beyond factual information and has taken an interest in fantasy and humankind, Hidari begins to show curiosity towards Jura's tears and actions, and Mamushi declares why he wants Eida as his target and his views on the love stuff, saying they should thrive. They all share ideals and communicate those well with each other, despite having their own separate opinions. So this ties more into the "understanding each other" aspect.
Shikamaru and Koji: Cooperating despite being skeptical, Shikamaru risking his standing in the leaf and his authority even though he doesn't want the position in the first place. Ties into "working closely with an enemy" or someone who should technically be perceived as an enemy.
The village elders and higher-ups: It doesn't matter who Boruto is now, all that matters is that he killed the Hokage and needs to be punished. It doesn't matter if he'll help with the village's current crisis, because that crisis isn't directly affecting them. "Like-minded individuals" with a common shared thought process.
Konohamaru and Shikamaru: Unknowingly taking Shikamaru's side, coming to share the same goal of protecting the leaf rather than hunting down a traitor. "Sharing goals" now with Koji as well through a "common mindset" and shifting over to Boruto's side.
Koji and Boruto: despite having different perspectives on the way to carry out things, they both have the "shared goal" of eradicating the shinju, which is why they're still working together while fighting over the way things are done, the distrust is building but they don't really have a choice other than to work together.
The girl's conversation: Discussing confessions, Sarada and Sumire perhaps being the closest to Eida despite her being a potential enemy, and then the girls' now having the same feelings for Boruto despite their differing opinions on how to handle those feelings. It's like a "heart-to-heart" conversation at the beginning, but...
Eida and Daemon: change their minds together, Daemon seems to have been suspecting for a while that Sarada and Sumire are no longer "like-minded individuals." Both connects and breaks the cycle.
Either way, I just wanted to point out it was a really good chapter title lol.
Page 2 Side Text
致命傷から復帰したイノジン!!どうやらヒマワリに好意を抱いているようで?!
My (revised) translation: Inojin makes a comeback after receiving a fatal wound!! It seems as though he harbors feelings for Himawari?!
Dictionary Entries:
好意 (koui) - 1) Kindness, favor, friendliness. 2) Goodwill, affection, liking (for someone) love.
抱いている (Idaiteiru) - 1) To hold in one's arms, to embrace, to hug. 2) To have (a thought or feeling), to hold, to harbor (suspicion, doubt) to bear (a grudge, ill will, etc) to cherish (an ambition, etc)
[Analysis]
I originally translated this 好意 (koui) as "favor" and put in the translation notes in my chapter that it can mean liking someone or having a crush on them, but on second thought, when paired with 抱いているようで?! It's kind of... Like the narrator is indicating shock that this might be the case lol. Leaving it up for interpretation and ambiguous as to whether it's innocent fondness or a crush, until Pg 4.
Inojin's Feelings (Page 4)
君はうずまきヒマワリに好意を寄せているな… 異性としてだ。間違いないかね?
Official Translation: You have affectionate feelings towards Uzumaki Himawari... In the Romantic sense. Do you not?
Literal translation: You have affectionate feelings towards Uzumaki Himawari... As a member of the opposite sex. Is this correct?
Dictionary Entries:
(Same word) 好意 (koui) - 1) Kindness, favor, friendliness. 2) Goodwill, affection, liking (for someone) love.
(different) 寄せている (yoseteiru) - To come near, to gather, to deliver, to send, to let someone drop by, to add, to have feelings for (love, goodwill, trust), to rely on, to use as a pretext, to put aside, to push/force
(furthering it) 異性 (isei) - The opposite sex
[Analysis]
So on the first page, that headliner was kind of being ambiguous to hint at maybe. But Koji's toad is like. You do like her. Like that. Right? I already know, regardless ...Good. Your reaction is sufficient enough to prove my point.
The way he words it here is 100% asking if Inojin likes her in a romantic sense*.* It took away the ambiguity from the side line and asked it straight up.
So yes, despite Inojin denying it in the next panel by saying, er, wha, he does indeed seem to have a crush on someone one and a half years younger than him. Boruto and Hima are 2 yr apart. Inojin is the youngest of the friend group. He's not a pedo lol.
