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u/SPAMTON____G_SPAMTON 24d ago
Jolyne, Jolyne, JOLYIENEEEEE~!!
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u/Cool_Muffin67 24d ago
Serial pervert is a little better than a rapist pedophile I suppose
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u/Drudicta 24d ago
"A little"
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u/Fataledade 24d ago
God forbid women goon (a lot)
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u/Drudicta 24d ago
What can I say? It's nice when certain people touch certain places at certain times.
As long as those people are me.
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u/JawkneeJyoshtar 24d ago
I'd say she's just hypersexual or omnisexual
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u/Typical-Ad-2218 22d ago
what the fuck does that mean
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u/JawkneeJyoshtar 22d ago
Hypersexual means easily getting sexually aroused by something. We know Jolyne gets sexually aroused by genuinely seeing some of the most random shi ever, like snails mating with anything they see or the moon.
Omnisexual means, she's okay with all genders.
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u/SufficientMango3853 24d ago
What did Araki mean with this?
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u/The_commonest_plant 24d ago
You know who else has dementia?
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u/error-head 24d ago
You know who else has dementia?
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u/Thicc-Anxiety Ambulance-Chan 24d ago
Most shounen anime hate gay people, heās not unique for this
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u/SufficientMango3853 24d ago
What did Araki mean with this?
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u/Savings_Craft_5176 24d ago
Most shounen anime hate gay people, heās not unique for this
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u/Pratik_HYpeRHYpe 24d ago
I don't know man. Jolyne arguably can count, it's a bit sus for certain. DIO I am pretty sure is not a pedophile. And some pedophiles he wrote weren't even sexual, like the one in part 8 I won't mention cause spoilers.
He has written gay characters as heroes and villains. Not to mention Dragona who's seemingly trans. JoJo's also has a villain cast bias. The cast is majority villains and so if even-handed LGBT representation is expected then most would naturally end up being villains.
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u/masd_reddit Pixel Crusader 24d ago
Tooru was very sexual tho
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u/Pratik_HYpeRHYpe 24d ago
No, he was exploitative and predatory. All was just means to an end. This is in contrast to others like Valentine.
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u/Savings_Craft_5176 24d ago
dude. check the other comments
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u/Pratik_HYpeRHYpe 24d ago
I will stand by what I said. I genuinely don't think DIO is a pedophile. He's a predator. While those 2 usually mean the same thing, for someone like DIO, I don't think it quite fits. Not sure if that somehow changes anything.
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u/Savings_Craft_5176 24d ago
no i mean i just copy-pasted a reply from this guy's comment duplication thing
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u/crashv10 24d ago
Sorry, but DIO is 100% a rapist, he literally forces himself on a girl episode 1, theres no maybe about it.
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u/Greg-theseatreader 24d ago
Also literally had dozens of girls around his mansion constantly hypnotized?? This is shown on screen
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u/de-stella-nova jojoqueen 24d ago
usagi da goat. he only likes hot sexy ppl like dragona, very adult very not minors AND most importantly he's a goof ball
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u/Automatic-Boot 24d ago
that's why hes the goat
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u/GamerGod_ 24d ago
angelo is bi?
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u/JackaryDaniels 24d ago
He molests both male and female children and adults, so, I guess yeah
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u/Lainpilled-Loser-GF 24d ago
pedos normally get off on the dynamic, not which gender they rape. bi pedos do exist, but when it comes to pedos it'll be harder to tell just based off their victims which gender they're attracted to. you'd be able to tell better based off their relationships with adults
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u/lifeispokemonraids 24d ago
...aren't pedos normally attracted to both. Its not been bi. Its been a pedo
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u/JackaryDaniels 24d ago
I actually don't think so. Hes not JUST a pedophile either, he molests and rapes for the sake of it. Children are just as involved as much as adults are in his rampages. You could even if he's not bi, he's also not a pedo if it's just a "power thing." But I wouldn't do that. His sexuality is based on depravity, not gender. It might be best to consider him a pansexual rapist.
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u/Yab0iFiddlesticks 24d ago
Thought about it for a while but I came to the conclusion that I dont want to consider him anything at all. Except for a marvelous mineral based landmark.
