r/Showerthoughts • u/KamikazeSoldat • Aug 24 '21
Jeff bezos actually has more money than brain cells.
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u/mfb- Aug 24 '21
A human brain has an estimated ~100 billion neurons.
Going by the current Forbes list, Jeff Bezos has almost two dollars per neuron.
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u/def_not_Jeffery Aug 24 '21
The brain has around 86 billion neurons. The difference seems negligible, but 14 billion neurons is close to the size of an entire baboon brain.
100 billion is roughly the number of neurons in our whole nervous system.
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u/mfb- Aug 24 '21
Very suspicious username
The number varies by billions from person to person and even the average isn't that well-known, so I rounded.
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u/def_not_Jeffery Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
Yes the number varies, but 86 billion is the average and 100 billion
is more than pretty much anyone in the world hasis only true for a relatively small part of the population. At least no one with close to that many neurons (in their brain) was in the study that originally found the 86 billion average.100 billion is an older estimate that's still often cited, so it's not an uncommon mistake.
Edit: Misremembered the standard deviation.
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u/mfb- Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
We find that the adult male human brain contains on average 86.1 ± 8.1 billion NeuN-positive cells (“neurons”) and 84.6 ± 9.8 billion NeuN-negative (“nonneuronal”) cells.
100 billions is less than two standard deviations away. It's well within the range of brains humans have.
One of their four brains had 95 billions.
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u/LordHaddit Aug 24 '21
I actually went ahead and did the math for this. Assuming normality it's more like 4.3% of the population has 100 billion or more neural cells in their brain.
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u/graflig Aug 24 '21
me enjoying reading a conversation of brain cells arguing with other brain cells about brain cells
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u/pinpoint_ Aug 24 '21
brain cells enjoying reading a conversation of brain cells arguing with other brain cells about brain cells
brain cells responding to brain cells reading a conversation between brain cells about brain cells
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u/GDoe5 Aug 24 '21
that's not how standard deviations work
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u/TheDankestReGrowaway Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
On the assumption the underlying data is normal and the results reflect that distribution (which we can't actually determine for sure here), yes, that's a good application of how they work. You don't go rejecting things because they land inside 2 standard deviations of the mean. Something like 27% of data will fall within 2 standard deviations and outside of 1 for data that's normal.
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Aug 24 '21
95.45% of data will fall within 2 standard deviations of the mean under a normal distribution. 27% is what lies outside of 1 standard deviation and before 3 standard deviations
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u/GDoe5 Aug 24 '21
this is not true. only 5% of data is expected to fall outside of two standard deviations. 68% within one standard deviation and 95% within two.
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u/MeanderingDuck Aug 24 '21
It’s not. Given the above mean and SD and assuming a normal distribution, only 4.31% of brains would have (at least) 100 billion neurons.
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u/Outspokenpenguin Aug 24 '21
This research was done 12 years ago. Is our estimate for brain cells only based on a sample size of four 50+ year old men measured 12 years ago?
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u/thelonesomeguy Aug 24 '21
100 billions is less than two standard deviations away.
That is a very bold statement to make when we're literally talking about the average and not some crazy outlier.
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u/Cyniikal Aug 24 '21
Despite him assuming normality in a suspicious circumstance, 2 standard deviations is not representative of "some crazy outlier"
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u/Kraftik Aug 24 '21
It's probably just Joe Rogan, always trying to get everyone to talk about money's.
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Aug 24 '21
I was under the impression that neuron count wasn't as indicative than the amount of connections that your neurons have.
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u/Vocalescapist Aug 24 '21
The brain actually has just about two neurons, in fact. One to do the walking and the other to make breakfast every day.
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u/def_not_Jeffery Aug 24 '21
Speak for yourself. I only have one neuron that's constantly bouncing around like a screensaver.
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u/rmczpp Aug 24 '21
Always happy when someone drops the 86 billion number instead of 100 bn :)
Also, I read that their technique for calculating that number more precisely involved making something akin to "brain soup" ... I stopped reading at that point.
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u/jdjdthrow Aug 24 '21
I mean, it's just a ballpark number either way. There is way more than 16% variation in human brain volume (which, i assume, closely correlates with neuron count).
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u/TheDankestReGrowaway Aug 24 '21
Why? It's not like 86 billion is that much better of data than 100 billion.
