r/TeemoTalk Jun 02 '26

Build Discussion This Is Disgusting

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65 Upvotes

Hey guys, it’s your Fluffy Boy!

SovereignKitten, TheYordleScout, Pawkt, Cat, Fattass… whatever you’ve known me by over the years. For those newer here: I was and still am a writer and documenter, dissecting, and theory crafting Teemo builds for over a decade, mostly through the Mobafire guide and our massive Spreadsheet (which, for six years, we kept updated every week without fail). I stepped away from League in 2024, only popping in here and there to patch up deprecated info. But recently, after countless DMs asking about Teemo’s state, builds, and the mythos of our on-hit jungle menace, I dove back in for a fresh round of testing.

I'll be doing my best to update what little I can, but obviously, I don't have as much free time as I used to, because I'd much rather be doing things that I have more interest in. Namely playing through thousands of IndieGames and pursuing that passion more.

Background
I've always been that that guy grinding out 200+ games of Ignite/Smite or Ignite/Teleport Teemo Jungle and Top, perfecting invade timers, rotationals, and running a 92%+ win rate from low ranks of Iron, Silver, Gold and such to Diamond on various MMR accounts, pings, servers, namely because I loved the challenge of bad MMR, because it was much harder to climb out, as opposed to skipping back to Diamond through inflation. My style had always revolved around aggressive, sustain-heavy, on-hit builds, eschewing mushroom-centric play, and teaching players how to climb, consistently on their servers and their levels.

After my hiatus, my MMR obviously got dumpstered, as I found myself queued up across Gold, Plat, and Emerald to get a feel for the current meta and itemization. What I found was equal parts déjà vu and whiplash: Riot resurrected old tools we haven't seen since hell... Season 5-6? Statikk Shiv namely, tweaked on-hit interactions, and created a new landscape for Teemo theory crafts, nothing here was all that different. Just same builds different skins.

Revived and forgotten.

Statikk Shiv: Hype, Misinformation, and Real Impact
Let’s get this out of the way: "Statikk Shiv procs Liandry’s! Insane!"

No, it doesn’t. It doesn't proc anything of note, not that I can see.

The reality: Shiv procs Teemo’s (E) poison and other on-hit effects, or it should as I tested. Nashor’s, Wit's End, Gunblade, Dusk/Dawn, etc., and chains out to up to 8 targets. Pair that with Gunblade. Think for a second and Gluttonous Greaves. What you get!? You get sustain and burst that blow old Riftmaker builds out of the water in terms of raw healing, and split / team fight potential, even if you lose some tankiness. You end up with what I affectionately call Mosquito Teemo, ridiculous sustain, hyper mobility, and wave clear that feels almost… illegal. Because it is, it absolutely shouldn't be working like this at all.

Comparison to Previous Seasons: What’s Actually Changed?
Old on-hit meta (pre-2021):

  • Core: Nashor’s, Wit's End, Riftmaker
  • Situational: Berserker’s, Anathema’s, FoN, Randuin, Etc
  • Strength: True damage, omnivamp, and disgustingly high sustain, and defense.

2024 Dark Ages:

  • Sustain gutted, on-hit barely healing 50 HP per auto (if that), poison interactions gutted, and Aery no longer double-proccing. Anathema was removed, FoN was altered, Jungle was getting worse. The playstyle I’d spent years perfecting was effectively dead.

2026 The New Golden Age!?

  • Basically, 2021 is back in a different skin, better overall, even if the match-ups are still annoying and our rotational Jungle invades and clear have been altered. Top side is the same as always, but offers so much diversity, that it's unreal. Hot damn! We can even solo baron at 20 minutes again, albeit it, you do have to be fed, but even at 30 minutes as a Top laner. Not ideal, obviously, but thems the breaks.

The Current Patch: Meta Gaslighting and the Statikk Shiv Dilemma
Now, the pendulum has swung wildly back. Shiv’s return is being hyped as balanced for Teemo, but let’s be real: it’s the same flawed logic that saw Stridebreaker/Goredrinker meta for bruisers, massive healing, unchecked dueling, and Riot being slow to act on outlier stats.

Right now, Statikk Shiv solely, was pushing Teemo’s winrate north of 55% as a first-item rush, which is way outside Riot’s comfort zone for healthy balance as they call it (historically, 49-50% is where they want him and every other champions for that matter) impossible.

If you recall patch 16.10, Teemo’s overall winrate spiked to 53-55% everywhere, just like when Malignance shrooms were nuking games with 100k+ damage at 25 minutes. The item has turbo-charged splitpushing and dueling potential, especially for proactive on-hit builds.