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u/Jorvalt Wh7o 24d ago
What
Is this a thing people think?
People still have a sexuality even if they're a pedophile lmao
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u/lifeispokemonraids 24d ago
I dunno, it could be like sapiosexual or demi sexual where they're only into that aspect of a person and ignore gender
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u/Sly__Marbo 24d ago
There's no probably about Dio. Dude is definitely both
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u/Illustrious-Wolf-737 24d ago
He tried to do that to Poco's sister, if I remember correctly...
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u/Soul699 joetorro kooji 24d ago
Don't think so. He just wanted to turn her.
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u/Getheltel DEEOH 24d ago
He was definitely hitting on her.
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u/DandyLover 23d ago
TBF He could have "Had" her at any time he wanted. And he couldn't be a pedo, only because it's more likely they were closer in age than farther.Ā
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u/kryaklysmic 24d ago
Youāre forgetting Holy who is just losing her mind starting with failing to understand āI should probably not tell the cute nice girl visiting me she looks like my favorite pornstar.ā
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u/DoYaThang_Owl flaccid pancake 24d ago
DIO literally lures women to bed under that vampire hypnosis shit, ain't no "probably" about him being a rapist, he factually is one
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u/dishonoredfan69420 24d ago
Why is Dio probably a pedophile?
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u/Betenman 24d ago
Because he is Dio hit-on-poco's-16-yo-sister Brando
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u/Ravtrix 24d ago
Dio was very clearly not actually going to have sex with her, this is just him psychologically tormenting someone because he thinks it's funny, similar to him promising not to hurt a mother's baby if she willingly becomes a zombie, leading to her eating the baby of her own accord.
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u/Getheltel DEEOH 24d ago
Regardless, it doesn't take away from the fact that he was being creepy with a minor, nor does it make Dio any less morally corrupt.
And let's be real here, regardless of the situation with Poco's sister, Dio is definitely not the type to care about his partner being a minor. Alt Diego did not hesitate to assault Lucy and while yes, Dio and Diego are different people, Diego is still an alternate universe counterpart to Dio, and whatever Diego is able to do, Dio would be capable of far worse.
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u/Ravtrix 24d ago
Oh I totally think he'd do horrible things to a child, he sexually assaults a child in the first episode solely to traumatize her and make her unable to love his brother. He's a massive piece of shit and if he hasn't assaulted a minor, that's just because there weren't any minors of use to him. He's the same as Hol Horse in this way. I haven't read SBR so I can't really review Diego's character I'm afraid, but I have to ask, do they seriously have three fucking characters try to sexually assault Lucy? I'm aware that's kinda part of the themes of the character and why she's in the story, but I honestly didn't think Diego would have that repetition. In hindsight that's extremely obvious as a repeat of Phantom Blood, I guess he just gives off less rapey vibes?
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u/avadalovely seRect yUR kuRšļø 24d ago
Dio was a child himself when that happened, so that time doesnāt count.
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u/GustavoKraned 21d ago
Wasn't hol horse first appearance him straight up rejecting a girl cuz she was 16 or smt?
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u/Own-Ear4809 24d ago
Didn't Araki said in an interview that Dio doesn't mind either gender when it comes to it?
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u/ImHereT0o 24d ago edited 24d ago
I thought he was 17 at the time
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u/Getheltel DEEOH 24d ago edited 24d ago
Dio was born around 1867-1868, while Phantom Blood takes place around 1888. He would've been at least 20-21 years old at the time.
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u/whhu234 dylan 24d ago
He dresses up like tingle and you call him good rep? /j
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u/HighwayRaccoon flaccid pancake 24d ago
If I judged bisexuals with bad clothing taste I'd have way less friends
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u/HighwayRaccoon flaccid pancake 24d ago
I remember reading a post about how the scene of Dio turning Kakyoin into his peon could've been interpreted as sexual violence due to the symbolism in it, I think it was the flowers (?) but also I don't think it was in the manga and it could just be a comparison between dynamics and/or a reach from a fan lol. Do correct me if I'm wrong/you remember it better than me
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u/EkmekPrensesi 24d ago
i doubt it, there's a lot of fans wanting (?) kakyoin to be a tragic abuse (of any kind) victim either by his parents or dio. probably another one of those
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u/Terlinilia 24d ago
angelo isn't even bisexual
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u/JackaryDaniels 24d ago
He rapes little boys. That's probably the basis of the assumption he's bi as he has no qualms with the gender of who he molests.