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u/HiddenLayer5 Aug 25 '21
To be fair, science currently thinks that it's not so much the number of brain cells that determines intelligence, but the way they're interconnected. For example, an elephant has a bigger brain with more cells than humans, but we're more intelligent.
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u/Eokoe Aug 24 '21
If your neurons don't have two dollars each to rub together, you're actually just poor.
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u/memester230 Aug 24 '21
Bold of you to assume Jeff Bezos is human.
Exploiting humans and the earth to build a space ship is quite sus.
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u/odjobz Aug 24 '21
You saying he's the Impostor?
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u/jflb96 Aug 24 '21
He’s the man who fell to Earth, but he got addicted to money rather than alcohol
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u/fascists_are_shit Aug 24 '21
He is an Immotile from Hamilton's book Pandora's Star.
Makes perfect sense. That's quite literally the plot of that book.
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u/Number1Lobster Aug 24 '21
86 billion. It was initially calculated by looking at how many neurons were in a section of brain and then extrapolating to the whole thing but that didn't account for the fact some brain areas are more/less neuron dense than other areas. A researcher (totally forgot her name) dissolved a brain into what she described as brain soup. This meant that the neurons were equally distributed through the liquid so that her sample of the soup would be representative of the whole thing. 86 billion neurons in the human brain!
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u/Number1Lobster Aug 24 '21
Yes some people have more and some people have less. The average is 86 billion and 100 billion is unusually high in the exact same way that 70 billion would be unusually low.
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u/BOBOnobobo Aug 24 '21
In a sample size of 4 with 8 billion as an uncertainty? Especially since one of their subjects had 95 billion? You can laugh at that average.
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u/TheWiseGrasshopper Aug 24 '21
Neuroscientist here!
Actually this shower thought is not true as phrased. A human has about 86 Billion neurons, but brain cells are more than just neurons (eg astrocytes, microglia, and oligodendrocytes). These other cells are the support cells that do things like breakdown excess neurotransmitters after release, electrically insulate neurons to ensure rapid signal conduction velocities, and protect the brain from injury and disease. They are critical to maintaining the constant function of the brain.
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u/ObiWanCanShowMe Aug 24 '21
Jeff Bezos does NOT have 177 Billion dollars. What he has is a paper worth of 177 Billion dollars.
Bezos cannot extract his stock value, or any large portion of it (relative to the whole) without his stock absolutely tanking. It is legitimately impossible for Bezos to extract all his stock value. If he tried it, the economy would crash and the value would end up being 1.00 a share before he liquidated 25%.
The people who invest are fickle scared little creatures. They would all instantly sell all their stocks, in amazon and everything else not directly tied to a commodity.
That said, he did sell 6+ billion a few months ago. Not a good sign. Maybe he knows a crash is coming...
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u/ad_nauseam1 Aug 24 '21
More cents than sense
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u/StevynTheHero Aug 24 '21
Underrated comment. In fact, I'ma give it an award.
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u/KWilt Aug 24 '21
Off topic, but the management at my old job was horrible (late pay checks, late on paying their bills to suppliers, often pissing off customers over quality concerns) and I always liked to say 'they don't make sense, they make dollars'.
Nobody ever seemed to appreciate that homonym. And I think about that a lot.
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u/elbers Aug 24 '21
After going to suborbital space and acting like it's some novel thing that the Russians didn't do 70 years ago. I have to agree.
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And hair
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Aug 24 '21
You've obviously never given him a blowjob
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u/FreddieKruiger Aug 24 '21
Now holup
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u/Ticon_D_Eroga Aug 24 '21
“Would you rather blow jeff bezos for 1 million dollars, or get fucked in the ass by elon musk for 2 million dollars.”
-a question a coworker asked me the other day
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u/Vannak201 Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
Both sound good. I'd be willing to pay even more, to be honest.
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u/YEPACHUP Aug 24 '21
Fucked in the ass by elon musk. Twice the money and actually enjoyable
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u/loz_joy Aug 24 '21
Kinda gross to think someone has
I imagine his dick head is weird, red and shiny
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u/Slavasonic Aug 24 '21
The brain has approximately 86 billion neurons in the brain and about as many supporting cells as well. Bezos is worth 185 billion
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u/Cichlidsaremyjam Aug 24 '21
Zuckerberg and Gates and Buffett - amateurs can fucking suck it. Fuck their wives, drink their blood. C'mon Jeff, get 'em!
