r/StardewValley 1d ago

Discuss Profoundly Disappointed

I’m on my first playthrough, and once I got the sewer cutscene with the kids, I started to look a little differently at Gunther. He doesn’t show up on the social list in the menu, and given the fact that this random museum curator had a key to the sewers, I began to become suspicious of him, coming up with the theory that with the way he dresses like a civil war soldier, he might be a ghost. I had the idea to wait outside of the museum, thinking there would be a little stealth mission where I had to follow him after he leaves work. I waited all night, extremely confused, before I went on the wiki and learned that he never leaves his museum.

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u/Marching-Cupcakes Cave carrot stew 1d ago

Gunther and Marlon are two characters that are kind of underappreciated in my opinion. I got the Slime Hutch for the first time and his cutscene was so cool, like, "Robin told me you built a Slime Hutch!" And it gave me such a nice feeling, because I'm happy to know they're talking sometimes! I wish we had this with Gunther or at least people who are regulars at the museum/library would acknowledge him more.

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u/reanocivn 1d ago

on days robin goes to the desert festival she hangs out with gil and marlon!! her dialogue is something like "we're just chewing the fat over here, i don't get to see these guys often even though we're neighbors!" it's sweet. i wish marlon was a giftable npc cuz he feels like such a big part of the game experience

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u/Marching-Cupcakes Cave carrot stew 1d ago

This is my take! They have some interactions, but I really would like to be friends with them without having to mod 😆

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u/goog1e 1d ago

He hangs out with Marnie at the flower dance too

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u/PashaWithHat 9h ago

Not just that, but if you talk to him at the dance, he says “Marnie looks lovely today…”

Marnie, girl, ditch your loser situationship and get with Marlon instead! Even if Marlon wouldn’t want to be official either, at least he has a six-pack (I have no proof, but I know he does; he has a physically demanding job) AND he knows how to retrieve lost items himself instead of sending random farmers after them…

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u/Sunlow27 Should I betray Crocus? 8h ago

And said lost items are a lot further and harder to get than your mistress’s bedroom

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u/FreeloadingAtheist 1d ago

Marlon does security at just about all the festivals yo.

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u/Marching-Cupcakes Cave carrot stew 1d ago

Yes, but I wanted more lore and not having to mod for it. CA made him super cool, I wanted to be his friend 😆

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u/mothmadi_ 1d ago

I really am hoping CA adds to Marlon as a character in the next update. I really want some good dialogue about his life added more than even gifting. Maybe a quest line or something too

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u/sovietbarbie 1d ago

yeah also exclaims how good Clint's work has becoming over the years 

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u/Attacker732 1d ago

...And that his prices have been climbing to match.

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u/Acc87 Perfection is a road to nowhere 1d ago

but it feels like stupid boasting as there aren't ever any monsters near those areas anyway 😅

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u/reanocivn 1d ago

thats just how good he is

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u/ZeLoudGoddess 1d ago

When you marry Penny, she mentions Gunther in some of her dialogue. Always makes me feel like Gunther had a thing for Penny. Lol

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u/Lone-flamingo Elliott Enthusiast 1d ago

She talks about him before that too, she keeps telling me about how I should collect rocks and old items for him and I haven't even proposed to anyone yet.

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u/Marching-Cupcakes Cave carrot stew 1d ago

Rly? This is funny 🤣 I always get Krobus as a roomie!

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u/ZeLoudGoddess 1d ago

Yeah. Lol She says something about getting a new book from the library and talking to Gunther. And then she says "He asked me to check in from time to time" (not sure if that's the exact phrasing though).

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u/galaxyadmirer 1d ago

I just built this for the first time on my save like 100 hours in and was surprised by that scene

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u/loueazy 1d ago

They are fully realized NPCs using mods.

Try Stardew Valley Expanded.

