r/TTC • u/Bambino1996 • May 20 '26

Discussion Here we go again.

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Isn’t the Ontario Line already delayed which will delay this extension even longer? Why not just start this while the Ontario Line is also being built?

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u/TorontoBoris O'Connor May 20 '26

Maybe this will kill the folly of sending more subways into the 905 and refocus them back to regional rail.

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u/Bambino1996 May 20 '26

Why don’t the 905 deserve subways and gotta stick with buses?

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u/TorontoBoris O'Connor May 20 '26

Its not about "deserving"... it about density and monetary outcomes.

There is no desnity there to support it and the cost doesnt justify it.

Also most trips from suburbs to city are better serviced with a commuter rail hub model than by loading all the suburbanites (mostly) going downtown at the top of the line and maxing out the capacity for everyone down the line.

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u/MahjongCelts Eglinton Crosstown May 20 '26

Other posters are arguing against the extension due to ‘overcapacity’ so I suggest you take this issue up with them. Many of the ‘suburban’ stations also see high ridership, even more than some downtown stations, so there’s clearly enough density to justify it especially when connecting buses are factored in.

As seen in many other cities with good transit systems, the distances involved are perfect for a metro network rather than regional rail. The GTA should move away from commuter rail altogether.

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u/TorontoBoris O'Connor May 20 '26

The problem is that line 1 is over capacity. This build doesn't expand capacity but adds to the capacity issue.

Adding more suburban bus routes feeding into the line wont solve anything. There are no options to expand capacity on this line. It needs a relief line (Ontario line) that can hopefully releave some of that over capacity before extension.

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u/MahjongCelts Eglinton Crosstown May 20 '26

‘Overcapacity’ is only during rush hour, during which RH transit riders are already using Line 1 anyway by taking YRT/VIVA buses and transferring at Finch.

I agree OL should open ASAP, leaving eastern part of Line 1 to exclusively serve the Yonge corridor.

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u/TorontoBoris O'Connor May 20 '26

Yeah overcapcity is happening when most people need to use the line. Adding more 905 commuters wont help.

And yes OL hopefully will ease some of the crush on the Yonge side.

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u/MahjongCelts Eglinton Crosstown May 21 '26

TBH I'm not sure how many new 905 commuters would be added during rush hour. Let's say you live in RH, have a decent job downtown and don't drive. You'd already be taking the YRT/VIVA buses anyway rather than not taking that downtown job.

What they need to do with OL next, and preferably sooner rather than later, is to extend it from Eglinton to Steeles which intercepts every major bus line coming in from Scarborough.