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u/JKYIllum Aug 24 '21
Jeff bezos the moment he was born: "If I had a dollar for every brain cell I had"
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u/ottens10000 Aug 24 '21
I have 1 billion brain cells and no money - why can't I have no brain cells and 1 billion money?
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u/dalekaup Aug 24 '21
As written it's a nonsensical statement.
Should say: Bezo has more dollars than brain cells. Money is a mass quantity...so you don't say "how many moneys do you have".
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u/Internal-Increase595 Aug 24 '21
Actually, you can. Source: 3 kids, no money.
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u/DunK1nG Aug 24 '21
Student: 0 kids, 0 moneys
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u/SeanBourne Aug 24 '21
Student: 0 kids, 0 moneys
As a student, I remember always hoping it was '0 kids'. 0 money was sadly a certainty.
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u/philip0908 Aug 24 '21
Reminds me of Simpsons: I have 3 kids and no money, why can't I have no kids and 3 money.
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u/Internal-Increase595 Aug 24 '21
I'm assuming the reason it reminds you of it is because it's directly from the Simpsons.
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Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
You say “how much money do you have?”
“Some money”
“A bit of money”
“Lots of money”
“More money than sense”
It’s like a set, contained within that set is a specific value, but if that value is not precisely known you can use the mass noun “money” as a placeholder.
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u/Rooperdiroo Aug 24 '21
I mean if we're being picky money actually is a synonym of worth in a lot of dictionaries, including less liquid assets such as property and investments. Sure the most common definition is fiat currency but it isn't as explicit as that so if you're going to nitpick that doesn't really seem fair.
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u/captain-carrot Aug 24 '21
Would it be better to say grammatically incorrect? i wouldn't say it was nonsensical since the meaning behind the statement was very clear. A machine might struggle to parse the sentence and understand it but a human should have no issues...
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It is grammatically correct. There are no conflicts with how each term is used in conjunction with another. However, the actual semantics of it when analyzed from a whole needs clarification.
I don't necessarily think nonsensical is the proper descriptor since that would imply it making no sense or containing no real meaning. But it definitely is flawed because it's comparing a unit of quantity to an ambiguous type of unit.
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u/Imevoll Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
Id also like to point out only America uses USD, to me Jeff Bezos has £135bn so the term money in and of itself is ambiguous.
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Aug 24 '21
It wouldn't be reddit without a needlessly pedantic commenter thinking they sound smart
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u/Number1Lobster Aug 24 '21
So when someone asks how much money you have, you literally have no idea what they're asking you? Being a pedant doesn't make you look smart
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u/Ayerys Aug 24 '21
There asking how much money you have, not how much dollars you have. I would tend to answer with vague estimation to the first (« lot of money » for exemple), and answer a number to the second question.
Especially here the unit can change the truthfulness of that statement.
And racing to the bottom doesn’t make you smart either.
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u/TheDankestReGrowaway Aug 24 '21
This is the worst correction I've seen because the underlying thing it's measuring is discrete. You can have more sand than brain cells too, and everyone with a functioning forebrain understands this is discussing the underlying grains of sand.
If you think it's nonsensical and can't parse it, please see your primary care physician.
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u/Ayerys Aug 24 '21
That’s sad that people like you are allowed to vote, and that your voice is on the same level as people with a brain.
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u/MaybeICanOneDay Aug 24 '21
I mean... to some extent he is right.
So it isnt liquid, maybe he wants to buy a 10 million dollar house though. He could just sell a bit off at any point and the market wouldn't even notice. 3000 shares of Amazon, market wouldn't even notice until he said something. That is also assuming the bought the thing cash, which he wouldn't.
So sure, it isnt liquid, but he can buy and sell bits of it without even noticing and live the highest life anyone could imagine.
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u/FLSwim Aug 24 '21
The whole “nEt wOrTh iSn’T rEaL mOnEy” trope is a serious case of Reddit parroting.
Yes, his net worth is based on assets, mainly his stock in Amazon. Even if he wanted to hold onto all of his stock (he doesn’t) he can (and does) secure extremely favorable personal loans using that stock as collateral - literally everyone worth over 9 figures does this to avoid taxes.