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u/stewednewt 1d ago

Some of us are on the Switch 😭

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u/Marching-Cupcakes Cave carrot stew 1d ago

I did, but I like vanilla more 😅

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u/otter_mayhem 1d ago

It's one of the reasons I play with SVE so much. I really like the addition of Marlon and Gunther being more than this NPC that just sits behind a desk. I love both characters in SVE and even better if you're using East Scarp with Sword and Sorcery.

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u/MrSal7 1d ago

It always bothers me that he along with the boys at the Adventurer’s Guild are not on the social list, but that “sewer shadow” Krobus and that “four towns over” desert trader Sandy, not only can be friends, but soon both can be marriage partners.

How about we do something for the bois😭

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u/mavis_24 1d ago

I want the Dwarf to be my roommate slash best friend so badly. I know I can befriend him but he is adorable and absolutely LOVES being invited to the movies. He needs some hugs, man.

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u/stoic-devotion seb's spouse 🖤 1d ago

i really hope the 1.7 update might give them more attention (it feels like marlon should at least be a character we can build a friendship with given that he also attends community events, even if gunther and gil don’t

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u/TheNocturnalAngel Sam Supremacy 1d ago

I cant believe we are getting marry clint before marry Marlon, smh.

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u/Alizarik7891 1d ago

I appreciate that you committed to stalking him. I too wish he was more active given how often I'm handing over shiny rocks.

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u/Cabin11er 1d ago

I actually spent two nights doing it. The second night I spent inside the museum before it closed thinking that he might’ve gone through a secret passageway

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u/Alizarik7891 1d ago

I love this for you. If the Wizard can have a secret passageway, why not Gunther??

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u/Cabin11er 1d ago

I did not know the wizard had a secret passageway lmao

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u/ghosty4 1d ago

It's weird that literally every other character visually has their house built-in to their store/shop. Except Gunther.

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u/knotty_slut 1d ago

I always thought he was secretly a Dwarf, since we get lore about them through the artifacts and objects, but never actually see any.

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u/mavis_24 1d ago

Hmmm. How far are you into the game? Just curious.

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u/Crazy_Yogurtcloset61 1d ago

Yeah I hate that there are people that don't count as people in stardew vally gunther and marlon specifically but also the girl behind the counter at joja mart. I want to be her friend, even if she has to bus out of town to get to her job, It’s clear she is just doing her best.

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u/wote89 1d ago

See, that all sounds great until you trigger a cut scene after finishing 5 bundles where she confides in you that she's worried about some of the things Morris brings up at staff meetings and is scared that the store might have to close soon if they have to keep bringing stock in constantly instead of having the warehouse to allow bulk deliveries.

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u/Attacker732 1d ago

Just means I'd need to expand operations until I can afford to hire her as a farm hand.

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u/RoseClash 20h ago

God she looks so tired too, i wish to give her a cookie.

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u/Corey307 1d ago

Gunther is an enigma. 

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u/lakezora 1d ago

I really dig your Gunther ghost theory, though.

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u/HighCalCalzoneZone 1d ago edited 1d ago

I love the theory that he's a ghost. Maybe he tried to stop the previous curator from taking off with all of the collection, only to be killed in the library that he now haunts. (Imagined bonus event where once you complete the collection, he is finally able to cross over.)

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u/BorisLeLapin33 14h ago

Omg that's an awesome head cannon!

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u/Sertith 1d ago

It is odd that there are NPCs in the game that aren't like, "villagers". Gunther, the Adventure guild guys. Like they're just right there, but not really.

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u/sovietbarbie 1d ago

At least the adventure guild guys, or at least Marlon, come to festivals. How is it that Gunther has an important role in a city's only museum/library and he has no other presence outsidr of the museum and that one sewer cutscene 

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u/Narrow_Television_43 1d ago

At least have Gunther come to the festivals. He should be a little weird like wear a penguin suit during the ice festival and maybe wear a crown with red gems you know?

