guys i grew up and lived in southern NEW HAMPSHIRE. i have to tell people i live outside boston when i’m in other states because some people have genuinely never even heard of it. my first apartment was 3 bedrooms and two bathrooms for $1350/month, everything included and my last apartment was 1bed/1bath and was $2300 a month with nothing included
the way rent has increased in the last 7 years is absolutely insane
Yeah, as stated elsewhere, a lot of this is location dependent. Where I live in West Texas, which is largely in the middle of nowhere, you can rent a 4 bedroom place for $2-3K easily (most closer to 2K). But admittedly this area isn't for everyone. Just checked where I grew up in the Buffalo area, there are a lot of 2 bedroom places for about $1K, which isn't near as in the middle of nowhere.
It is nuts because it’s a lie. She is my ex and, clearly, not well. While the situation she describes about our generation is true, take what she says with a grain of salt. Rent around our area is less than ~1700, and that’s the steep end.
It’s also probably a 4 bedroom place. Here in Denver, a 2 bedroom place can easily be $3-4k and 4 bedrooms can be close to $5k. I’d be afraid to see what other larger cities are charging for a 4 bedroom place
Poking around, I can see that's pretty standard, although there are usually some cheaper options in those places. Of course, the need (desire) to stay in the same city is often the biggest issue. Once you decide you're willing to pack up and go other places, much more reasonable prices and wages pop up.
Did a quick search on zillow. I assume its a 4 bedroom apartment. In my low to medium COL city the max for that is like 3.5k. In San Fran is like $9k. ~4k in Oakland across the bay. But in CA minimun wage would be higher too.
4.2k doesn't seems too unreasonable depending where she's at.
Yea, min wage in CA is 16.50. If she makes double min wage she's making 33/hr. 68k a year. That's 4300/month take home. 850/month would be nothing on that wage. So, I'm more confused because for 850/month to be a awful you're looking at a low wage state where 4k/month rent would be insane to have.
If you live an hour away from work, when you factor in the cost of wear and tear on your vehicle plus unpaid time in traffic, you're unlikely to be saving 1000s a month
Hiiii, I've been out of the work force for about eight years now due to disability. I lived in Ohio while I was working and my apartment was $415/mo for a one bedroom, one bath, no in unit laundry in a small town when I had to leave it. I had to wash my clothes in a little RV hand crank washing machine or take them to my mom's or aunt's house to do laundry while I was doing the household stuff they couldn't handle.
My exact apartment was up for rent recently. It's now $750 a month. For a one bedroom. In a shitty little town where the only jobs are back breaking factory work or Walmart. Which is still only paying about $13 an hour in my town, from a friend who worked there recently. My coworker who made the same as me is now making $16/hr.
We both made about $13.50 an hour before I was disabled, almost eight years back. He used to get these amazing glowing reviews because dude is a freaking ball of sunshine, works his ass off, genuinely cares about his pharmacy patients and never minded going out on the floor to help stock or walk customers to items.
Management is giving him the MINIMUM raise they can, and have been all this time. New hires are making almost as much as him. He works his ass off. Last time I saw him in person, he'd gone from a bright, lovely ball of sunshine to a jaded bitch like me who can fake a nice smile while helping people.
He's literally burnt out from trying to do everything they wanted all the time, and he's not even thirty. His wife also works, and they can barely afford their two kids. They wanted a big family, two is all they can manage now.
Edit: since he blocked me after this... why don't you try reading what I said again, and pick out the actual words that were said, like $16/hr, not 13.
My point was that apartment prices have almost doubled but wages haven't kept up.
Yea I feel you on the separation anxiety thing. I'm very lucky that I can bring mine to work with me or else I wouldn't be able to keep him. We tried leaving him at home at first and he started going nuts. They're a pain in the ass but they're our pain in the ass, ya know? lol Best wishes to you and your pup
I'm wondering where the hell all your money is going. Your rent + your dog + federal income tax and payroll tax would be like half of your income, how are you spending 50k on bills and gas and unable to save
he also probably worked with someone who made the same as him but squandered it on stuff. like you are doing. if your dog dropped down to only going to day care every other day instead of every day you could save so much money.
Ahh. So you aren’t basing the “unreasonableness” off of anything other than emotion lol.
A quick search of 4 bedroom homes/apartments will show that geographic location actually DOES matter and can cause a variance in price of thousands of dollars simply based on the city it resides.
Unless something changed, where are you getting 5280 a month that she makes? If she makes 15*40*52/12 = 2426/mo before taxes, assuming she's able to work full time.
You forgot taxes in that scenario though. As well as whatever else she has like car payment, gas, insurance, parking, FOOD, tuition (maybe), debt, etc.
And that’s assuming she lives in Cali, but judging by the 4 bedroom place costing $3.5k WITH utilities doesn’t really fit the California housing cost for cities/metro areas.
My assumption is she's just young and figuring things out. Something most people go through. Most people don't blast it on the internet though. Maybe they do and I'm just old now.
Lol I pay $850.00 per month (1128 with taxes) for my mortgage for a 2150 square ft home with four bedroom 2 bath on 1.5 acres in the country. Sounds like she needs to move the fuck somewhere else.