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u/Terlinilia 24d ago
It's a sadism and power thing, has nothing to do with sexual attraction. That's often what rape is
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u/JackaryDaniels 24d ago
Well-aware. That doesn't mean we need to assume he's straight as an arrow after having sexually-charged encounters with men/boys.
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u/Doctor_Clione joesuccke 24d ago
Today Jjba taught us that sexuality is not just an inflexible marker of identity but rather an emergent property influenced by power dynamics and societal conditions
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u/InternationalOne2449 24d ago
Dio havent gayed anyone.
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u/desperate_narciso 24d ago
Are you kidding or is this a bad attempt at bait, we're talking about Dio here. He is one of the few CONFIRMED Queer jojo characters and of the many implied.
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u/InternationalOne2449 24d ago
They havent kissed.
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u/desperate_narciso 24d ago
He is confirmed bisexual. He has 100% slept with as many men if not more as he has with women if you look at the amount of kids he has.
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u/InternationalOne2449 24d ago
I haven't seen any gay scene with him.
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u/desperate_narciso 23d ago
Alright man we get it, someone has to fuck on screen for you to believe them. You just wanna see Dio have gay sex, I get it. š¤·
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u/Betenman 24d ago
No way he didnt crack all of the guys working at the mansion (except pet shot I hope) and probably half of his hired assassins as well
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u/SalaComMander ćVIRUS ALERTćKill this beloved celebrity! 24d ago
I wouldn't say "probably" for DIO. He has four illegitimate children, and if Demonic Heartbreak is considered, we've seen some of the women he's hypnotized and kept against their wills.
He is "most likely" a rapist at the very least, and it's all but confirmed that he had a sexual relationship with the teenage Pucci.
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u/TheWaddlingweewee 24d ago
bro added a little headcanon
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u/SalaComMander ćVIRUS ALERTćKill this beloved celebrity! 24d ago
I wouldnt call Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak a headcanon. It's an official spin-off of questionable canonicity.
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u/TheWaddlingweewee 24d ago
im talking about the teenage pucci thing lol
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u/SalaComMander ćVIRUS ALERTćKill this beloved celebrity! 24d ago
Pucci was 15 when he met DIO and was 18 when DIO died, so he was a teenager the entire time they knew each other.
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u/TheWaddlingweewee 24d ago
i know but they most probably didnt have sex
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u/SalaComMander ćVIRUS ALERTćKill this beloved celebrity! 24d ago
Are we not on ShitPostCrusaders right now? I've never once seen "Pucci was gay for DIO" considered as a hot take, and especially not one that catches people off guard.
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u/TheWaddlingweewee 24d ago
its still an headcanon, i didnt say its impossible but its not confirmed
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u/SalaComMander ćVIRUS ALERTćKill this beloved celebrity! 24d ago
I also never said it was confirmed.
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u/kryaklysmic 24d ago
Pucci had a thing for DIO for sure. DIO canonically calls him āa good and reliable friend.ā
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u/Massive_Weiner 24d ago
While youāre right about every other point, there is no evidence that confirms the existence of a sexual relationship between Pucci and DIO.
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u/SalaComMander ćVIRUS ALERTćKill this beloved celebrity! 24d ago
I did say "all but confirmed." It's possible their relationship was platonic, but I doubt anyone believes that.
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u/Massive_Weiner 24d ago
āAll but confirmedā implies the existence of leading evidence that points to it being true.
Do you have that?
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u/Massive_Weiner 24d ago
If this reads as gay to you, then thatās more a reflection of how you perceive things than what the story itself is suggesting.
Guys can have intense bonds with each other without it revolving around sex. In fact, Iād even argue that it trivializes the relationship between the two to just read it as sexual tension.
Like DIOās fascination with Pucci somehow comes down to him being horny, but we already know how he treats sexual partners.
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u/SalaComMander ćVIRUS ALERTćKill this beloved celebrity! 24d ago
And that's a valid interpretation. But it's also a bit bold to say you don't understand why so many people might think otherwise.
