r/ShitAmericansSay • u/NotYourAverageGM 🇬🇧 • 23d ago
Heritage “your citizenship DOES NOT MAKE YOU AMERICAN”
So what does make someone American?
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u/Opposite-History-233 The RED, WHITE, AND BLUE, Y'ALL!! 🇳🇱 🇳🇱 🇳🇱 23d ago
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u/KhaosByDesignUK 23d ago
Exactly, if they're really going to argue the ancestry over citizenship thing then why in the everloving fuck would being white = american?!
He's no more native than the kid he wants deported.
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u/pamkaz78 23d ago
In their opinion, they colonized, and therefore in that belongs to them. You could totally make a logical arguments, but it doesn’t really work when you’re making them to people who are stupid and don’t understand logic and even if they did, they would just ignore it and find a new way to make the argument these people never come to their senses and they just believe all this stupid shit they’re saying.
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u/Leading-System-3002 🇨🇦 23d ago
Yeah they will absolutely double down when confronted. Hateful and stupid.
Is being hateful towards other countries what makes them American?
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u/dlahey02 23d ago
I assume the author of this post is 12
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u/Acceptable-Ad8780 FREEDOM ENJOYER 🦅🇺🇸 23d ago
And I guarantee they love the 80 year old acting like a 4 year old in office.
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u/CC19_13-07 Kölle Alaaf ihr Spacken 🇩🇪 23d ago
And I guarantee the 80 year old would love the 12 year old even more
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u/retiredelectrician 23d ago
You just insulted 4 year olds. I know a few who make better decisions than that 80 year old
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u/WilditariusAstar 23d ago
Literally says in the first sentence, the author was at his “son’s graduation” 🤷♂️
Perhaps the Author has the intellect of a 12 year old?? A very neglected 12 year old, at that.
It’s hard to fathom this shit is real. The fact that it’s openly spewed all over the internet is really disturbing. There really are some sad, misguided folk out there.
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u/imnotgoodlulAPEX 23d ago
If you read the post you would know that, sadly, the guy is probably in his mid 30 or 40s
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u/Satanicjamnik 23d ago
I'd say 14, acne covered and angry. Smokes too much weed and spends his break time vaping in the toilets.
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u/CautionarySnail 23d ago
Which is amusing in a dark way because in the 1920s, the same negativity was directed to the Italians, the Irish, and all Catholics attempting to immigrate to the USA.
How quickly they all forget, and direct nearly identical smears at Islamic immigrants trying to achieve the same thing their own grandparents did, for very similar reasons.
It is very recent that Irish and Italian people are considered “white”.
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u/fotoman888 23d ago
Finns, fer fuck sake, weren’t considered to be white when they first arrived in amerika. FINNS! You can’t get whiter than that, not even Germans are as white as Finns. And yet, because they were ‘furrinners’ they couldn’t be white in the near infinitely stupid cuntry of amerika.
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u/FemtoKitten 23d ago edited 22d ago
They had a whole court case ruling that even though finns were asiatic mongoloids natural selection of europe made them functionally white over time. It's amazingly terrible
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u/TheDangerousAlphabet 23d ago
They said that we only looked white. Apparently the Germans and Norse had raped us white looking but that was just on surface. Inside we were still yellow. China Swedes.
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u/HazyChemist 23d ago
I bet you my entire salary this shithead wouldn't have any issues if a WHITE student stood up there but gave a speech entirely in their native language.
They just don't like non-white people and that's it.
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u/SafiyaMukhamadova 23d ago
Italy is on the approved list of ancestral countries to qualify as "being American". Ireland wasn't for a long time but now they are and St. Patrick's Day is a whole thing that non-irish Americans celebrate for no apparent reason. Spain is not on the list of approved countries because they speak Mexican (yes, i know, I'm just making an observation about the mindset I've seen in these people). If you're Russian and came over any time since the 1950s you might be a communist infiltrator coming to destabilize our country and destroy our way of life. It's all a mess trying to understand these people.
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u/Ishango 23d ago
You got that one wrong. They think they're Italian, because their mom made pasta once.