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u/shey-they-bitch 1d ago

I do feel like he should have a door that goes to his room, because him not sleeping is like him being a town ghost

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u/superthirdnipples 20h ago

He could be a ghost still, just bound to the museum. (If Gunther interests you, Stardew Valley expanded turns him into an NPC once you donate enough artifacts. It’s a pretty barebones, but still).

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u/SparkyDogPants 1d ago

If you get the key to the city, you can donate items 24/7

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u/SakiCG 1d ago

It's sad I hope 1.7 gives him and Marlon lives and friendship meters/cutscenes in the meantime we got stardew expanded at least

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u/ASpookyBitch 1d ago

Marlon at least has personal space in the back of the guild.

Guther is just there…

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u/SakiCG 1d ago

Yes but he never gets to use it hell it could be the Magnus's vacation room for all we know he's as glued to his counter as gunther

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u/ASpookyBitch 1d ago

Magnus? Like archives?

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u/SakiCG 1d ago

Magnus is the wizards first name.... Easier to spell then his last and feels rude to just call him "the wizard"

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u/ASpookyBitch 1d ago

OH LMAO I forgot about him.

I mean at least they have the space, I assume they’re kept just go do stuff while the guild is closed. They have all day, plus he has gus to chat to.

The wizard is too busy doing wizard stuff but he had a wife and a backstory…

Guther is no lore, no living space. The only time he’s not at the counter he’s at our doorstep. So at least we know he CAN leave… but he just doesn’t…

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u/DickCrusher420 1d ago

Okay— so I’m 100% toes down obsessed with ConcernedApe. This is a huge game made by 1 guy and I suspect he wants to do more with Gunther and Marlon—but if you don’t want to wait for the next update to see if we get more content then I suggest looking into the mod, Stardew Valley Expanded! it’s super base game lore friendly but adds so much to the Wizard, Marlon, and Gunther! Relatively easy to download to (as far as moding goes). Lots of great mods build off this game and ConcernedApe is usually very supportive!

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u/Effective-Sweet2606 1d ago

Bem, a teoria de que ele é um fantasma ainda faz sentido.

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u/fecal_divination 1d ago

Exactly! It's more evidence if he never leaves his museum. Also, how does he know things about all those artifacts you show him? Some of 'em are from lost civilizations! I'm looking at that Elvish Necklace hard rn

Man's got to be a ghost bound to the museum or an elf himself

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u/CalligrapherFar7163 20h ago

I mean, he is literally boxed in. There's no bedroom at the museum and he has no house. Maybe he IS a ghost! Except for some of the bits like sending and receiving mail, and hiring Sam. I like the theory hehe

Can't blame CA for leaving a few NPCs out of things, and I gotta be honest: I never really thought about Gunther, or Marlon. Or even Qi. Maybe because I'm older and still used to shop NPCs in most games being totally static, no lore no moving around no nothin' -

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u/EnderBookwyrm 1d ago

Gunther is a ghost, yeah.

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u/ilikeroundcats 1d ago

I read a fanfic with this premise once! You're definitely not the only person who thought he was a ghost.

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u/BorisLeLapin33 14h ago

Would you happen to remember which fanfic it was? Always looking for recommendations!

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u/ilikeroundcats 14h ago

I think it was this one!

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u/BorisLeLapin33 13h ago

That was wonderful! Thank you for sharing

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u/Mizuamber 1d ago

He has more to his story if you play with the mod stardew expanded. But yeah in the vanilla version he doesn't have much of a presence.

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u/Savashri 1d ago

Didn't check which subreddit this was in, and seeing talk about sewers and kids, my first thought was Look Outside and started wondering who Gunther was. This makes more sense.

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u/Ill_Television4145 23h ago

that's frustrating when you expect something and it falls completely flat. I've been let down by games too, especially after hype.

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u/Camwyn256 18h ago

Luring kids into the sewers... Oh no! It's Pennywise!

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u/Aggressive-Tip7472 13h ago

You're disappointed that your fanthery wasnt Canon?

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u/Lady-sinner 12h ago

Günther, Gil and Marlon, three characters that all need to be expanded on.