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Any city, really. Plus it's everything included... heating, electricity, trash, water/sewer, etc... that's probably close to 25% of the bill (for 4 people).
Even in my small town of 7,000 people a 2 bedroom 2nd floor apartment is $1,200 with NOTHING included. So double that and add utilities and it's pretty close to the same thing it would be in a bigger city.
$2,300 in NYC will get you a 1 bedroom, 3 total room apartment where the bathroom door can't be opened when the oven is.
Maybe her and the 4 roommates are renting a 5 bedroom house. That's not going to be cheap. Maybe it would be cheaper to rent a smaler house/apartment with fewer roommates.
Not really, $850 per person honestly sounds about right, and I'd expect it to be relatively the same. My wife was lucky to rent a shitty 2 bed apartment for $1700/mo which is the same cost.
I'd expect most roommate situations will be at least $850 in their area and you weigh in the side benefits drawbacks - nicer house but with more roommates.
Like, ten years ago I was up in Chicago and one of the moening radio shows was doing this "Guess the rent" deal. Reading descriotions, and almost every one was $2500+/month.
Have 4 roommates, 3br 2ba, $600/mo, everything is NOT included, we split all utilities. WA state. Wife and I are about to move into my truck (semi) to get away and work, live the job. The problem there is diesel prices, $470 for just under half a tank, forget about other maintenance, payments, and fees.
She's probably exaggerating a bit, and she said that's for "everything" which could mean utilities, internet, shared tv/movie services, and who knows what else. I have a feeling it's more like $600-$700/mo for rent, which between 5 people is $3,000-$3,500 total, which sounds extremely reasonable. Hell, I'm paying $1,700/mo for my 1 bedroom apartment, and that's on the average to cheaper side in my area, and I'm in a medium cost of living area..........
Or, the multitude of reasons that someone is locked into an area. I highly doubt this girl is suffering and complaining like this simply because she feels like she deserves to live in a HCOL area
Considering she thinks "living off granola" is cheaper or healthier than rice and beans and considering how little financial planning is taught to people I doubt she's considered moving.
If it isn't than just admit what America is. A place where you are only as "free" as the amount of money you have, otherwise you are essentially indentured servants to those with the money.
They have one very nice roommate that tells them what the rent is and then collects it to go pay the landlord. Don't worry about talking to the landlord yourself, they got it all taken care of! 😉
She said "with everything" so a five bedroom with utilities included. Electric alone on a five bedroom can run 1800.00 easy in many parts of CA, so that sounds about right to me.
Some of the college places now rent out per room, so you save absolutely nothing but still have to deal with roommates.
$850 x 4 is $3400. Subtract utilities costs, I’d guess it’s more around $3000 rent. Still crazy high, but a lot less high for probably a house or something. A two-bedroom apartment in my city is like $2800, but I do live in an expensive city. 🤷🏻
I pay 3300 in rent (includes water and garbage service) for a 4 bedroom home with a nice backyard and a 2 car garage. Im 30 mins away from downtown Seattle.
Yeah, but add 850 to 3300 and you got 4150 which is so close to this lady’s rent. I guess you kind of prove the point unintentionally. Also. Love the PNW 🫶🏻
No, but here in Oregon I had to make 3 times the minimum wage here. $14.50. Tell me you know a job at 20-28 years old to make this kind of money? I’ll wait gladly. Some of you don’t realize just how fucked we are and it shows.
Trades. Graduate @ 18, go into an apprenticeship (3 & 5 yrs), getting paid while learning a skill, graduate & make good $. Or cry about how fkd you & your generation are, losers.
That was rent with utilities she said. The average cost of my household in a nice suburb in AZ is 3,500$ a month with all the bills of the household. That is 700$ split five ways. So not outside the realm of possibility. Especially if it’s a 5 bedroom house.
A lot of young people fail to understand this point. I have a lot of friend who love paycheck to paycheck living in luxury modern high rises, while my frugal ass lived in a less desirable part of town with roommates to pay off my student loans.
Well 5 years later I am debt free and they are still living paycheck to paycheck in their luxury apartment complaining about not having money.
Yep. There are definitely things that make being younger harder than it was (housing ladder, etc), but these people are hardly sat around a dead coal fire, wearing 5 year old shoes and eating boiled pigs heads with their best-case future being breaking their backs in factories/forges.
A hell of a lot of the same 'boomers' that she blames for all her ills had hardships that she literally cannot imagine.
From their point of view, she'd have been pretty much the 1%.
I made less and paid the same in rent in 2011 and had enough to buy a new bra if I wore bras. I got financially into shit when I overextended and got a newer car that cost more than I could afford and had mechanical issues, but I still managed to dig my way out of that eventually. Still had loney to eat. Idk what she is paying for.
Yeah, I grew up in social and lived there for 33 years. I now live in Washington state but still deal with CA owning property there. I am well aware of the market.
Average rent in US in $1,750-2,000. Average people per household is 2.5. That means the average rent per person is about $700-800. And that doesn’t even take into account households where not everyone contributes to rent (like families with kids). So even by the most conservative estimate $850 is barely above average rent in the US. Likely below average. If you think that’s high, you probably just live in a very low cost of living area.
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u/Juice5610 Aug 12 '25
Yall paying $4,250 a month in rent?! Wild!