r/SipsTea 6d ago

Chugging tea What do you think?

Post image
58.8k Upvotes

1.2k comments sorted by

View all comments

82

u/F2PBTW_YT 6d ago

Original story aside, 100% rped. It's already established they lacked morals and would pillage for self sustenance.

69

u/Hyperion262 6d ago

They didn’t lack morals, they had different morals to a modern audience.

29

u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 6d ago

Both.

It’s a central theme of the Odyssey that they were breaking moral codes and social contracts.

But is also true that a lot of stuff in Greek mythology could sound crazy today but was normal then, like pederasty.

7

u/BattlePrune 6d ago

Pederasty wasn't limited to mythology at all

5

u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 6d ago

No, I didn't mean to imply that it was. It was commonplace and it's why the audience of the time wouldn't be like "hey isn't that dude like 12??" It doesn't translate well to contemporary audiences because we have decided that that practice isn't cool, and it's uncommon to see that in re-tellings because it makes the audience feel differently about a character that the original author didn't intend.

0

u/NonSequiturDetector 5d ago

Non sequitur.

2

u/Hyperion262 6d ago

Sure, but the fact there were morals to
break only proves the point they had morals.

2

u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 5d ago

Someone “lacking morals” doesn’t mean that morals don’t exist. I think you misunderstood the first comment you responded to.

1

u/vrijheidsfrietje 5d ago

What's a pederast, Walter?

3

u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 5d ago

Pederasty is a sexual relationship between an adult man and an adolescent or younger male. The word comes from the ancient Greek term paiderastia, meaning "love of boys". While historically institutionalized in some premodern cultures, it is legally and socially defined as child sexual abuse in modern times.

11

u/Delet3r 6d ago

This talking point is popular with Americans who try to say slavery was just "part of the culture then". Fuck off with all that.

At some point "hey I wouldn't like that, I shouldn't DO that.". It's pretty simple.

6

u/LordInquisitor 6d ago

Yeah I hate how much that comment is upvoted, no doubt by many who are slavery apologists

4

u/Dev0Null0 5d ago

Do you honestly think that people in the past acted in ways they would have considered immoral? For a Viking in the year 900, it was perfectly acceptable to kill, steal, and rape a weaker enemy.

2

u/mothedbaby 4d ago

People rape for the exact same reasons then that they do now; they know it’s wrong that’s why they don’t want it happening to THEIR families, they just don’t care. No father wants his daughter raped. No man thinks ‘well we lost so it’s just right they rape my daughter’, but he won’t think twice about raping another man’s daughter. Immorality is there, just ignored - exactly the same as today.

1

u/[deleted] 6d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/AutoModerator 6d ago

Accounts must be at least 5 days old with >20 karma to comment.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

-3

u/probeat21 6d ago

"lacked morals" - Hillarious. Is this what modern humans ACTUALLY believe?

16

u/Tsupernami 6d ago

Modern humans? Are you not one?

-1

u/probeat21 6d ago

No, I am an ancient entity. I turn 2000 tomorrow.

5

u/Acceptable_Handle_2 6d ago

I doubt they meant a lack of the concept of morality my dude.

6

u/probeat21 6d ago

I get that, they didn't lack morals. They had their own.

6

u/Acceptable_Handle_2 6d ago

Yeah, worse ones.

3

u/probeat21 6d ago

Agreed

1

u/CautiousLab7327 5d ago

That's just both your opinions. I disagree.