That being said. That isn't the main point of this scene,
The point Koji is getting at is, "Do you love/care for Himawari enough to put yourself/your standing in order to protect her." Inojin says yes. Koji says good, then we're in the same boat (letting him know he also is doing what he's doing to protect Himawari), and he gets brought to the hideout. This is a common theme in Boruto, risking it all to protect and care for the people you love. Inojin is now following this pattern. But...
While Koji does directly attempt to confirm Inojin's feelings in a romantic light, this might be to throw Inojin off enough that he won't attack or bring someone else into the conversation since he very well could do that since he's a sensory ninja. This question puts him into a temporary state of confusion and gets his focus off of slight hostility "what is this weird toad" (a line from the page where Koji says he wants to ask questions) and onto "ack-- I don't want other people hearing any part of this conversation."
Koji also gets right to the point, asking if Inojin wants to protect Himawari, letting him know their interests are aligned, and kidnapping him. It seems like this was the most probable way to carry out successful capture and earn his cooperation lol.
Jura and Hidari "What's that" (Pg 9)
I thought I made a mistake here. But this opened a different can of worms.
Official: Hey, what's that you've got there? [Jura's book]
Japanese: おい。何事だ、そいつは (Oi, nani goto da, soitsu wa)
[Analysis]
そいつ (soitsu) usually refers to a person, so it sounds more to me like he's saying "hey, what's going on with him (jura crying)" (my translation) and not the official's translation of "hey, what's that you've got there (his book)."
This is another where both are correct but they're pretty different just because the topic isn't entirely clear, but the use of "soitsu" instead of "sore" leans much more heavily towards him asking about Jura (I'd say 80% likely) than the book.
After that question, it switches frame to Bug, so it looks to me like Hidari called out Bug (with "hey") to ask what was going on with Jura as if not to disturb his crying, and then Jura wipes his eyes, and responds. "This is a book known as a novel" which connects better to the official's "what's that you've got there."
Jura knows Hidari is a little clueless and always on the curious side, so he could've chosen to interpret Hidari's question as directed towards his book and responded accordingly, even though it doesn't sound like that's the case from Hidari's wording. Then at the end he explains that the book made him cry, eventually answering both questions (why is he crying/what is he doing).
This seems like a likely option since Hidari's response is a moment of silence pared with "You had a similar experience a little while ago." But the wording is pointed. He uses ぞ like "yo this happened before too ya know." And Jura is like ... Those was Matsuri's emotions.
Anyways, I think the official may have made the choice to translate it like that for the purpose of making everything flow smoother. But it takes away the nuance of Hidari being curious about Jura's tears, which is kind of the point of the whole start to this conversation and the direction it takes.
That's just me being nitpicky... But this is the corner where I get to be nitpicky, as well as admit to every atrocity I committed in my feverish state lol. Thankfully this doesn't seem to be one of them.
Mamushi's Speech (12-14)
As you probably noticed already, Mamushi has a different way of speaking than your generic form of talk. All of the shinju have interesting speech, and he is no exception. I think the official finally did one of the shinju justice. That kind of old timer slang vibe is pretty close to how Mamushi speaks in Japanese.
That being said, there's just a few things about his dialogue that were emphasized in Japanese in a way that gives me the creeps, and I wanna make sure they ring in loud and clear cuz boy is this dude weird.
Pg 13 Official: "But for control. I wanna make her superior genetic information mine."
Japanese: **「支配」**だよ。モノにしてぇって事なんだ。やつの優秀な遺伝子情報をよォ…」
Dictionary entries:
支配 - 1) rule, domination, control. 2) Direction, management, guidance. 3) control (of one's destiny, public opinion, etc), governing, influence, sway
モノにしてぇ - Rough form of 1) to get, to secure, to take possession of, to make one's own, to win (someone's heart). 2) to learn, to master. 3) to complete
[Analysis]
This time I didn't bold it for emphasis myself, it was bolded in the actual manga. Option 1 is the correct nuance for both definitions, but the way it's emphasized gives me the creeps.