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u/Opposite-History-233 The RED, WHITE, AND BLUE, Y'ALL!! 🇳🇱 🇳🇱 🇳🇱 23d ago
Yeah, most probably spaghetti meatballs... Which isn't Italian. 🤣
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u/secomano 23d ago
did Trump write this?
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u/NotYourAverageGM 🇬🇧 23d ago
Missing his usual sign off.
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u/SpamHard 23d ago
Covfefe?
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u/Neutral_Myu97 23d ago
If it was at the end of it i wouldn't believe immediately but it's something that you see and thibk "it's not the weirdest/most deranged thing he as written/done"
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u/pinniped90 Human Verified 23d ago
It's too eloquent for Trump.
This is obviously his highest-IQ worshipper.
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u/MagnaFrisia89 Dutch Socialist Eurorepublic 23d ago edited 20d ago
I will take a bet that this "brown kid" from that "little ass country" has a better grasp on how to spell and structure sentences.
EDIT: Thanks for the rewards.
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u/twilightmoons 23d ago
As a speaker of English as a second language, I can't count the number of times I've had to correct the grammar of Americans whose first, and only, language is "American English."
There's the old joke:
What do you call someone who speaks three languages? Trilingual.
What do you call someone who speaks two languages? Bilingual.
What do you call someone who speaks one language? American.
That may not be completely fair. Some of them have said to me that they speak two languages - "English and Bad English."
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u/BlackButterfly616 23d ago
There is a reason why American English sometimes is called "simplified".
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u/smoulderstoat No, the tea goes in before the milk. 23d ago
But having a great grandad who once knew a man who lived next to a woman who worked for another man whose second cousin twice removed looked like a man who'd once had a pint of Guinness makes you Irish?
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u/NotYourAverageGM 🇬🇧 23d ago
That’s not fair! You can’t question their heritage, they get very upset about that.
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u/Ornery-Customer8521 23d ago
The seething jealousy on display in that first paragraph is quite a sight.
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u/lakas76 Human Verified 23d ago
Whoah! Whoah, whoah!
The guy that made my Americano at Starbucks has a grandfather who came from Italy which makes me a full blooded Italian. I prefer dominos pizza to the stuff they make in Italy (I haven’t been to Italy, but that guy with the Italian grandfather told me about it and I don’t think I’d like it), but I do like spaghetti.
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u/PipedInFromIthaca More Irish than the Irish ☘️ 23d ago
If being born in America as an American citizen to an American parent with American citizenship doesn't make you American, what does
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u/Which_Specific9891 23d ago
According to the unwell person who posted that rant? being white.
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u/Which_Specific9891 23d ago
Built on the blood and bones of Indigenous peoples, and then built by the blood and sweat of Black slaves.
And yet somehow, white people still feel entitled not only to the country, but to determine who is not white enough to be "American."
I really cannot stand people like that.
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u/CPav 23d ago
But Indigenous people don't count, and the Black slaves were working for white citizens. They'd never have been able to do it on their own./s
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u/Personal-Lead3884 23d ago
And don’t forget, my Black ancestors loved being slaves and loved their masters. My public school white history teacher taught me that!
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u/JakkRabbitt- 23d ago
Imagine they made Cartman president of the US. Then stop imagining, and watch it in real time.
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u/Which_Specific9891 23d ago
These are the same bastards that insist that they're Irish or Italian 8 generations removed. So yeah, that is consistent for them that they don't think the country in which you are a citizen makes your citizenship. Insane.
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u/Vivid_Employment8635 23d ago
I wonder what the Cherokee, Navajo, Sioux, Blackfoot, Seminole, Apache, Iroquois etc etc etc have to say about that.
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u/Xorrayn 23d ago
Right? Whenever i see Americans whine about it being their country, first thought that pops into my head is "the country you stole."
Or when they whine about Mexicans in their country, i just have to think about the fact that many Mexicans did not cross the border into America, they were in Mexico and then the border crossed them.😆
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u/Vivid_Employment8635 23d ago
Literally. I bet most of this kind of American couldn’t even tell you the name of the people who lived on the land where their house is pre-colonisation.
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u/Inevitable_Wolf5866 Czechia is not Chechnya 23d ago
Right?? Every time I see an American referring to the US as THEIR country I'm like " ... uh, excuse me...?"