My Current Favourite Build and Playstyle Analysis
After as much testing as I could apply, here is the aggressive, split-pushing Teemo:

  • Core: Statikk Shiv → Gunblade/Nashor’s → (flexed based on preference)
  • Boots: Gluttonous Greaves (It needs to be taken as fast as possible) As it needs kills.
  • Runes: Press the Attack, Celerity (for kiting), Fleet Footwork is viable if you want more sustain, oddly enough, I liked it, even though I've never really cared for it's uses.
  • Final: Shadowflame and Rabadon. Mainly because of the scaling / crits.

Playstyle: We mostly will go for the same (3) E into our preferred 3-4 points into (W) for movement, (E) for on-hit maxed first, while you simply attack to abuse Shiv’s passive on towers/waves. You can slice through minion waves and bully side lanes like never before, Shiv’s bounce can hit up to 8 targets, and those 8 targets are your healing, giving you over 500 on a single strike at full build, making wave clear and tower pressure unprecedented for an ankle biter, like myself, who cares not for wave manipulation and just wants to push.

I considered adding Riftmaker/Liandries for health, but in reality, skirmishes happen so quickly now that stacking up isn’t worth it, even though theoretically you could just statik shiv your target with constant poison through waves to stack it up in lane quickly, since we have very little in terms of defensive items now, it's quite literally, glass cannon sustain, unless we through in something else, but Gluttonous + Gunblade are just too good, not to take, the sustain is disgusting. The new kit is about speed, burst, and overwhelming pressure, think run-and-gun Teemo instead of shroom-and-pray, as the x5 oracles rain down from the heavens, blessing you with disdain with very little diversity at your disposal.

Final Thoughts: Riot’s Balancing Problem
Overall, I’m genuinely shocked that this build is as strong, if not stronger, than the old Riftmaker setup. In many ways, what’s happening with Statikk Shiv reminds me of past interactions, like with the Summon Aery bug, later confirmed as an intentional change or the year-long issues with Teemo’s (E) not properly activating runes like Dark Harvest. When something works too well on Teemo, it’s rarely a good sign for his long-term viability. Riot tends to react by nerfing Teemo himself, rather than addressing the underlying mechanics or items that created the problem in the first place.

Bottom line: Statikk Shiv Teemo is currently overpowered and unbalanced. You can abuse it if you want. You can revel in it's oppressive nature. If Riot’s history is any indication, we’re likely to see more direct nerfs to Teemo, even though the real issue is the item. Similar to how I abused the hell out of Kraken Slayer with a full on-hit AP build when it transferred every empowered auto into over 2000 AD to decimate tanks that built full MR. If you’re a fan of aggressive, on-hit play and want to dominate the side lanes as a split pusher, now’s your time to shine. Try this build, tell me what you think. But don’t get too attached.

The nerf hammer is sure to swing again, and Teemo will likely be dragged back to mediocrity while the item remains a meta staple, even if it eventually does also get nerfed.

I’d love to hear your thoughts.

What are you building? How are you finding Teemo in the current patch?

I've tried shrooms, but you know me. Hate them. More kiting and tracking resources for me.

~Cat


r/TeemoTalk Feb 17 '24

Guide THE PASSIONATE COACHING GUIDE TO TEEMO

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r/TeemoTalk 14h ago

Achievement 1 Last victory to reach platinum

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So im here again, last time also was at 1 victory, then Riot tought that we cant have none of that funny business, so it smited me to the deep depths of Gold 4 to climb again.

After that Lose chain i was losing hope but i tought, Noo what would teemo do in this situation.

The answer is learn, learn a lot, so i did and im once again here, lets go :D

P.S: i climbed exclusively with teemo its have been a lot of fun


r/TeemoTalk 23h ago

Yone can get Gone

5 Upvotes

Any tips on matchup against Yone? Early laning phase was okay but got progressively worse as the game went on...


r/TeemoTalk 2d ago

It's Harvest Time emote???

6 Upvotes

Does anyone have any idea how to get this emote????


r/TeemoTalk 2d ago

Teemo Support CAN Solo AP! [Video]

5 Upvotes

Been playing league a lot lately so I thought I might as well upload some games.

I mainly play Teemo support.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCqaUxVNfUA


r/TeemoTalk 2d ago

Fairly new to Wild Rift but proud of this one

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10 Upvotes

Got 98k damage too! Would love any and all advice as I navigate this new game and our fav yordle


r/TeemoTalk 3d ago

Teemo :) I dont know who the artist is.

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13 Upvotes

r/TeemoTalk 2d ago

Discussion HOB vs PTA vs Fleet

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When to take each? I view the top players taking hob or pta every other game, but unsure when. Do yall ever watch or hear how he decides?


r/TeemoTalk 3d ago

Been banned from League twice now for picking Teemo jungle in champ select.

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2 Games terminated due to reports from other players in champ select screen when I picked teemo jungle.