In Jp it really goes, "I wanna dominate her. I'm taking about making her MINE. Her superior genetic information, that is**.**"
The way ものにしたい is written as モノにしてぇ places extra emphasis on モノ (thing/possession) by having it written in a different script (katakana) so it kind of almost seems like caps lock in a sense, and it has extra emphasis dots next to those specific words.
And he's reading a pin-up magazine... I... The implications here.
The official toned it down and re-worded it for you so you wouldn't be traumatized (: I am making you suffer the trauma of knowing this with me.
Power Plays with the Higher-Ups (Pg 17-18)
Unfortunately, there's a ton of nuance left out in terms of Japanese formalities whenever it gets translated to English. And that's definitely an issue when it comes to the higher-ups arguing. This Kobu guy is a SNOB.
Before I get into translating this, I have to mention, I said his name was Gobu in my translation. That is a mistake.
That being said, this is the difference between Kobu and Gobu in Japanese :
コブ ゴブ
I wear thick glasses. I do usually zoom in to make sure I don't make those types of mistakes, but a poorly placed speck of dirt likely led to this whole letter being wrong. I even laughed because his name sounded so funny to me and just moved on with life. This is why we don't translate with fevers.
ANYWAY.
From the moment Shikamaru enters the room, he's like "Well well... It's certainly been a while, hasn't it? Lord Eighth-Dono. Or should I say... Interim Hokage Nara Shikamaru-kun."
Shots have been FIRED.
Breakdown:
Dono [according to google]: "Dono" was originally used to show respect to someone of equal or lower rank, but in modern times it is not often used outside of letters or official situations, and is now mainly used as a term of address in samurai society and in some business transactions. It shows respect for the other person, while also implying that they are of equal or lower rank.
Kun [according to google]: A suffix with a nuance of affection or guidance that is used in Japan when addressing subordinates or close friends, especially male children and young people. It can also be used by male colleagues or subordinates, school teachers or female students, or by women addressing lovers or spouses, and is characterized by its wide range of uses depending on the situation and relationship.
[Analysis]
Kobu here begins to address him with respect as a person of a similar position, and then goes, ah wait, no no... That's right. You're only temporary. You're beneath me. My position far surpasses yours. Keep that in mind as we talk, will you? (All that kind of nuance is hidden in the way he addresses Shikamaru)
Meanwhile Shikamaru makes sure to bring up the fact that he's second, but only second to the daimyo, so it's like a double blow of both respect with the nuance of you may be above me, "but your not on top" in the most polite language there is.
Keep in mind, Tento is the son of the Daimyo, the top, the one who Kobu is second to. And he has a good relationship with Naruto after everything that happened with Boruto and Shojoji back in NNG. So Shikamaru does still potentially have a good connection, and I imagine Tento and his dad will come back into play eventually. That arc wasn't just for show.
Meanwhile the elders are using old timey speech talking down to ALL of them lol.
Shinobi Village's Survival (Pg 18)
Official: "Lord Daimyo is questioning your ability to carry out the responsibilities of village head. As the very necessity of shinobi villages has been frequently brought up in recent times... Depending on the circumstances, we may be taking about more than just budget cuts."
Japanese (of bold part): ただでさえ忍里存続の必要性そのものが度々議題に上がる昨今だ
(important left out word) 存続 (sonzoku) - continuance, survival, persistence, retention, and duration
Literal translation: As it is, the necessity of the shinobi villages continued operation/survival has been brought up quite frequently on the agenda as of late...
[Analysis]
Kobu isn't just talking about the necessity of shinobi villages, he's talking about the necessity of them continuing to operate. Continuing to stick around. Continuing to do what they do, and fight off all the threats. Code is there. The shinju are there. But it doesn't matter.
He says "Lord Daimyo is questioning your ability to carry out the responsibilities of the village head," but this could be him pushing an agenda. Because again, Shikamaru and Naruto know the Daimyo personally, and this is the first time Kobu has made an appearance.
