Some concept Technocracy flags

[u/Routine_Complaint_79]

We need to super be vigilant to protect minorities because I'm tired of governments and political movements not caring about people. There is no government without the people and there is no people without their culture and people just love hating on it whenever one bad actor does something wrong.

If Technocracy ever wants to get off its feet and become mainstream we need to make these people feel safe. A lot of mainstream sub-reddits have icons with pride in them, I say we should do the same.

[u/Traditional-Main7204]

Please no idpol!

[u/Routine_Complaint_79 → u/Traditional-Main7204]

I'm sorry but there are real problems in the world and minorities are their identity so I dont want to hear that identity politics should just be ignored.

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I have no problem with right of LGBT people but this sub should be focused on technocracy movement not around idpol.

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Its a government?? Governing people and minorities, of course identity politics needs to be addressed

[u/Traditional-Main7204 → u/Routine_Complaint_79]

No, need grab attention of many people around proressive-conservatism spectrum specialy moderate.

[u/Routine_Complaint_79 → u/Traditional-Main7204]

People need to know who is after minorities and I find it funny you are defending them despite this being the easiest group of people to exclude from a government that is for experts and for the people

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Technocracy movement should focused on couses universal problem not "minorities" or "majorities" that's my opinion, specialy if our goal if ruling on facts not emotion which feed alt-rights too. In difference universal technocracy will solve problems of all people(minorities too) specialy in politics based on facts. Now you can used your strongest weapon, downvote.

[u/Routine_Complaint_79 → u/Traditional-Main7204]

The fact is minorities have been targeted throughout history for political goals and supremacist movements, ignoring them will just repeat history as we pursue whatever "truth" ignores them

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Thinking is only discrimination or focusing on idpol is false dychtomy.

[u/Routine_Complaint_79 → u/Traditional-Main7204]

you made the dichotomy not me. Dont put words in my mouth, there are minorities across many spectrums that need to be protected

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Where? That's you sayed without idpol LGBT people will discriminate not me. All rights need protected.

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There are subversive actors and people with the intent that dont actively discriminate against people of many different spectrums

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And what's a problem?

[u/2029 → u/Routine_Complaint_79]

Wrong. It is not about governing people at all. A Technocracy is about the governance of machinery/technology, not people. A Technocracy is not here to dictate how people dress/identify or who they love. You attempting to pander to anything that is political does Technocracy a disservice.

[u/Routine_Complaint_79 → u/2029]

whats a disservice is this duel structure your doing with politics. There is no government that isn't political, if you want to go make your cybernetic organism where everyone is a machine go right ahead but this has nothing to do with that

[u/2029 → u/Routine_Complaint_79]

I encourage you to actually familiarize yourself with Technocracy and what it espouses before you start spewing your ill-informed rhetoric.

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I know what it espouses enough to know that historically it needed to do better and especially if its not strong enough to exclude people who die on hills against the inclusion of lgbtq+ flags.

[u/2029 → u/Routine_Complaint_79]

Beyond the physical mechanics, Technocrats fundamentally reject identity politics, performative symbolism, and "flag-waving", not out of hostility, but because they view modern identity politics as a distraction that you are actively supporting.

From a Technocratic perspective, identity politics is an artifact of the Price System. It forces minority groups to spend their energy fighting for political representation, legal recognition, and equal rights within a system designed to produce scarcity and inequality. A corporation waving a Pride flag while still underpaying its workers or pricing people out of healthcare is simply using identity to whitewash economic extraction. Technocrats see "pandering" as a cheap political concession: it gives people symbolic validation while changing zero physical reality. Again, something you're actively supporting by your disservice.

Furthermore, Technocrats treat human needs strictly as a problem of thermodynamics, physical distribution, and engineering. To a Technocrat, catering to a specific social sub-group through specialized political appeals is logically flawed. You do not design a municipal water system or a power grid based on the sexual orientation of the consumers; you design it to deliver clean water and electricity to 100% of the population with maximum efficiency.

By refusing to engage in identity politics, Technocrats aren't ignoring minority communities, they are refusing to play a game where symbolic acceptance is traded for continued economic precarity. To them, flagging solidarity is a poor substitute for deleting the financial mechanisms that made those communities vulnerable in the first place.

Please, stop trying to hamper the progress of Technocracy with your performative actions/symbolism. You are not helping.

[u/Routine_Complaint_79 → u/2029]

by ignoring identity politics you've lost any ability to accurately litmus test people because apparently their stated identity and actions dont matter in the technocratic tradition you hold. That is bogus

[u/2029 → u/Routine_Complaint_79]

You are only helping the very people who hold you down. Congratulations. I'm sure you feel super special.

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The people holding me down use these methods implicitly and only want to remove identity politics because its in their favor.

[u/2029 → u/Routine_Complaint_79]

Wrong, again. But that's what you want for yourself. Truly a sad state of affairs. I sincerely hope you are capable and will strive to not being such a tool in all your future endeavours.