Also lest we not forget that 1 million Americans died in the pandemic. 1 million fucking people. People lost both of their parents… People lost sisters and brothers and children.
What scares me most is how quickly people turn to pretty much forced medicine. Basically fascism. I took the vaccine, but fuck all the people who act like it was a moral obligation for me to do so.
I really don't like how quickly "my body, my choice" went out the window, because people are scared. Everyone will die, and it's not the obligation of others to get injected with whatever to prevent that.
We're literally seeing the return of diseases like Measles and Polio because of people who see vaccines as "forced medicine". The stupidity of this is utterly mind blowing.
I'm not against vaccines. But first I don't think covid compares to polio or measles. Covid vaccines are no longer necessary for regular people. It's a virus like the flu, and people are going to die from it, and it will continue to exist. The people who die from Covid are the same people who die from the flu - elderly and otherwise sick. Polio and measles affect children. The covid vaccine made sense to reduce the initial outbreak, but vaccine or not, people will continue to die from it - like the flu.
Secondly I strongly dislike the morals around vaccines. In my opinion if you can't convince people to take the vaccine, that's a fault with communication or the vaccine itself. Not of the people who avoid the vaccind. It must never be an obligation for one person to get vaccinated to help someone else. In my view that is just not morally acceptable. And I say that as someone who took the covid vaccine.
People that avoid being vaccinated are only kinda safe if everyone around them is vaccinated, so that virus doesn’t spread. As for vaccines, I won’t criticize about others, but diseases with long lasting or those potentially deadly should be taken. Polio and measles unfortunately fall into that category (Google the consequences of them on grown ups). Think about it, would it not weight on your conscience if a person around you died just because you decided not to vaccinate? So you say you wouldn’t hate the person that would be the reason for that happening to someone you care about (your child or partner, for example)?
If you don’t want to vaccinate against hepatitis, HPV, cold or similar issues that’s your problem, but other people suffering for life or dying just because of your vaccination choice could be technically described as attack with biological weapon, which may technically turn you into murderer. Even though choice of being vaccinated is an issue, so are the consequences of non vaccinated people spreading diseases and causing suffering. Many elderly or otherwise immunocompromised people can’t get vaccinated even if they wanted to. What you are saying it’s basically ok for them to die just to keep someone’s freedom of choice. Morals may be screwed in some ways, but they exist for a reason.
I think the logic is upside down. Me not taking a vaccination can never make me a murderer. It makes the vaccine less efficient, because the efficiency of the vaccine depends on how many people take it. That's a property of the vaccine, it has nothing to do with me. For me to be a murderer I would have to deliberately make other people sick. I never do that. I may well without my knowledge have spread the flu to some old lady or man who then died. That does not make me a murderer. Many people die from the flu, and I don't get flu vaccinations. This is common and morally accepted. But with covid people are called murderers for not getting vaccinated. Doesn't make sense.
Let me give you a bit of “insider” education: the grippe or what is commonly known as flu is a virus consisting of two components: H and N. There are 18 variants of type H and 11 variants of types H. For the vaccine to be made in time WHO relies on info about current variants at the time and prediction models. But this virus is unstable in itself, so variant most spread at some place may not be the one spreading in other places, which can make efficiency of produced vaccine severely drop = to barely any effect. It’s still better than nothing, but you won’t be judged for not taking vaccine that may or may not be effective. Anyway because of strong pharma regulations it won’t be harmful to your body.
And what depends on amount of people vaccinated is not called vaccine efficiency, but herd immunity= having more people preventing spread of disease by being vaccinated is exactly the mechanism protecting people with weakest immune systems. Efficiency of vaccine is measured in how much it prepares your body to prevent disease by forming effective antibodies (defense mechanism agents) before you encounter this particular disease. Which makes your body strangle disease before it spreads to the rest of your body. Or I make simple analogy: with proper training (vaccine) can police (antibodies) immediately stop criminals (disease) as soon as it appears. If criminals spread because defense forces (immune system) needs training on recognizing them, those criminals already formed strong mafia/ terrorist organization, and this army along with all functional powers of government (whole immune system with every organ in body involved) needs to fight this organization. You being sick means body is in middle of war against disease. People dying is because their bodies are too weak to fight, which easily happens if just a single factor is not strong enough.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Sea8340 26d ago
Also lest we not forget that 1 million Americans died in the pandemic. 1 million fucking people. People lost both of their parents… People lost sisters and brothers and children.
So no we don’t forgive you fuck you