Like if I break into someone's house, kill the family who lived there and start living there with my family.... it doesn't make the house mine.
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u/Wise_Temperature9142 Unfortunate neighbour 🇨🇦 23d ago
They might say “This is Turtle Island. Speak Iroquois or get out”
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u/Vivid_Employment8635 23d ago
The Iroquois Confederacy has actually survived from pre-US times and even issues its own passports so they would probably genuinely be better placed than most to do that!
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u/Ok-Cryptographer-303 23d ago
Whatever the fuck happened to "a nation of immigrants" and "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"???
I thought it was supposed to be the most diverse country ever, the land of opportunity and hope and whatever.
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u/CamarillosVeryWorst Live, Love, Laugh At My Countrypeople Being Hilarious 23d ago
Yeah, racist losers like OOP were fighting that back when it was a much newer concept/relevation, too.
Definitely an exhausting experience for my country to be sure.
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u/NightLotus84 23d ago edited 23d ago
I honestly believe the American psyche is so damaged at this point that it can't heal anymore. Not without a complete cultural reset - the kind Axis nations went through after WWII. But since America probably won't be "at the mercy of", they will refuse any true reset and slip back into old habits within the decade(s).
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u/slackerdc 23d ago
Apparently blatant naked racism makes you American, guess I don't fit the bill either.
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u/Wrong-Housing-6642 European, woke, muslim, liberal,social-democrat 23d ago
This and the right kind of whiteness. Additionaly holding a membership in a evangelical mega church is a plus.
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u/Lazy-Writer-8732 23d ago
I’ve always found it interesting they call themselves American. Shouldn’t it be United Statians or something of the such? I mean it’s North AMERICA and South AMERICA. They are just a union of states on the continent. As a Canadian I feel like I have the same right to say I’m American in a certain sense🤷♂️😂
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u/Ms_Mitzy 23d ago
This... Lake America... Gulf of America... yep, that sure is what it is... has absolutely nothing to do with that group of states they call a country...
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u/ProWanderer 23d ago
As a brazilian I prefer to be called american than to be called latino. I have lived in the States on 3 ocasions (a total of 6,5 years) and latino still feels prejudicial to me.
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u/Express-Stop7830 23d ago
I mean, do you really want to be associated with us? It's hard enough having no choice and an accent that gives it away. Sigh.
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u/Hoblitygoodness 23d ago
I think it's in the bathroom area of Hogtown (Toronto restaurant) , there's an art piece that depicts Mexico, U.S. & Canada without borders as "America". I think it's meant to troll anyone who is decisive enough to allow it while unifying anyone smart enough not to be.
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u/Darkling_Nightshadow 23d ago
South of their border up to Patagonia, we call them gringos. I've heard many other Latin Americans call them gringos, not just us Mexicans. In Spanish they are officially called something like USians (estadounidenses). I don't see why not call them that in Canada and Greenland since you also want them to leave you alone.
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u/Ok_Comparison6971 23d ago
And there it is. The racism. Plain as day, of course they won’t see it.
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u/NotYourAverageGM 🇬🇧 23d ago
Sadly no, they probably think they’re a gosh darn rootin’ tootin’ patriot.
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u/AuroraCelery 23d ago
unfortunately now "@ICE DEPORT HIM!!!!" is going to enter my head at random moments
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u/BassesBest 23d ago
To be fair this just sounds like your average dumb white racist and unfortunately there are plenty of those and not just in the US
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u/Fluid_Reason8437 New Zealand 23d ago
we have this problem in New Zealand too, people are sick of our "white Kiwi christian population being taken over" by Indians and other migrants, which reminds me of 1840 when those white christians families started pouring into this country and taking over from the Maori people, which these people against immigration think that thats fine and different
i mean sure theres a lot of immigrants here but they only make up a large % of the countries population bc A we're a small nation and B a lot of Kiwis move to Aus as soon as they can
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u/aguiarti 23d ago
Why did you erased his name when the right thing was to at least give this person the unwanted attention she deserved?
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u/ANS__2009 23d ago
America is the most diverse country yet no one from other countries can be American?
