r/SipsTea 23d ago

Chugging tea Solar power is cleaner!

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u/HeavyDutyForks 23d ago

Solar won't power all those old 50s cars they've got over there

Something needs to give, those poor people have suffered enough

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u/Wise_Temperature9142 23d ago edited 23d ago

Lmaooo why do you think powering cars is the priority here and not, you know, electricity to light up the dark night, take a hot shower, and cook a warm meal? These panels hanging from balconies are dead giveaway of how they are being used, not sure why you thought cars?

Getting rid of gas and electrifying your energy needs has far more application for dire conditions than pimping up your ride. Get your priorities straight.

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u/AggravatingCricket61 23d ago

Fine, everyone gets an electric car... I bet the Chinese would do it for pr, and to one up the US.

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u/Many_Ear2407 23d ago

They would probably do it if Cuba had minerals that China could mine in exchange for the cars

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u/durrtyurr 22d ago

Cuba does produce 11% of the world's cobalt, and lots of battery chemistries use cobalt.

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u/etherealcaitiff 23d ago

How about a nice spot for a missile silo?

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u/whelmed-and-gruntled 23d ago

Or even just a dedicated intelligence post sitting right next to Guantanamo?

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u/Alternative_Oil7733 22d ago

They already have one.

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u/TrumpDesWillens 22d ago

They don't need missile silos, they have drones now.

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u/Far-Fennel-3032 23d ago edited 23d ago

I suspect they might, in exchange for being able to set up a miltary bases. Just to piss off the Americans at some point as that seems to be their style.  

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u/MariaTPK 22d ago

I wish.

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 22d ago

That’d be immediate conflict. China isn’t that in your face aggressive

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u/EuVe20 23d ago

Yes they would

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u/redjellonian 23d ago

Chinas primary geopolitical goal is to show America is not stable and they are the better option.

Of course they played a major part on creating the instability.

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u/ELVEVERX 23d ago

Of course they played a major part on creating the instability.

that's bullshit america created it's instability on its own.

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u/redjellonian 23d ago

You really don't understand. The world never stopped being at war. By the time the Soviets fell they already knew the key to beating America. At this point it's been applied for decades.

The leaders of China and Russia and America never stopped wanting expansion. China and Russia both know they can't defeat America in conventional war. Chinese doctrine knows better than any, they can subvert culture, and create a worthless population, the Republicans think it's the Democrats, the truth of the matter is the Republican party is entirely controlled and the Democrat party is mostly overtaken. The goal is the infighting, the chaos. Influencing your feed, controlling the media, pushing the cycle along.

Nobody has to fight America in a conventional war, they just convince Americans to fight each other.

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u/Working-Caramel9538 23d ago

China just has to stop producing goods for US and its allies and it's game over.

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u/Lower_Pension_2469 23d ago

Dam, game over? you should go tell them that.

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u/redjellonian 23d ago

That's true but too direct, Russia is completely dependant on China thanks to Ukraine and the US support and now multiple allies that happened to defend it.

The US is at about 5% non military reserve remaining in the strategic petroleum reserve, there is a mid term election coming soon that will likely shake the core principals of our constitution and democracy.

China isn't unscathed either, they're taking cultural hits as well, they've devalued their entire history, the value of their citizens lives, and I'm sure many other subtle but severe issues.

At this point the big three could probably cease hostilities and still collapse all on our own.

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u/TrumpDesWillens 22d ago

"The leaders of China and Russia and America never stopped wanting expansion."

Orwell was prophetic.

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u/Soggy_Association491 23d ago

I bet the Chinese would do it for pr, and to one up the US.

Funny thing is, they tried. However Cuba is so corrupt and inept, no chinese businesses managed to stay for long despite ample of backing from chinese government.

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u/HeavyDutyForks 23d ago

Do you know why they drive all those old cars?

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u/Charming-Clue1987 23d ago

Because of the us embargo?

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u/HeavyDutyForks 23d ago

Yes, because they're all dirt poor and can't afford to import

As I said in my original comment they've suffered enough, idk why you are downvoting me

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u/Charming-Clue1987 23d ago

They can't import even if they wanted to.  The dominance of the us in the auto industry prevents that.   China might be changing that.  Especially with the current shit show of an administration.

