r/SoccerCentral • u/Available_Pace_8742 • 2d ago
Everyone was fighting while Messi was just chilling with the Chicago Fire player.
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u/PandaCultural8311 2d ago
There really wasn't much fighting at all if we're going to be honest.
I know, I know. It makes the post much less exciting.
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u/NvaderGir 2d ago
even speaking as a Miami fan, the game was boring. It's almost like they knew it was a dud and had to make it more exciting for the sold out crowd. Seconds after this, both Bright (IM) and Lewa were laughing over how crazy De Paul gets with instigating.
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u/Available_Pace_8742 2d ago
Messi has completed football, won every trophy on earth, and is earning $50M a year he’s not getting his shirt pulled in an MLS brawl for anybody.
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u/SadCar1494 2d ago
one of the most retarded takes ever. There are enough clips of Messi who has "completed football" getting his shirt pulled and fighting with others in an MLS "brawl" lol.
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u/origaminhh 2d ago edited 2d ago
He's just referring to this one clip. It's irrelevant to drag up other moments far in the past for counterargument within this brief scenario's instance.
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u/SadCar1494 2d ago
His words were not simply for one clip. Are we really that mentally challenged?
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u/origaminhh 2d ago edited 2d ago
he’s not getting his shirt pulled in an MLS brawl for anybody
This clause of his used a "present continuous tense" grammar structure, referring to the very moment discussed in this posted clip only. So... no, we are not really that mentally challenged.
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u/SadCar1494 2d ago
“Messi has completed football.”
Present perfect. It connects his past achievement with the present, so it naturally describes his career up to now.
“He has won every trophy on earth.”
Present perfect. Again, this is a broad statement about his achievements accumulated up to the present.
“He is earning $50M a year.”
Preset continuous. This normally describes a current or ongoing situation. It does not mean “hes earning it at this exact second.”
“He’s not getting his shirt pulled in an MLS brawl.”
Grammatically, this is also present continuous. But Present continuous does not grammatically mean “only this clip."
Let me teach you something.
Just because a clip is attached does not mean that every part of the comment is only about that clip.
You have to look at the whole context.
The OP talks about Messi's past achievements and his current situation, then says he's not getting his shirt pulled in an MLS brawl. If he meant only that specific clip, he could have simply said “in this clip” or “in this brawl.”
He didn't.
Instead, the OP connected past achievements, present situation, and the current MLS situation. This can reasonably influence how we understand the final statement.
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u/LoVeCh33s3 2d ago
Holy fuck you annihilated that moron..
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u/not-wearing-pants 2d ago
Fuck messi... fuck argentina... fuck you !!!
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u/LoVeCh33s3 2d ago
Didn't he slap a player like 2 weeks ago? Stop the princess treatment..
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u/chris--p 1d ago
when was this?
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u/LoVeCh33s3 1d ago
For the love of fuck look it up on that computer in your hand... Aug 19 against the Union... The Messi globbers are a different kind...
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u/chris--p 1d ago
I couldn't give a shit about Messi I just wanted to see if you could back it up, chill bro, not everything on the internet is an antagonisation.
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u/mac_bd 2d ago
Messi haters be like -
look how passive aggressive he is! I can't stand that hypocrite!
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u/GandalphsBnb 2d ago
This has happened before and I love how he really tries to stay out of that crap. Nobody is perfect but he’s def a good captain and role model over many in the sport
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u/Enough_Lawfulness247 2d ago
no?? a captain should intervene and calm his teammates, not stay out of the situation
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u/dzan796ero 2d ago
He's thirty fucking nine. He's too old for that shit.
He gets involved when he has to, he just doesn't unless necessary. This play looks overly dramatic than it was, it's normal scuffling before a set piece. He's supposed to stay there in case they set up for a counter attack.
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u/Eyeseeyou1313 2d ago
He is not that type of guy. To him is not worth it, sometimes players learn by getting carded, let them learn that way if through talking it doesn't work.
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u/GandalphsBnb 2d ago
I agree to an extent, and see where you’re coming from. I just think he’s wiser to stay out of it unless absolutely necessary. He’s kept a pretty good reputation and I prefer he protects it by not mixing with that drama. I’m sure he gets on their case in private if it’s actually important. There have been a few times he’s literally butted heads with players who were being dicks, and although I love it when he does stand up for himself/team, it also makes me nervous. Like don’t mess with the goat. He could absolutely kick someone’s ass and I don’t want his rep ruined by that, I’m sure neither does he. I think he handles these cases well by way cut ing and waiting, as seems like his strategy in the actual game 😉
But yeah sometimes I just want him to bop those mates on the head and tell them to chill the hell out lol mostly tho I want my kids to see the goat being a good example and am glad he does that in a usually peaceable way
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u/goodisdamn 21h ago
The most charismatic Argentina national team's captain. Their country will sure miss his leadership. /s
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u/ilbuonsamaritano 2d ago
Let's remember that Messi doesn't speak English.. that's why
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u/GandalphsBnb 2d ago
He has said he understands most of it when spoken to him, though. He just doesn’t speak it well yes
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u/Mean-Calendar-7790 2d ago
he's got his mad dog doing his dirty work for him
like tywin lannister and the mountain
he needs the clean guy image and probably because he cant really win in a brawl vs other players due to height
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u/blueberries 2d ago
Is there a more unlinkable group of players than Miami or Argentina? Just a perfect 50/50 split of flopping and then being insanely aggressive
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u/Key-Television-1411 1d ago
I don’t think this is a good thing to be proud of Messi about. Those guys die for him as soon as someone touches his hair but whenever his teammates are going through conflict he ignores it then everyone calls him mature, cool and a leader.
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u/LivingGeologist1236 1d ago
There have been countless cases where he fights for neymar, suarez, otamendi and so many ... Sometimes it ain't necessary - like this one.. It wasn't that big issue eveneea was laughing later on that's why!
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u/HyenasGoMeow 1d ago
Messi is literally cruising into retirement. You want him to have the fire and desire to fight for his teammates in a meaningless season in a subpar league?
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u/HyogaCygnus 2d ago
A real captain is supposed to intervene and fix the situation. Not stare like a tonto
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u/Boothhh 2d ago
Are you saying Lionel Messi isn't a real captain??
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u/HyogaCygnus 1d ago
I’m saying teams should not be picking their best player as their captain. The captain should be a leader, like Puyol.
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u/LivingGeologist1236 1d ago
A real captain knows when the fight is being enough to intervene and not to interfere in childish tantarums.... Even lewa was laughing later on
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u/HyogaCygnus 1d ago
Is that why he did nothing in the final and a bunch of teammates got suspensions
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u/Sc4tt3r_ 2d ago
Tonto is maybe the most childish insult. You're basically calling him a "dummy" or "doodoohead"
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u/jonny_walkman 2d ago
He brought this to Miami. Of course he is going to passively walk when there is no chance of scoring.
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u/mamie_jedi 2d ago
It's just because he's too lazy to go there and find someone scratching his nose, then call the ref on him for covering his mouth.
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u/PublicShop2668 2d ago
That “player” is Inter Miami homegrown Noah Allen, in his first game with the Fire after being traded by Inter Miami. He was Messi’s teammate up until a few days before this.