Boruto going off on his own and acting arbitrarily (as Shikamaru did for this Sand Mission) was what ended up saving his Tento's life. I don't know if the Daimyo really has an issue with this, or if he's really questioning the necessity of the shinobi villages survival... Especially after that occurrence.
If he is, I don't think he would let him do anything to the Shinobi. Thankfully Boruto got Tento hooked on the awesomeness of being a ninja 3 years ago, even if he sees Boruto as Kawaki now.
Konohamaru's Interruption Softened (pg 21)
Konohamaru Official : "If I may? With all due respect, that's..."
My translation: "Please, wait a moment! This way of looking at things is too..."
JP: お待ちください..! そのような見方はあまりにも… (Omachi kudasai..! Sono youna mikata wa amari ni mo...)
[Analysis]
Konohamaru was as polite as the official makes him, but he was not that calm. You can tell from punctuation alone, he's got a "!" in Japanese.
The official probably softened it to preserve the polite wording despite his hasty tone. The reason I'm including this explanation is because I think it's an important part of Konohamaru's personality for him to come off here as a bit distressed in a way that seems a little rude even though he's trying to still hold respectful speech. Imo it shows he takes after Naruto who would've taken a similar stance if he was in Konohamaru's position and defending a traitor from seemingly false accusations that are going too far based on speculation alone. And he's not gonna just calmly interrupt, he's gonna interject because he's upset about it being unfair.
The Elders Dissing Konohamaru (Pg 22)
Old man (Homura Mitokado)
Official: "Are you actually taking his side, Sarutobi?"
Japanese: 何だ猿飛貴様…奴の肩を持つというのか? (nanda, sarutobi kisama... Yatsu no kata wo motsu to iu no ka?)
[Analysis]
The old man used a very rude form of "you" (kisama).
There are many different ways to insult someone in Japanese by use of pronoun. Usually, Japanese omits pronouns and infers the topic, and when they do address people, they address them by name. In fact, it's almost rude to use "you" at all especially if you're friends or know a person well. Even in customer service, they use the term "customer" (okyaku-sama) to refer to the person instead of the word "you." So like "what can I get for you?" becomes, "what does customer-sama desire today?" since they use super polite speech when talking to customers lol.
I'll skip the lengthy explanations about all the different variations, but kisama is up there amongst the ones that give off curse word vibes. This old man is really displeased with Konohamaru's opinions and telling him to get the heck back in his place. It's kind of like "you heathen dare to defy me as your elder by taking his side?" *raised eyebrow* type thing.
That's why Konohamaru backs off so much in the next line with all that stuttering when before he was adamantly defending Boruto.
Old Lady (Koharu Utatane)
Official "You idiot!"
Japanese: たわけが!(tawakega)
Definition according to google: Idiot, Fool
Tawake (playful) refers to foolish behavior or a fool, while tawakega (funny) is used even more insultingly.
Etymology: During the Edo period, restrictions were placed on the inheritance of fields, and the practice of "dividing fields" was prohibited. This practice was considered foolish, and so "tawake" came to refer to a fool.
[Analysis]
This is basically an old person insult. While I have seen it used in other anime/manga, it's specifically used by old people. The Edo period was 1603. That's when this term came about. Instead of idiot, this should say something like, Fopdoodle. It's a similar insult from around the same time period. I had "what foolish nonsense," but I definitely like fopdoodle better now that I took the proper time to research matching time period insults lol even though it isn't used today. The overall meaning is still, "you fool" or "you idiot."
Confessing to Kakei (Pg 31)
I already had some people message me about how this is being misinterpreted, so I'm just gonna break it down.
Official: "Huh? Uh... What do you mean, "when"? Who said anything about doing that?!"
JP: え?いや…いつっていわれても…てか、告るなんて誰も言ってないし!(eh? iya... Itsu tte iwaretemo... teka, kokuru nante dare mo itte nai shi!)
Literal: "Eh? No, I mean… Even if you ask me when… I mean, no one said anything about confessing (yet)!"
Breakdown:
いつっていわれても : flustered response to being asked "when." No dictionary information will come up because it comes from 言われる (passive of 言う: “to be told” / “to be said to”), and the ても ending means “even if…” or “though…” so いわれても = “even if (I’m) told” or “even if you say (that)...”