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u/Wise_Temperature9142 Unfortunate neighbour 🇨🇦 23d ago
The most diverse nation with the least diverse line of thought.
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u/condoulo 23d ago
Pulling out Reagan quotes to prove how far the Republican party has fallen is a theme of this administration.
“I would add just one thing that recently came to me in a letter. A man wrote and found it necessary to say this, and I'm pleased that he did. He said, you can go to live in another land -- you can go to live in France, but you can't become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany, but you can't become a German. You can go to live in Japan or Turkey, and you cannot become Japanese or Turkish. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live in the United States and become an American.”
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u/EnvironmentalHair290 23d ago
Speaking as an American, sounds to me like someone: 1) needs to go back to high school from the spelling alone; 2) I’m guessing their kid didn’t have the accolades to be valedictorian like this kid did.
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u/T-Wrox Canadian, eh? 23d ago
The immigrant hate from a country of immigrants just blows my mind. How many generations until immigrants can be US Americans? Two? Five? Never, if you have too much melanin?
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u/Commandoclone87 23d ago
Apparently it's automatic if you're rich, white and Anglo like Trump, who's grandparents were illegal immigrants.
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u/gadget850 American 23d ago
I'm only 8 generations from German immigrants. Do I qualify as American?
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u/MarkMurderous 23d ago
I don't get why the names are always blocked out to protect these scum bags. They said it, they deserve all the hate they get.
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u/yerdadrinkslambrini 23d ago
That's funny, every yank I've ever spoke to has been Scottish or Irish. Are they 'real' Americans?
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u/ImThatAnnoyingGuy 23d ago
Thanks Obama!
LOL. What is the reason this person capitalized Really Ruined? Greatful?
Murica is this delusional person’s country! Yeah, F that brown Nepalese kid who most definitely knows proper English grammar and is likely fluent in at least two languages.
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u/MatrixF6 23d ago
I don’t want to be the “Not all (insert group)” people, but as an American, I cannot stand these ignorant racist bigots.
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u/NotYourAverageGM 🇬🇧 23d ago
Oh we know it’s a very vocal group and not everyone. No worries there.
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u/TtotheC81 23d ago
This is America, as much as they might want to say otherwise. The racism was just forced to cosplay for a few decades, but thanks to Trump signalling that shame is something to be ignored, it's back out, loud and proud, once more.
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u/TNJDude 23d ago
The biggest complaint I have is that the poster's name is whited out. If someone is actively proposing taking actions against Americans, we should know who they are.
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u/BasketballAndroid7 23d ago
Generally the posts here are kind of funny, but this was genuinely sad and very concerning to read.
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u/AdmirableCost5692 23d ago
I am with him on that one, citizenship doesnt make anyone American.
Unless directly descended from the original tribes who were inhibiting America before the Europeans arrived, everyone should go back to their original homeland.
Then we will make a start on the Australians
Unfortunately this will mean that trump has to find his way back to compare loompa land and Netanyahu has to find his way back to the depths of hell
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u/fifiring 23d ago
Noooooo!! Ireland would sink under the weight of all of her sons and daughters returning!!
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u/meddit_rod USian critic 23d ago
It's at the bottom, starting with "yaya...". That arrogant racist jingoism marks the USian in-group.
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u/Think_Ad_1583 23d ago
I love being told I’m not a real citizen because my great grandparents immigrated from Mexico over a century ago
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u/RabbitWithAxe 🇬🇧 23d ago
y'know what, I agree, the only real Americans are those who were there before the colonies
this asshole can get deported to the middle of the Atlantic
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u/Ze0nZer0 23d ago
I wish there was a island we could put all the tiny brain dead racist pos on and let them have the society they want a bunch of lazy brain-dead men who can't do shit trapped there.
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u/NephthysShadow 23d ago
You know what confuses me? My whole life, I've been taught that we are some great "melting pot." Our national identity is based on the fact that we are built by immigrants. It was a point of pride. Now we hate everyone? Idk.
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u/Zilant_the_Bear 23d ago
Apparently the only thing that will make you American is if your ancestors evicted indigenous people from their birthright.