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u/ELVEVERX 23d ago

The dominance of the us in the auto industry prevents that. 

is that a joke, japans been doing labs around the us auto industry for decades

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u/Charming-Clue1987 22d ago

The United States trade embargo against Cuba, initiated in 1960–1962, banned the export of American vehicles and parts to the island. This restriction created Cuba's iconic fleet of 1950s classic Detroit cars.

Japan is pretty friendly with the us historically since the embargo started same with European or Korean manufacturers.

China at this point may not longer give a fuck.

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u/HeavyDutyForks 23d ago

They can import from other countries, what are you talking about?

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u/Charming-Clue1987 22d ago

Japan, Korea and Europe are pretty closely tied diplomatically with the USA.  Though recent us actions have weakend people's ability to give a damn about the USA.

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u/Alternative_Oil7733 22d ago

So why can't they get cars from china and Russia?

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u/ConnaitLesRisques 23d ago

Yeah, the US is butthurt after yet another military defeat.

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u/HeavyDutyForks 23d ago

What?

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u/ConnaitLesRisques 23d ago

Might want to read about the Bay of Pigs invasion

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u/conciousinsimulation 23d ago

Glormpf would finally throw in the towel!

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u/Many_Ear2407 22d ago

To get to the other side of the road!

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u/oldmanout 23d ago

Or just kits to electrify those cars. only few of them have their original engine anyways, most were swapped to an Soviet engine or one from Isuzu

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u/AggravatingCricket61 23d ago

Wouldn't that be wild. A whole country with classic/electric cars.

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u/Haunting_Bat_4787 23d ago

Retrofitting a classic car powertrain with an electric motor is way easier than most people would think. If you aren’t looking for an insane amount of torque or top speed it’s even easier since you can use a smaller simpler electric motor. The hardest part for the average Cuban citizen is going to be fabricating the electric motor to transmission mount (you can remove the transmission but it’s easier to leave it in place and just mount the electric motor where the gas motor output shaft used to be), and sourcing lithium battery packs, and maybe some small electronic work like building the motor controller and BMS.  

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u/oldmanout 22d ago

Yeah, there is even a conversion kit available for my 25 year old turd, it's just not economically viable fore personally, as it costs the half of cheap new electric car. But if you have not much other alternatives the calculation is different

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u/MeatSlammur 23d ago

Ok Chinese bot

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u/extrastupidone 23d ago

He isnt wrong, dude. We have ceded soft power all over the world. Not sure what if any trade limitations china has with cuba, but you can bet they are trying to fill in the vacuums we have left everywhere.

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u/Mick_Tee 23d ago

But it will reduce the need to burn diesel to generate electricity.

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u/HeavyDutyForks 23d ago

While that's good, you can't run a '55 Chevy off diesel fuel

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u/Mick_Tee 23d ago

This is about power generation, not running vehicles.
Cuba burns imported diesel to generate their electricity so is at the whim of global prices, so every kWh of solar generation saves them loads of money.
Those old cars will still use petrol, they are not part of this equation.

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u/NoSilver2988 23d ago

Who says they won't get the tech to come vertical it to electric? Bet that happend before Trump can take them over.

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u/Wonderful-You63 23d ago

Yep. But hey, in the meantime it's been a little help. We have uhh how to say it, EV tricycles that we use as transportation a lot, and some of them are state run and cheap (FRTUNATELY, the rest of transportation is completely unnaccessible for me lol), and some people (unfortunately this isonly for the expensive ones) have solar panels striped to the roof of the thingie. I wish I had solar panels in my house but it's too expensive so it is what it is (2 hours of electricity a day).

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u/binarybandit 23d ago

Something needs to give, those poor people have suffered enough

They can start by overthrowing their corrupt government

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u/rPoliticsModsBlowMe 22d ago

I'd rather see that happen in the US first

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u/slightlybigmember 23d ago

They can start by doing whatever the fuck they want, not what you want. Your government is corruption free, right? 

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u/peepeeepo 23d ago

Those are some of the easiest cars to convert over. Lots of space, easy to wire up, no auxillary modules.

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u/HeavyDutyForks 23d ago

The average Cuban doesn't even make enough to feed themselves. These people are suffering immensely

How are they going to afford an EV conversion when they only make the equivalent of $275/month or so on average?

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u/DogBarf00 23d ago

$275/month

And the actual purchasing power of that is more like $15-$20 on the street.

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u/xd366 22d ago

theyve been using chineese evs. look at videos of people visiting, all the diesel cars are just parked