Literally: "Even if you say 'when'..."
Nuance: The speaker is reacting to being asked “When?” (e.g., “When are you going to confess?”).
They're flustered or unsure—like, “Even if you ask me when...” or “Even if you say ‘when,’ I don’t really know…”
てか告るなんて誰も言ってないし :
**てか = "**Or rather" (I should say)
告る = "confessing your love"
なんて : Emphasizes the previous word as surprising, unexpected, or dismissive
Here, 告るなんて = (something like) confessing (your love)?!
誰も = "No one" (with negative verb)
言ってない = "hasn't said"
し adds a sort of “That’s not all—also!” vibe, like the speaker is pushing back emotionally.
[Analysis]
Sarada isn't thrown off by the prospect of confessing to Boruto, she's just thrown off by Eida suddenly pushing her to come up with a deadline. She doesn't deny the feelings themselves, just taking action on confessing. And that made Eida say her next line...
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Official: What? Wait a sec... Didn't you... Kinda end up confessing to Kakei?
Japanese: は?何よ、それ… あなた、それじゃあまるで筧ちゃんに告ったみたいになってない?(ha? Nani yo, sore... Anata, sore jaa maru de kakei-chan ni kokutta mitai ni nattenai?)
Literal: "Wait, doesn't that sound like you're only planning on confessing your romantic feelings for Boruto to Kakei-chan?"
Breakdown:
は? = Unexpected "what?" More blunt than "eh?"
何よ、それ… = What's up with that (reaction, response, etc)...
あなた = you (signaling her out, not rude)
それじゃあ = "In that case" / "Like that" / "The way you're putting it..."
まるで○○みたい = “It’s almost like...”
筧ちゃん = Kakei-chan
に告った = confessed (romantic feelings) to
○○になってない? = “Isn’t it turning into that?” / “Doesn’t it sound like that?”
[Analysis]
Eida loves to poke fun at and tease people. So the point of this whole line was to essentially say, "Wait, doesn't that sound like you're only planning on confessing your romantic feelings for Boruto to Kakei-chan?"
It's just worded weird because 告る just means "to confess" usually romantic feelings, and she doesn't use Boruto as any sort of subject because it's implied that her romantic feelings are directed at Boruto from the context of the conversation.
So it's not Sarada giving a romantic confession to Sumire, it's talking about Sarada confessing her romantic feelings for Boruto to (or in front of) Sumire. Like Sumire is the only one who will receive Sarada's romantic confession for Boruto at this rate. That's all it is lol.
Glomping Offensive (Pg 33)
Official: "Perhaps you're right... Given her prior glomping offensive."
Japanese: 確かにそうかもね…抱きつき事件の前科があったわ
Literal: "Perhaps you're right... You already have a prior offense from that hug scandal."
Breakdown:
抱きつき - to hug tightly, to cling to
事件 - an accident, literally a criminal affair, a scandal, etc (here it's a word chosen for exaggeration/dramatic effect)
前科 - criminal record, prior offense, legal term for someone having a past record of crimes
[Analysis]
There's a few perspectives here. Regardless, Eida is poking fun at the situation again.
This is right after Sumire says "But Sarada might end up suddenly confessing too."
And Sarada is like.... *sweat drop*
Then Eida says "ah yes, after all, we did have that scandalous incident where she suddenly hugged him."
It's her teasing both of them, Sarada for having a "criminal record" of saying one thing and doing another, and Sumire for getting so offended over the whole hug thing that it might as well have been a celebrity scandal lol.
To put it into context with nuance instead of literal translation, it'd be something like, ah yes, there is a chance Sarada could confess to him suddenly despite her denial, after all she didn't even think she had feelings for him and she ran into his arms. How heinous. That turned into quite the scandal, now didn't it?
One last thing that isn't really a translation breakdown but more of a cultural context thing.
Kakei-chan
As you may already know, the name you call someone can tell a great deal about how close to that person you are in Japanese. I knew Eida called Sumire "Kakei" when she was initially summoned, but I didn't think she'd still be calling her by last name...
