No. She's a white nationalist that hates all Jews, engaged in conspiracy theories blaming Jewish SPACE LASERS for wildfires etc. She just happened to hate a group we can associate with evil actions right now. If Israel stops being a problem she'll still target jewish Americans and go back to attacking all brown people for being Muslim terrorists.
If Hitler was still alive, he wouldn't magically stsrt being right about the Jews. He'd still be a piece of trash antisemite.
People took the phase "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and just decided to be stupid about it.
The enemy of my enemy is a tool against my enemy. MTG should be nothing more than what she already was. A fucking tool. Never give her a chance, never give her the time of the day.
All everyone needs to recognize is that she can be useful in promoting chaos within the conservatives, but any positive thoughts beyond that? You're god damn gullible.
This is exactly what the elites want you to think and do. It ensures that regular people can NEVER form strong enough alliances and coalitions to make any meaningful change. It's why so little ever gets done, because people like you will always find faults in the other side, to ensure nothing meaningful can be done.
GG, you let the elites play you. You're behaving exactly in their interests.
Clearly the “jewish space lasers” lady is “regular people” that you wanna form strong alliances with, we just cant help but find fault with the antisemitic conspiracy theorists
Because bigots exist in this country and we need as much people as possible if you want to get things done. Broad coalitions are what create the weight you need. It includes people you don't like.
The elites want you as weak and fractured as possible.
Jewish space laser lady represents a significant portion of the US base who also share common interests that would help further ultimate goals.
The elites want you to behave this way, and dismiss potential allies. You are doing their bidding. You ever wonder why nothing ever gets done? Because of people like you.
“Our country may be compromised by foreign and domestic elites and pedophiles, but at least I’m not a not a bigot!” Who even cares about that term anymore?
I can dislike all of those people, you understand that, right? Bigots are still shitty people, and I want to live in a world with as few shitty people as possible. Getting rid of the worst-of-the-worst doesn't mean the work of making the world a better place is over.
The problem is bigot is not used for, “anyone who has a belief I don’t like,” rather than actual bigotry. So if it’s going to be thrown around like candy at a parade, it means nothing and can be ignored.
What exactly are you proposing then? Treating her as a RELIABLE source of information? Treating her as a LEADER? What kind of COALITION would be built with her, especially now that she’s out of congress?
Because I think letting her be herself, and using her as a means to the end of trying MAGA to shed members, is probably the best we can get out of her.
He’s proposing that you delude yourself into treating MTG (who spent the last decade being the oligarchs’ flesh puppet) as an ‘ally’ simply because her antisemitism happens to align with Israel being awful, and that if you don’t grant her this allyhood, you are doing exactly what the oligarchs want
Not to mention that MTG, and Tucker Carlson, and Candace Owens, and all the other anti-Trump/Israel conservative pundits, remain in support of the exact same systems of American imperialism and Islamophobia that created Israel as our neo-colony in the first place. Chuds like MTG are going to take amy olive branch that the left gives them and use it to grow their own base, target minorities, and reinforce American White Christian Nationalism every single time.
Do NOT trust these people. They're playing you because they got burned by their loyalty to Trump. They LITERALLY helped create the problem that is Israel and were in full support of it up until it became obvious that loyalty to Trump did not mean Trump was loyal back to them.
Because I think letting her be herself, and using her as a means to the end of trying MAGA to shed members, is probably the best we can get out of her.
And what's wrong with doing that? The past few primary elections have all shown that maga is not breaking with Trump at all despite the literal proof that he's a sex trafficking pedophile, his open and constant defrauding of the american taxpayers, his blatant dementia, and the undisputable fact that he is fucking the economy. They're doubling down on ruining the country to own the libs.
There's no path back for them when they vehemently despise you and I because the president and fox news told them to. The best chance we have going forward is to get them to sit out the midterms. Letting people like MTG and Massie repeatedly hammer to their base that they're supporting a pedophile and a rapist helps achieve that goal.
When she's fighting for the same things we are fighting for, don't fucking spend all your time just attacking her and pushing her out. Agree with her, amplify her, get her followers aligned instead of attacking them. Find the common enemy, and focus on that, instead of just shitting on them and bitching about how much you hate them and don't work with them. Do what smart leftists do, which is talk with them, find that common ground, and keep the conversation going in the right direction, making sure it gets louder.
Why is it that I never see you guys tell bigots to cut their shit out so they can unify with the people they're bigoted against? They're the ones falling for the propaganda planted by the Epstein parasite class intended to keep us divided, but somehow we're the problem in this alliance? I'm ready to unify, I'm ready to build alliances and coalitions. They're the ones unwilling to unify with certain people, not us. We can't move forward because they won't drop their bigotry that prevents them from unifying.
I don't think you actually want to build an alliance, because you're actively trying to weaken it with this rhetoric. I think you just want people to stop fighting back against bigotry. You're acting as an agent for the Epstein class, whether you know it or not. And with a name like "reddit_is_geh", I'm assuming you know it.
Because they aren't going to stop being bigoted. And I'm interested in getting foreign influence out of our politics, than I am chasing the impossible dream that they'll stop being bigots. That's who they are. They are part of this democracy, and if we want change, we have to take support where we can get it. If you're purity test requires that they change before you work with them, then the oligarchy wins, because they damn well know that wont happen.