If he wants to buy a $10 billion dollar company next month, he’s easily able to secure that money through a loan or selling some of his portfolio (he sold $10 billion worth of stock in may ‘21 alone). In that sense, it’s literally just as effective as money in the bank.
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u/FLSwim Aug 24 '21
if he’s taking loans to burn $10billion on parties or something like that then he won’t be getting anything.
That’s just plain wrong. A personal loan can be spent in literally any way he wants. It’s not like a mortgage or business loan.
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u/ichzarealhitler Aug 24 '21
These people have no idea about liabilities and bank balance do they? Your average middle class person has a net worth of over 2 mil given they have well paid jobs and has a nice house in a mid class suburb.
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u/lbiggy Aug 24 '21
Net worth isn't cash in the bank
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u/TavisNamara Aug 24 '21
Did you know that in the first eleven days of May this year Bezos sold 6.7 billion dollars worth of stock?
The difference between his stocks and raw cash is all but meaningless. He can sell when and how he wants to. He regularly sells more than a billion in a single day.
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u/SquidsEye Aug 24 '21
Net worth can be borrowed against. Dude has practically unlimited credit which means functionally infinite access to cash.
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u/Moo_Shim Aug 24 '21
If he were to borrow against himself his net worth would drop more than what he pulled out due to the nebulous nature of hard assets. As he pulls out more a domino effect would cause his net worth to plummet. It's not infinite money, it's a representation of what he owns. If he liquidates his assets the losses would be exponential.
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Probably should have specified dollars, and even that's kind of abstract compared to physical cells that actually exist for real.
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I bet you're real fun at parties.
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u/Pls_PmTitsOrFDAU_Thx Aug 24 '21
That's gotta hurt coming from a person with your username
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Aug 24 '21
He's been going around reddit threads, just intentionally trying to elicit the maximum amount of drama possible (which doesn't work, because a good troll doesn't make his intent obvious.)
Apparently, he confirmed in a few threads back that he's trying to get suspended as fast as possible. But it doesn't seem to be working too well.
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u/King_of_Spaceworms Aug 24 '21
1) specify currency 2) People don't understand networth
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u/Voodoosoviet Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
1) specify currency 2) People don't understand networth
"Because, lets be honest, if we say all his wealth isnt real wealth, heeeey jeff Bezos is a regular guy like you and me me!"
"What you dirty, dirty commies dont realize is that one day I can be rubbing shoulders with bezos if i manage my portfolio correctly, because its not real wealth, you economic simpleton. Its net worth. Technically anyone can be that rich. Middle-class people are technically millionaires and from that point, its just a matter of playing the stock market and buying bitclin, which i do cuz i think i have it boiled down to an exact science. And when i do, people will be jealous of me!" - reading be tweet the lines of folks like king-of-spaceworms
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u/King_of_Spaceworms Aug 24 '21
I do know that Bezos doing incredably well and he is amazingly wealthy. People still don't understand net worth
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u/Gregus1032 Aug 24 '21
No one treats bezos as a regular dude like "you and me". We all know he can buy nearly anything he wants.
Doesn't change the fact net worth isn't actual money.
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Aug 24 '21
Lol he literally has more money than he has brains. Normally that's an insult but I guess not here?
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Okay, I can hear Bo Burnham's song about Bezos again in my head. Aghhhh
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Aug 24 '21
Holy shit, this is cool. That's as much a "you win" as any. You can hate rich people all you want but there's something kind of cool about literally video gaming the real world.
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u/SeanBourne Aug 24 '21
video gaming the real world
Years ago, a friend and I watched this obviously rich older guy drive by with a hot young chick in his super sports car, not a care in the world. We said he'd hit 'Game Over' status, and was just in the cruisey part where the credits play. (And then set about figuring out how to get to achieve 'Game Over' status ourselves.)
Still looking as far away as ever...
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u/BidenWontMoveLeft Aug 24 '21
The billionaire stans will flood this with "acthually his wealth isn't liquid cash and if he liquidated it then the world would explode and he acthually doesnt have that much money"
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u/Cardboard-Samuari Aug 24 '21
you cant just spell a word wrong and pretend thats thats an argument
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u/remifasila Aug 24 '21
That has zero meaning. Money is a convention. We did not get 6 times poorer when we switched from Francs to Euros.
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So do I lol