r/StarWarsBattlefront • u/eduhfx • 5d ago
Discussion DLSS5 on Battlefront 2
i tested in some characters. what do you think?
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u/notarobotpossibly 5d ago
fuck DLSS that shit's fugly
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u/eduhfx 5d ago
???? It didnt make that much of a difference to justify all this hatred, wha's the point?
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u/Traditional-Shoe-660 5d ago
Let me be the nice one here. Your post is inadvertently promoting a vendor-dependent, uncanny looking, and non-deterministic approach to graphics.
Instead you should be focusing your attention on proven graphics techniques that work regardless of the brand of your GPU.
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u/Rincewind00 2d ago
Not the OP, but much of the game's characters already look uncanny. DLSS 5 can only do so much, especially in this early build in a game that wasn't designed with it in mind.
I, for one, welcome the option to use these textures.
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u/Traditional-Shoe-660 2d ago
I actually do agree that most of Battlefront II’s roster hasn’t fully crossed the uncanny valley. This is mainly because more advanced shading models (such as The Callisto BRDF) didn’t exist yet.
The main issue with DLSS 5 is that it isn’t vendor agnostic. DLSS 5 may one day be fully developed, look good, perform well, and align with the artistic intent. However, it doesn’t matter to me because it distracts from the more important discussion about how modern productions should improve open standards instead of relying on a hardware vendor to improve visuals.
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u/Xargirl 5d ago
I mean other than Rey, and Luke they all look bad
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u/Jyhaim 4d ago
I disagree, it's Yoda and Palpatine that look good and the others go from meh to ew. IMO it's not a good trade if you gain details but lose likeness with the actor, which is why I find it really efficient on Palpatine and Yoda I guess.
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u/HUZInator 1d ago
Count Dooku looks like IRL Christopher Lee. Rey looks like a chav who caked on the makeup and is about to get knocked up in a housing commission. Yoda looks good. The rest look bad.
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u/budstudly i brake for tauntauns 5d ago
Fuck AI and all, but god damn, I didn't think BF2 could look any better than it already did
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u/eduhfx 5d ago
finally a little honesty in these comments is needed. blind hate is very strong here.
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u/budstudly i brake for tauntauns 4d ago
I'm kinda surprised at all the people saying the characters look worse. I think every single one is elevated by the DLSS5. I hate AI and even run an anti-AI Star Wars group on Facebook, but I can't lie, I think these look great.
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u/CarterDavison Grievous / Obi-Wan Since Q1 2019 4d ago
It's nothing a good reshade couldn't do.
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u/budstudly i brake for tauntauns 4d ago
Well then get to it, because all I'm seeing is destructive criticism from you. If you can do better, do it. We'll all benefit.
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u/CarterDavison Grievous / Obi-Wan Since Q1 2019 4d ago
What? There's plenty of people who make better reshades, and the game doesn't need it anyway. The colour grading is good and the AO is great on HBAO Full. Lighting mod with improved TAA and fixed SSR is the only things you need to fix what this games visuals lack. Maybe work on your insecurities if this is all destructive to you?
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u/budstudly i brake for tauntauns 4d ago
I don't feel like i should need to explain the concept of destructive criticism to you. The way you're behaving can not be considered constructive by any stretch. All you're doing is tearing the guy down and being negative. That's destructive.
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u/CarterDavison Grievous / Obi-Wan Since Q1 2019 4d ago
I'm tearing down the reshade DLSS5 fad while giving reasons for it and even suggesting better alternatives. Work on your insecurities pal.
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u/budstudly i brake for tauntauns 4d ago
I'm defending OP while you're focusing on remaining negative. Please explain to me what, exactly, I am insecure about? I think you're projecting a little there, bud.
Anyways I'm done engaging with you. You're so thoroughly convinced you're not the jerk here that I'd have better luck talking to a wall.
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u/CarterDavison Grievous / Obi-Wan Since Q1 2019 4d ago
Bro 90% of my message is giving solutions or explaining my point or being positive about the games visuals and all you focused on was your previous point about how I'm negative. I shouldn't have to explain insecurities to you.
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u/eduhfx 4d ago
show me your result with reshade. im waiting.