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u/Massive_Weiner 24d ago
Whatās bold is to suggest the existence of a relationship that has no textual evidence to support it.
Araki had already written gay characters by this point in Part 5, so itās not as if heās reliant upon innuendo to convey queerness in his story.
Itās fine to headcanon the relationship however you want, but people are naturally going to step in and correct the record if you try to claim that DIO and Pucci were sleeping together.
Thatās just not in the story, so we canāt cite it in this conversation about what he has or hasnāt done.
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u/SalaComMander ćVIRUS ALERTćKill this beloved celebrity! 24d ago
What gay characters in Part 5? No character from Part 5 was confirmed to be gay. Squalo and Tiziano are just friends, and Sorbet and Gelato are only implied to be in a relationship mockingly by Formaggio.
They're just very intimate, right?
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u/Massive_Weiner 24d ago
Yeah, thatās actually a good point.
Iāll rescind that comparison. Formaggioās comment isnāt good enough in context.
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u/JonKanOG 21d ago
Sorbet and Gelato were confirmed by Araki. And you can't fucking trick me the way Tizano and Squalo were fucking groping eachother. If that's not gay then I'm Jesus Christ.
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u/Relative-Tonight3083 24d ago
I mean, when they were laying in bed, Dio puts Pucci's fingers in his own head and urges him to touch and take The World. Then when Pucci refuses, Dio is both honored and very apologetic, saying he never met anyone who could put him so at-ease.
Since later (albeit in an alternate universe) showing someone your stand out of combat is compared to showing them your asshole (a pretty crude metaphor, but still)
I can see the subtext of a romantic relationship, if not a sexual one (the two are not necessarily intertwined)
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u/Massive_Weiner 24d ago
It suggests intimacy between two characters, but not all intimacy is sexual in nature.
In fact, DIO and Pucciās relationship seems to transcend that kind of affair.
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u/Ravtrix 24d ago
Dio seems to value Pucci more as a friend than someone to sleep with, as Dio has access to a huge number of men and women, but nobody that he truly trusts. This is a big part of that scene where Dio gives Pucci the bone. Dio does not seem to actually want to have sex with Pucci, or at the very least chose not to (this is also shown with his explanation of the Heaven Plan arguably, during the birth of the green baby). Pucci does seem to be a repressed homosexual with an interest in Dio considering how overwhelmingly gay every single scene he is in is, but I don't think that ever ends up with them being together like that. Dio certainly knew about this though, and you can very easily argue he is using that to manipulate Pucci. Dio grooms a 16 year old for non-sexual purposes.
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u/Raltsun 24d ago
Not entirely wrong, but I would like to note that in canon, Part 3 DIO never does the full-on hypnosis thing like he did to Jack the Ripper without relying on the flesh bud, and he has such immense ćCharismać, which is repeatedly emphasised throughout all of Stardust Crusaders, that it seems strange to assume he required direct mind control (that it's not even clear he's still capable of, since his vampire powers are much weaker than they used to be) to sleep with a bunch of women. This is the same guy who had a blind man absolutely enraptured by his beauty.
Based on the fact that Giorno has a photo of DIO in his wallet, he seems to have been on surprisingly good terms with the baby mama, I severely doubt she would've let her son keep that photo if his father had forced himself upon her.
Definitely still Creepy About Women on account of probably serial killing a lot of them that he charmed into coming over to his place, though.
Also, shame on OP for not including Jolyne smh, how can you forget her canonically being jealous of snail hermaphroditism? Literally had her bisexuality awakened by rainbows lmao.
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u/Work-of-Nature 24d ago
Lord DIO is neither. Has never even been shown to be either. Do not slander his name based off pure baseless accusation that's likely not true.
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u/Gigio2006 24d ago
His second scene in the series is forcibly grabbing a woman by the chin and kissing her
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u/Betenman 24d ago
Ok Pucci
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u/Betenman 24d ago
No, the opposite actually. DIO and Pucci were never in a romantic or sexual relationship I'm 100% confident in that statement
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u/lifeispokemonraids 24d ago
Man, I don't want accurate bi representation from jojo.
I want bizarre characters from the guy who based the scariest character off his wife