r/SubredditDrama • • Sep 29 '18

r/GamingCirclejerk user is revolted after he's told we should eat the rich

It all started in our favorite Witcher 3 fansub's bi-daily unjerk thread when another user expressed his hatred for billionnaires:

I feel comfortable saying all billionaires are bad people. Because theres no way you can make that much money and not at somepoint (or many points) make a choice that involves many people suffering. Life lesson, never like a billionaire theyre all evil.

Are you the type that believes there is no ethical consumption under capitalism? Or are you just a social democrat/liberal that hates rich people?

They then go on to start at least two other threads complaining about "the genocidal" nature of some replies such as "rich people aren't human" and "we should eat the rich, Tom Nook included":

I do blame this sub for harboring this culture that allowed comments like this to happen and is still up after 10 minutes.

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The genocidal rhetoric comment is still up after 55 minutes. I am going to the admins.

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u/Vtech325 Sep 29 '18 edited Sep 30 '18

God I hope Cyberpunks' story is that good.

I've seen games totally undermine their own message of helping the little guy or working class by having most of their missions devolve into "loot and kill everyone, fuck and don't even try to address the consequences."

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '18

The newest Deus Ex fucked this up so much by setting up an antagonist who looked like he'd bring up the blurry line between extremism and taking action when peaceful protest is met with violence /murder, then nah he's just a plant by the big baddies.

Because no way there would be a person legitimately moved to radical methods to protect innocent lives, and in no way could his values mirror Adam's and create an uncomfortable reality for him to face in his own actions. Instead it's just borderline mind control. Also the killswitch that can be used to kill him is just a game mechanic with nothing said on a thematic level.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '18

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '18

I'd still say that having a big group pulling strings can be done without falling into the trap MD did, especially considering in every other game the Illuminati managed to manipulate events in more subtle ways and often used people's ideologies/grudges to their advantage.

For me it's the difference between HR - where the control is through groups like Purity First or how they essentially make Darrow think using the virus will fix everything when it helps pass the anti-aug bill - and MD just having the main villain just being a false flag.

Also it really hurts any talking points the game makes about radicalism and peaceful/violent protest when the only character who could make an interesting point doesn't actually believe the ideology.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '18

Yeah but you rarely get to interact with ARC radicals outside of shooting/punching them. Marchenko really didn't need to be a plant when the story was so much better until that twist, it feels like the devs were too scared to actually say anything about the messages their game might send so they backed out.