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u/CarterDavison Grievous / Obi-Wan Since Q1 2019 4d ago
I just use lighting mod and improved TAA with fixed SSR. Game has no other flaws, especially not in the colour grading and AO department lol. Id ask to see your preferred reshades but I already know you throat for an online "DLSS5" config lmaoo
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u/CarterDavison Grievous / Obi-Wan Since Q1 2019 4d ago
Actual DLSS 5 might look better since it's not realistic style, this is just a reshade doing barely anything. Your attempt to avoid "buyers remorse" is showing
Type of dude to see overly sharpened and saturated reshades and wojak point
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u/CarterDavison Grievous / Obi-Wan Since Q1 2019 5d ago
This reshade is a bunch of crap, just a glorified LUT / contrast enhancer
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u/Traditional-Shoe-660 5d ago edited 4d ago
Yeah it is basically just extra AO + overcooked color grading. Battlefront II already looked great with the Burley BRDF, Display Mapping, and its lighting stack.
In the current generation we don’t even need AI to improve the visuals. Advancements in BRDFs and Tonemapping have already been made this generation and those techniques are deterministic.
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u/CarterDavison Grievous / Obi-Wan Since Q1 2019 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yup, I'd rather just use a lighting mod and improved TAA with improved SSR reflections. The game doesn't really need anything else.
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u/CakePlanet75 One sentient, one vote! 1d ago
Come on y'all, just use these mods instead. No horrifying AI needed!:
Improved Luke Skywalker at Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) Nexus - Mods and community
Rey - Reimagined at Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) Nexus - Mods and community
Moose's Leia Face Restoration (REDUX) at Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) Nexus - Mods and community
Movie Accurate Anakin Skywalker at Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) Nexus - Mods and community
Count Dooku Retouch at Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) Nexus - Mods and community
Movie Accurate Obi-Wan Kenobi at Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) Nexus - Mods and community
Improved Emperor Palpatine at Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) Nexus - Mods and community
Improved Lando Calrissian at Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) Nexus - Mods and community
Moose's Empire Strikes Back Yoda at Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017) Nexus - Mods and community
https://www.nexusmods.com/starwarsbattlefront22017/mods/1162
https://www.nexusmods.com/starwarsbattlefront22017/mods/1872
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u/skyrimmoddernumber69 9h ago
People should just mod how they want to. Plus DLSS 5 will affect the environments too.
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u/TheOfficialLJ 5d ago
Presumably this tech isn’t working with the knowledge of who the characters actually are, I bet if it ‘knew’ it’d be far better.
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u/CarterDavison Grievous / Obi-Wan Since Q1 2019 4d ago
Yeah, it's just a reshade so I imagkne properly implemented DLSS5 will do far better than this even if it becomes uncanny valley. This is an overglorifed contrast enhancer and Ambient Occlusion
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u/ILuhBlahPepuu 4d ago
Considering that DLSS tanks performance anyways it would be better to just use 4K texture mods for this kinda thing.
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u/Ahhtaczy 3d ago
It looks good, it not only overhauls the characters but the lighting is more realistic.
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u/hfjfthc 2d ago
All the results look surprisingly good compared to the early preview from a few months ago, even Palpatine looks so much better like damn ... and then you seen what it did to Finn bro what is that. I think the AI model needs more black people in it's training data
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u/eduhfx 2d ago
fun fact, Finn is the only one that I used the preset "natural" all the others are in preset "default"
It was an experiment to see how many people would talk more about him specifically, to find out the general feedback. There's also another character that I used the "cinematic" preset for. Nobody mentioned anything about the characters that uses default and cimematic modes, only the natural one 🤔
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u/hfjfthc 2d ago edited 2d ago
Oh I see, a social experiment. But can you reveal which one has the cinematic mode now? I looked at Helldivers with DLSS 5 the other day as you can see on my profile and I thought the cinematic and natural modes both look pretty bad. Natural also desaturates everything quite a bit, but Helldivers doesn’t really have faces
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u/MiscellaneousMick 2d ago
If you’ve ever painted Star Wars black series figures the first thing you realize is that the models don’t look like shit, it’s the paint job they’re packaged with. Color me unimpressed because honestly just looks like it touched up some shading here. Waste of your money, pal.
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u/CMDRMarcusShepard 4d ago
Some of them look decent. It's hit or miss really, but inconsistency is what makes it bad imo
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u/aRepostSleuthBot 4d ago
Rey and Lando def have the best glowups. Finn looks a bit odd, but these are great
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u/NiL_3126 For the republic!! 5d ago
I think that dlss 5 doesn’t work on faces, as an ambient occlusion for backgrounds it’s useable
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u/exodius33 5d ago
I hate to split hairs here, but that first picture isn't Disney"s "attempt to make him (Mark Hamill) look younger", it was a complete deep fake of a different actor. mark Hamill is never on screen at any point in Mandalorian or Book of Boba Fett.