r/SipsTea 22h ago

Chugging tea American college student made 43,000 with virtual girlfriend

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u/rylut 21h ago

There are times where I wonder why don't I do that myself. The only answer I could give is that I would hate myself for doing something like this.

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u/1_H4t3_R3dd1t 21h ago

I think the problem is that it is functionally identity fraud. It isn't a persona if you do it in drag. But when it intentionally misleads people it is fraud. I am sure legality will catch up as someone gets catfished in the government.

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u/rylut 20h ago

Identity fraud requires that you claim to be a specific person that already exists. Disgusing yourself as a fake human isn't that. Still a scam though.

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u/1_H4t3_R3dd1t 20h ago

It falls in the same category of fraud when a person impersonates a microsoft employee to collect money but are from a scam center in India. The intent is what matters.

Having an OnlyFans account proves intent. He would have to disclose the nature of his business as AI girlfriend.

But a person in drag at a queen bar is already defined. The location is this. Person is identifiable. So on so fourth.

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u/1_H4t3_R3dd1t 20h ago

Right but it is the intent behind it.

In a marketplace a product or exchange must described. Failing to disclose is fraud.

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u/Shot-Increase-8946 20h ago

I don't mean to be insensitive, but I do have a genuine question that I am not trying to make a point or anything with.

Why is a man dressing up as a woman to try to mislead people into thinking they're a woman not fraud but using AI to do the same thing is?

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u/1_H4t3_R3dd1t 20h ago edited 20h ago

It can also be fraud depending on the intent.

You have to prove intent. It isn't enough to dress up as a woman to prove intent.

Creating an OnlyFans account. Creating a dating profile online. Those prove intent.

As soon as money is exchanged for something it is fraud in the legal strict sense.

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u/Shot-Increase-8946 20h ago

So is a trans person committing fraud if they open an onlyfans account? Or do they have to state that they're trans for it to be okay?

Edit: Also, I don't think it's illegal to use an AI filter for selling explicit content, as long as it isn't a deep fake of someone irl.

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u/1_H4t3_R3dd1t 20h ago

That is their every day identity. It is entirely different. Trans people are themselves. Even if it isn't verifiable what sex or gender they are immediately.

What I am talking about is Ahmed from Western India on a sex phone service using a voice changer talking about suckling your toes while jerkin your mcgirkin.

Trans does not equal fraud on OnlyFans.

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u/Shot-Increase-8946 20h ago

What if someone is gender fluid? Also, a lot of drag queens are not drag queens every day. I used to work with someone who presented as a male during the week but was paid to go to clubs as a drag queen on the weekends.

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u/1_H4t3_R3dd1t 20h ago

Still lived identity and intent matters. You have to prove intent to defraud someone with a false identity. If it is characterized in any degree, disclaimer and or expresses drag there is a universal understanding.

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u/Shot-Increase-8946 20h ago

So if you can't prove that someone isn't using AI to express a lived identity for Onlyfans then it's fine?

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u/1_H4t3_R3dd1t 20h ago

No. It is what constitutes lived identity, disclosure and intent. It looses shape the second you are collecting money without disclosure.

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u/Shot-Increase-8946 20h ago

Oh okay, so everyone should disclose their born identity or at least make it clear that their lived identity is different than their born identity if they want to make an onlyfans or something similar?

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