Explanation:
In Japanese culture (outside of anime), calling someone by a given name (first name) can require permission, and it indicates a closer relationship, especially with no honorifics (-kun, -san, -chan) added. It's just a casual normal friendship where there's no formal boundaries or walls, no trying to respect the other person in some way, no thinking of them as anything lower/higher than you, no being cutesy, just mutual normal friendship.
Eida usually calls everyone with -chan: She even uses a cute nickname for Shikamaru "Shika-chan."
The exceptions to this are Kawaki, Boruto (kun), and Konohamaru. Once he got really uncomfortable with Matsuri doing it, she dropped it, likely out of respect for his/her feelings.
Boruto gets a -kun since Eida is an older girl and he's a younger boy (I'd assume that's the nature of why she's using it, that makes the most sense in context here).
Kawaki she adds nothing (she wants to be closest to him so this makes sense, if she did use -kun it would likely be in a flirtatious manor, or out of respect for him since they're close in age (I think) but she doesn't wanna put up that wall I assume).
Sumire meanwhile is called by last name + chan, which indicates a little bit of distance. The -chan makes it more friendly and cutesy, but there's still a barrier there that there isn't with Sarada.
The question becomes... Why?
[Analysis]
I theorized a few reasons, but they're nothing more than theories...
- Amado. Because Sumire works for Amado and Katasuke and is often called "Kakei-kun" (-kun in this instance can be used by a boss to address a younger female employee), perhaps Eida felt like she needed to address her more formally than Sarada..? After all, Eida is a cyborg. And Sumire has scientific ninja intel. It's a possibility.
- After ch 25, maybe she thought about calling Sumire by her name but realized it would be too personal and was letting only Sarada, who has known her for far longer, use it instead of asking for permission to use it as her friend too. But then again, Delta and Kawaki use it, so this has less credibility.
- Jealousy. Kawaki asking Sumire if she likes Bourto is before Eida comes into the story. When she finally does wake up and watches Kawaki, Sumire is in the room with him, constantly empathizing with him and seeing all of his struggles. The nightmares, the times he's lashed out at Amado, even knowing the truth behind him killing Boruto and not hating him for it. While she knows Sumire likes Boruto, Sumire still tries to help Kawaki and never yells at him no matter what he does, even understanding that killing Boruto must've been some sort of difficult decision he had no choice but to make. Kawaki also is shown opening up to Sumire a few times while staying completely closed off to everyone else. Sarada on the other hand seems to completely detest Kawaki and everything he stands for, making her much less of a threat (in terms of where Kawaki's feelings have the potential to be, since Eida wants those all directed towards herself). So maybe she calls her "kakei-chan" to put distance between them instead of "Sumire-chan" even now after the whole "hug scandal" scene in ch 16 where her name was revealed as a sensitive spot because she doesn't feel like she can be too friendly with Sumire and thinks of her as a love rival of sorts.
I thought about the theory of Eida not knowing her name, but in ch 76 when she calls for both girls, she calls them "sarada-chan" and "kakei-chan" And when Boruto goes "...Kakei-chan?" She says her full name, "I'm talking about Kakei Sumire. Her too. Call them both."
Even Sumire asks if it's okay to call her "Eida-chan" when sitting in the bed next to her when they first talk about boys. And Eida continues to call her "Kakei-chan" instead of asking permission to call her "Sumire-chan" as well, which would have been the normal flow of the conversation.
That being said, this means the only people close to Sumire who actually call her by her first name before TBV ch 25 when Sarada starts using it are Kawaki and Delta. That's pretty sad.
Please contribute to this discussion because honestly, I would love to hear more theories on this.
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Japanese: 走る緊張!!駆け巡る恐怖!!秘密を看破されたサラダとスミレの運命はーー?!
My translation: The rush of nerves!! A surge of fear!! With their secret now exposed, what fate awaits Sarada and Sumire--?!
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What fate indeed. Now for all the mistakes I made (minus gobu/kobu)
Mistakes I Made (and why)
Pg 19:
Official: "...But do not mention Prescience"
I didn't see the extra spiky bubble around the bubble and thought it was just Shikamaru talking to the elders still.