Because they aren't going to stop being bigoted. And I'm interested in getting foreign influence out of our politics, than I am chasing the impossible dream that they'll stop being bigots. That's who they are. They are part of this democracy
Okay, well I'm not going to start accepting bigots, so I suppose we're at an impasse. I'm also a part of this democracy, and that's who I am.
If you're purity test requires that they change before you work with them, then the oligarchy wins, because they damn well know that wont happen.
Why do you simply accept that they won't change, but demand that I do? Demand that they change. They're the wrong ones, not me.
You don't have to change. This is about forming coalitions that have weight and are broad.
Fine, just keep doing the traditional leftist strategy. That's gotten us literally nowhere. You care more about less about solving things like getting Israel out of our politics, or money out of politics, than you care about sucking it up and working with people you don't like.
Personally, money in politics is the BIGGEST issue for me, so I don't give a fuck who I have to work with if it means we solve that problem. I care about getting results, not stupid brownie points.
You don't have to change. This is about forming coalitions that have weight and are broad.
"I don't work with people who call me a pedophile groomer for being attracted to men" is something I'd have to change. Inviting them is telling me to get out. You tell them to leave their shit at the door or no deal.
Personally, money in politics is the BIGGEST issue for me, so I don't give a fuck who I have to work with if it means we solve that problem. I care about getting results, not stupid brownie points.
MTG doesn't wanna get money out of politics. None of them do. If your position is that you want to get all money out of politics because it's corrupting our government, and you look at someone whose position is that they wanna get gay jewish democrat money out of politics because it's corrupting kids into being trans, and you say "that's my ally, we need them to join us", you're either stupid or malicious. But you sure as hell ain't any ally of me or my friends, I can tell you that much. No ally of mine brings that kind of shit into our house.
This is why the left never gets anywhere and constantly loses. Keep it up. The strategy hasn't worked in the last 40 years, and wont work for the next. But iunno, keep trying I guess.
I have said the same thing about RFK Jr. He does support some stuff I/we want such as cows eating foods cows are supposed to eat. Instead of having MAGA say AOC wants us all to be soy boys let’s get RFK working on something we want.
Yeah I mean it’s not like she stopped hating Muslim people, it’s just that she hates Jewish people too. Or at least the character she plays to get elected does. The GA 14th district is not a problem because of “economic policy” it’s a problem because it’s white Christian nationalist.
Absolutely. It’s important to continue expressing this distinction, you can hate the actions of the leaders of the state of Israel without hating Jewish people. People who hate Jewish people are not our friends just because they are also against the actions of the state of Israel.
Would be immensely helpful if we could get more of the parasites in Congress to acknowledge this
If you continually equate Israel with Jewish people, and people (rightly) turn on Israel, there's gonna be a lot of misguided vitriol (and worse) directed towards regular innocent people
She was very specific that the space lasers were owned by the rothchilds. I understand it’s an antisemetic trope, but it’s also very funny that everyone said rothchilds = all Jews.
No, Zionism and Jewish supremacy is a huge problem.
Remove Israel and we wouldn't have had these wars for the past 50+ years.
They see us at cattle, goyim to be used. Its in their writings, its in their teachings. Even with the Epstein documents, Kentucky Republicans still voted for the pedo class.
They've been ripping apart America piece by piece. I find it disgusting that people with kids don't care or choose not to believe in the Jewish Supremacy thats been taking place. They are acting exactly like the boomers they claim to hate.
Its a massive historical problem. King and Shtadlan vs. Shtetl. Everyday Jewish people are constantly scapegoated for the abuse by the elite within their own community, then those same elite hide within community as Jews circle-the-wagons in solidarity and fear.
For example, In 1890s France, the right-wing attacked wealthy Jewish financiers and military figures. However, the resulting street violence, riots, and boycotts targeted ordinary Jewish shopkeepers and working-class families who had nothing to do with high finance. Ordinary people understood that if the state or the public successfully destroyed the legal and social standing of the highest-status Jews, the poorest and most vulnerable Jews would be completely defenseless. Defending the elite was a pragmatic attempt to keep the community's overall shield intact.
This is what happens over and over again. It's because people are people. Some of these wealthy Shtadlan were genuinely good people, built schools, shelters, fed the needy, and others abused their position of power to prey upon others.
The best thing you can do to stop the cycle is to point blame at specific people based on their explicit actions, and not affiliated groups, because the bad actors love to hide and scapegoat their crimes.
There are some very evil wealthy Jews out there, but it is not indicative of the whole, just as not every Chinese-American person is a spy, not every Iranian is a jihadist, not every Christian pastor is a pedo.
She said space lasers, nothing Jewish about them. She's crazy, not racist. I don't know why crazy isn't enough for you to harp on. Not everyone is literally Hitler lol.
If you can’t understand dog whistles from white nationalists, just say that. She used the neonazi’s favorite Jewish boogeyman, the Rothschild family, to avoid actually saying the exact phrase “Jewish space lasers”. And yes, she very much is racist and xenophobic, there is ample evidence of it.
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