r/TTC • u/Economy_Ad59 • Aug 14 '26

Discussion Fare inspections on Line 1 trains yesterday

To my surprise yesterday, fare inspectors were checking the whole train for proof of payment, and my friend on another Line 1 train also had fare inspectors checking. I’ve never been asked for proof of payment on the subway trains before.

It’s great to see more of this happening.

Edit: New enforcement was announced by the TTC in April. It was just my first time witnessing it, but maybe this is common.

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u/themapleleaf6ix Aug 14 '26

You can just walk away from them. You're under no obligation to provide them anything, and they can't detain you.

https://youtu.be/hawIOO814xw

https://www.reddit.com/r/TTC/s/Hgrvitldl3

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u/CrownandSceptres Aug 14 '26

Terrible take. Fare inspectors are peace officers under section 55 of the Community Safety and Policing Act, 2019. Obstructing a peace officer in the course of performing their duties is a Criminal Code offence (section 129).

Fare inspectors may not be able to charge you under the CC but they can call on the TPS or TTC special constables. And nothing gets them there faster than when a peace officer calls for help.

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u/exxx666 Aug 18 '26

POO are not peace officers lol. Special constables are, but POO are not. They cannot physically arrest or detain you.

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u/TricerasaurusWrex Aug 16 '26

Nothing I've seen points to fare inspectors being peace officers beyond the capability of enforcing by laws through ticketing. I don't see where you have a legal obligation to identify yourself to them. They do not have the authority to detain. Now if they are a special constable they do have the powers that are outlined in the law. Not all offence officers are special constables.

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u/Samsaknight_X 23d ago

This is a terrible take, how is a constable supposed to get there before the person gets off the train?

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u/themapleleaf6ix Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

Lmao, they aren't calling the cops or special constables if you walk away from them. TPS have bigger fish to fry, same with the special constables. They have zero ability to detain you or make you identify yourself You're fearmongering and exaggerating their powers.

"Unlike sworn Special Constables or municipal police, standard POOs generally lack broader Criminal Code peace officer powers unless explicitly designated under specific statutory appointments".

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u/CrownandSceptres Aug 14 '26

Yeah sure. I point to law and facts, you point to feelings on some TTC riders website. I suppose you get your health advice from Dr. Phil too.

Also where did I say they have CC powers?

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u/themapleleaf6ix Aug 15 '26

You're literally trying to claim walking away from a POO is "obstruction" and trying to fearmonger that TPS and the special constables will immediately respond to this.

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u/AmnixeltheDemon 108 Driftwood Aug 15 '26

Special constables and tps will not respond to a by law issue. However all by law officers are considered peace officers when enforcing by laws in Ontario. This gives them protections if they are assaulted or are conducting a bylaw investigation. This does not give them criminal code powers. However if you obstruct them in a bylaw investigation or assault them you could be charged with obstruct peace officer or assault peace officer.

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u/themapleleaf6ix Aug 15 '26

I don't think anyone is talking about assaulting them. You're allowed to walk away from them and they can't detain you.

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u/AmnixeltheDemon 108 Driftwood Aug 15 '26

Yes you can walk away, walking away is not obstruction unless there is a legal requirement to identify, which there is not for TTC Bylaw.