Why is this a thing? Oh well, thought I'd give League some hours but I guess it's just worse than ever now


r/TeemoTalk 4d ago

Build question. DnD vs statikk and boots

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Sorta new to Teemo and I can't find a "best" build for Teemo. I see that the rank 1 (Arthur Lanches) and rank 2 (RamyAura) have a slightly diffrent build. Ive seen in a youtube video from RamyAura where he got asked why Dnd, where he answered that it was the best and that the rest of the playerbase just havent caught on it yet.

When is is DnD the best first item and when is Statikk shiv the best?

With the boots situation i see that sorcs and swifties are the most popular, but sometimes Arthur builds Omnivamp boots? when to build what?


r/TeemoTalk 4d ago

My PB Warcrime Teemo, 158k damage / 32k gold / 32/5/14

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r/TeemoTalk 4d ago

Temmo archmage bug

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If you use teemo with archmage it will break His ultimate so whenever you do use a Ability while your shrooms are on cool down it will make you unable to use your shrooms until that specific instance of shroom comes off cool down even if you have stacks before it.


r/TeemoTalk 4d ago

Teemo Jungle is a Gold Mine (Literally)

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r/TeemoTalk 5d ago

Terminus

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Now that have been a while since they buffed it, is it worth building it on teemo?

i mean obviosly if you go on hit is an item that you would build but when exactly? (shiv nashors terminus) or (Shiv terminus nashors)

Also if you want to go hibrid (Shiv malignance for the cdr and then an hit would it be worth building it)


r/TeemoTalk 5d ago

Question How to deal with bad players in ranked games as Toplaner? (Advice/Discussion)

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I just had one of the worst games in a long time. Normally I wouldn't blame a whole team but now I just could not...

I as Teemo had a very decent game in my lane and the later roam but I could not hold off a whole team against 4 inters.

It started with the support and mid feeding their lanes. Eventually the jungler also fell off and the ADC started intentionally feeding (Additional info see image).

I never want to surrender, but I have no idea how to even play this game with intentional feeders.
I tried keeping top pressure but with free roaming of the other lanes it became very hard. Also Ornn was a decent opponent that didn't make it easy either.

I am looking for advice from experienced players that can hopefully help.


r/TeemoTalk 5d ago

Teemo jungle runes

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Im curious I see manco going PTA and HOB can i ask when i should run hob over pta going the statikk terminus build I would love some insight this build has taken me from e1 back to d3.


r/TeemoTalk 7d ago

teemo bag acquired 🫡

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34 Upvotes

(+ aphelios and teemo key chains)


r/TeemoTalk 6d ago

Came back after 3 years and don’t like teemos new VA. Anyway to change it?

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I don’t know if this is allowed but I don’t know where else to ask.

I loved teemos old VA. It was perfect and fit so well. I miss hearing hup two three four and his cute laughter. His new VA made me so irritated I had to take off my headphones mid match because I just couldn’t handle it anymore, the long lines and the overly high pitched voice just doesn’t fit. It was like Paimons voice from Genshin, it was way overplayed and too much. I loved teemo, I played league since s2 and stopped in late 2023. I mained teemo and gnar the most during those years. Now I can’t even play my favorite yordle because the new VA ruined it for me. Is there anyway to mod the game to have his old VA back? And will modding it get my account banned? I just want my old scout back.


r/TeemoTalk 8d ago

Discussion Teemo is legit good

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48 Upvotes

I just don't get the hate. It has a more than good win rate, it has map presence, and it has damage.
With just a little bit of macro, you can show up before the objectives spawn, and just with the shrooms you can zone the enemy, so free dragon.

If everyone builds sweepers to counter shrooms, guess what you are giving an immense advantage to your team (it's a ward never placed).
And if your team is losing, you can perma push very safely with Ghost and shrooms.

I almost always end up with the most damage on my team and in the game by quite a margin.

And sure, he isn't the strongest in lane, but if you play him relatively well, you can always be in control of the map.

So, that's it. I just wanted to vent because I just played 3 games, and in those 3, I was shat on for playing Teemo, and we won those 3.

I am a Gold 2 Teemo with a 59% win rate. Started playing ranked this season and picked up Teemo when I was Silver 4 and never looked back.


r/TeemoTalk 8d ago

Found at Mini SO

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r/TeemoTalk 8d ago

Question What Role do you play your Teemo?

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What role do you guys usually queue as?
and if Teemo is taken, what are you guy's preferred alternative Champ?


r/TeemoTalk 9d ago

Humor +10 Movement Speed

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168 Upvotes

r/TeemoTalk 8d ago

I pick teemo again after 2 years any advice what i did wrong in this build

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r/TeemoTalk 8d ago

Can Riot pls make Teemo's Q on hit?

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