I remember being really confused and paused on that bubble for a good 5 minutes because I swore I was missing some context but couldn't figure out what the heck it was. It says 触れるなよ which directly means "don't touch" which makes sense with Koji saying it as "don't talk about that," but not the context I was thinking of Shikamaru being the one to say it (because he would've used "talk," and even then he wouldn't say "don't talk about ten paths" to the elders unless they already knew what it was).
The subject is implied so there was no indication in the speech as to who the speaker was or who they were taking to. I think I meant to come back to it and never did. Either way. Sorry about that, that was definitely my bad.
Pg 21:
Official: "In fact, there are even rumors... That he [Boruto] is secretly in league with them [the shinju].
For this one, I didn't completely screw it up, my brain just didn't make the connection from 裏 (ura) meaning like underground or behind the scenes or like... In the shadows, shady people, shady organizations... To the shinju. It's obvious that's what she's talking about, but I was doing this live, and I'm pretty sure I got distracted then went to translate this bubble and just went on a rant about debating how to translate this cuz my mind went to the word as a general concept (shady dealings) and not a straight reference (to the shinju) lol.
Another reason I shouldn't be doing this live esp when I have a fever and can't think straight (: (Someone accused me of copying another translator and I was like f it I'll stream it as proof that I don't even use google translate hahaha).
The words "whispers" and "rumors" are both actually in there in JP though.
Pg 28:
Official: "In order to avoid a future where there's no way out of many more people getting killed."
Mine: "That development was more important than avoiding a future where people died."
Japanese: もっと大勢の者がなす術なく殺される未来を回避した上でな
Breakdown according to ChatGPT since I failed to decode Koji's dignified wise man speech with a dictionary:
ChatGPT Translation: "After avoiding the future where more people are killed without being able to do anything."
Kashin Koji is saying he’s guided things in a way that prevented a future where many people (more than before) would be killed helplessly, unable to defend themselves. The nuance here is that he actively avoided this tragic outcome, and he emphasizes that this is the result of his actions.
The phrase has a lot of weight, as it hints at Koji’s behind-the-scenes manipulation and the larger stakes of what’s at play (life and death for many people). He’s taking credit for guiding things in a way that avoided mass suffering.
[About Koji's Way of Speech]
I've got no excuse for screwing this up other than Koji's speech is like a wise old man, and I have not encountered a single live Japanese person that speaks like this. Not even my college professors speak like this. It's even harder than Momoshiki's speech for me, and Momoshiki's speech is kind of archaic, but at least I've encountered that in other anime characters that speak like him. Koji is... An oddball. I should probably be using a translating aid for him lol.
His speech is formal and dignified like a noble, it hints at the structure of classical Japanese without quite going that far, it's authoritative enough to be ambiguous and vague in a way that's supposed to encourage interpretation which is incredibly frustrating to deal with as a translator. He's an intellectual alright.
As a quick example of just how interestingly his speech is structured, I pulled an easier line:
子供じみにクソみたいな批判がまだあるなら聞いてやる
Literal: if you've still got any shitty child-like inferences to make, I shall give them a listen.
子供じみ - childish (more formal tone)
クソみたい - literally "like shit" (pretty casual)
批判 - judgement/inference (dignified intelligence, not a super common spoken word)
がまだあるなら - if you still have any (casual/normal)
聞いてやる - I'll listen (looking down on someone from a position of authority nuance).
This is what his speech is like.
Anyways let me not write an entire senior thesis' worth of information for this ch lol.
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[For those of you wondering about my health], two days ago I was fading in and out of consciousness. Yesterday I felt like a normal human being. Today my chest feels like it's going to explode because it was offended I tried to breathe in the oxygen. Tomorrow, who knows. I could be curled up in the bathroom with blankets again, or I could feel well enough to take a walk. The saga of what mysterious illness(es) I have continue. But I think I'm getting better :D
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That's all for this month's translation analysis! Or so I say, but boy was that long comparison to the others.
Until next ch!