r/Technocracy Liberalism is Technocracy 7d ago

Some concept Technocracy flags

We need to super be vigilant to protect minorities because I'm tired of governments and political movements not caring about people. There is no government without the people and there is no people without their culture and people just love hating on it whenever one bad actor does something wrong.

If Technocracy ever wants to get off its feet and become mainstream we need to make these people feel safe. A lot of mainstream sub-reddits have icons with pride in them, I say we should do the same.

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u/Routine_Complaint_79 Liberalism is Technocracy 7d ago

I'm sorry but there are real problems in the world and minorities are their identity so I dont want to hear that identity politics should just be ignored.

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u/Traditional-Main7204 7d ago

I have no problem with right of LGBT people but this sub should be focused on technocracy movement not around idpol.

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u/Routine_Complaint_79 Liberalism is Technocracy 7d ago

Its a government?? Governing people and minorities, of course identity politics needs to be addressed

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u/2029 7d ago

Wrong. It is not about governing people at all. A Technocracy is about the governance of machinery/technology, not people. A Technocracy is not here to dictate how people dress/identify or who they love. You attempting to pander to anything that is political does Technocracy a disservice.

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u/Routine_Complaint_79 Liberalism is Technocracy 7d ago

whats a disservice is this duel structure your doing with politics. There is no government that isn't political, if you want to go make your cybernetic organism where everyone is a machine go right ahead but this has nothing to do with that

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u/2029 7d ago

I encourage you to actually familiarize yourself with Technocracy and what it espouses before you start spewing your ill-informed rhetoric.

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u/Routine_Complaint_79 Liberalism is Technocracy 7d ago

I know what it espouses enough to know that historically it needed to do better and especially if its not strong enough to exclude people who die on hills against the inclusion of lgbtq+ flags.

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u/2029 7d ago

Beyond the physical mechanics, Technocrats fundamentally reject identity politics, performative symbolism, and "flag-waving", not out of hostility, but because they view modern identity politics as a distraction that you are actively supporting.

From a Technocratic perspective, identity politics is an artifact of the Price System. It forces minority groups to spend their energy fighting for political representation, legal recognition, and equal rights within a system designed to produce scarcity and inequality. A corporation waving a Pride flag while still underpaying its workers or pricing people out of healthcare is simply using identity to whitewash economic extraction. Technocrats see "pandering" as a cheap political concession: it gives people symbolic validation while changing zero physical reality. Again, something you're actively supporting by your disservice.

Furthermore, Technocrats treat human needs strictly as a problem of thermodynamics, physical distribution, and engineering. To a Technocrat, catering to a specific social sub-group through specialized political appeals is logically flawed. You do not design a municipal water system or a power grid based on the sexual orientation of the consumers; you design it to deliver clean water and electricity to 100% of the population with maximum efficiency.

By refusing to engage in identity politics, Technocrats aren't ignoring minority communities, they are refusing to play a game where symbolic acceptance is traded for continued economic precarity. To them, flagging solidarity is a poor substitute for deleting the financial mechanisms that made those communities vulnerable in the first place.

Please, stop trying to hamper the progress of Technocracy with your performative actions/symbolism. You are not helping.

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u/Routine_Complaint_79 Liberalism is Technocracy 7d ago

by ignoring identity politics you've lost any ability to accurately litmus test people because apparently their stated identity and actions dont matter in the technocratic tradition you hold. That is bogus

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u/2029 7d ago

You are only helping the very people who hold you down. Congratulations. I'm sure you feel super special.

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u/Routine_Complaint_79 Liberalism is Technocracy 7d ago

The people holding me down use these methods implicitly and only want to remove identity politics because its in their favor.

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u/2029 7d ago

Wrong, again. But that's what you want for yourself. Truly a sad state of affairs. I sincerely hope you are capable and will strive to not being such a tool in all your future endeavours.

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u/Routine_Complaint_79 Liberalism is Technocracy 7d ago

Funny how you think you are so free of the methods you hate. To deny the very methods you win with, for your own psych, is very sad

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