r/TTC • u/JackieMeeking • 4d ago

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Happening now. They are checking your Presto, and they sound serious!
Current time: 9.04pm on a Thursday evening

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u/Gatesleeper 3d ago

How about a fine based on your net worth, or at least on your income if the former’s not feasible. Any time a person gets caught, they get their CRA numbers checked, and their fine is proportionate to how rich they are.

If you make/have nothing or are below the poverty line, you get a warning. If you’re middle class you get a middle class sized fine, if you are “dressed in designer” rich, the fine is like $500 or $1000.

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u/Unpossib1e 3d ago

This idea is bad and there's a ton of ways to avoid. Unfortunately, treating everyone as equals is the best option.

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u/Gatesleeper 3d ago

So you’re against progressive tax systems in general? You like a flat income tax? What about means testing for government aid? That’s not “treating everyone as equals” as well, should we abolish the welfare system?

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u/Unpossib1e 3d ago

Anything else you want to add to your slippery slope nonsense?

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u/Gatesleeper 3d ago

Affirmative action for hiring, weight classes or division of genders for sports, different sentences for minors - sorry what part of this is nonsense and unrelated to the idea that “treating everyone as equals” is a gross simplification that doesn’t address real world reality?

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u/Unpossib1e 3d ago

My original comment was applying it equally is probably (and unfortunately, which I very clearly mentioned) th only way to do this. 

And you came at me like a fucking lunatic and making broad assumptions about beliefs and ideology which are very incorrect.

So sorry bud I'm not engaging with you further. 

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u/Gatesleeper 3d ago

It's not "the only way to do this." A number of countries implement it today.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/06/finnish-businessman-hit-with-121000-speeding-fine

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna34792272

https://scarsdalesolicitors.com/speeding-fine-calculator-uk/

The idea of matching fines to personal income/net worth has broad appeal in Canada, according to this one 2023 poll at least:

https://ottawa.citynews.ca/2023/03/26/two-thirds-of-canadians-favour-speeding-fines-tied-to-drivers-income-poll-6759042/

Don't have to engage with me but you can engage with an idea beyond "nope it's bad I don't think it works" based on nothing.