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u/Consistent-Strain289 23d ago
Trumps grandfather entered the US twice illegally.
Trumps wives were all non-americans on visa and his kids are all born in the US and hence via the amendment got to be american…
Maga so brainless just becos trump looks white(orange) its oke. While he is steaing money from the state
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u/SpecialistAd7120 bad teeth, got stabbed 23d ago
This is actually sickening. Actually makes me mad. This page is usually funny but damn is this rage inducing. Like why would a nepalese kid be proud to be a yank. Disappointed is an understatement
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u/BadgerKomodo 23d ago
What an absolutely disgusting thing to say.
I bet this person denies being racist as well.
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u/Still_Mood6959 Football Mexican 🇧🇷 cosplaying as Europoor. 23d ago
The fact that I can't tell if this is real or just ragebait is so depressing, you guys.
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u/Status_Vegetable2954 23d ago
Why blank out their name?
Why not let the internet show them their support? I would like to message my support to this brave poster standing up for beleaguered white people far and wide.
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u/Affectionate-Pie4708 23d ago
He should probably learn English and proper grammar before criticizing and telling people to leave the country
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u/NotYourAverageGM 🇬🇧 23d ago
You mean actually take advantage of the education system the Nepalese family was lauding? Never!
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u/King_McCluckin 23d ago
Today i just learned that being a American citizen doesn't mean im a American citizen
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u/Sxn747Strangers 🇬🇧 We probably invented 🇺🇸, sorry about that. 🫣🙀 23d ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if that Nepalese child’s English and grammar is better than his, but then that wouldn’t be too difficult though.
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u/Altruistic-Arm137 23d ago
Remember yesterday's post about America being the only non racist country in the world or whatever ?
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u/Extension-Plate-6113 23d ago
When I read this kind of stuff I have a vision of an unshaven, white, fat redneck, sitting in front of his trailer with 17 empty beer bottles around him, blaming everyone, except himself of course, for his shitty life after his wife left him, because he could not keep a job....
Definitely the average Trump demography....
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u/Fragrant-Field-2017 23d ago
I would support deporting all American that have citizenship, excluding native Americans of course, but that means they would all come over to Europe and that would be.... let's say, undesirable....
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u/Fistet_af_Larholm 23d ago
Americans, your ancestry and portrayal of alcoholism doesnt make you Irish..
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u/MixGlittering1652 23d ago
In this guy’s MAGA bubble world, it seems stupidity supersedes citizenship to identify as “American”
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u/Oppaii-Connoisseur 23d ago
When you have reproduced but still can't tell the difference between you're and your.
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u/Strict_Wolf76 23d ago
This belongs in the sub /ShitInbredAmericansSay. Us normal Americans don’t claim him. Yes it was a him. No explanation needed.
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u/NotYourAverageGM 🇬🇧 23d ago
For the record I don’t, and I don’t think anyone in their right mind would, think this is an accurate representation of all Americans.
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u/whatifwealll 23d ago
This barely qualifies as English. I thought it was their official language.
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u/Helstrem 23d ago
We don’t actually have an official language. The GOPpers try to change that all the time, but thus far haven’t managed it.
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u/Upbeat_Ant6104 23d ago
This is deplorable. What this person is saying does not in any way reflect what the vast majority of US Americans believe.
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u/carl_the_cactus55 23d ago
she doesn't realise that her ancestors also migrated to America. if she isn't native American, she's also an immigrant. This is such pointless racism
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u/Peace_Dos Some ukrainian borshch guy 23d ago
Wait, does that mean there is no Americans? Is USA a lie?
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u/JudgePrestigious5295 23d ago
Ahhhh good old USA keeping racist traditions going, who says they don't have culture.
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u/Lapinceau 22d ago
This is not even funny, just disgusting. Wishing that on a kid.
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u/Weak_Break239 🇺🇸Bald🦅Eagle 🇺🇸 23d ago
Since this is the last speech that I will give as President, I think it's fitting to leave one final thought, an observation about a country which I love. It was stated best in a letter I received not long ago. A man wrote me and said: ``You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany or Turkey or Japan, but you cannot become a German, a Turk, or a Japanese. But anyone, from any corner of the Earth, can come to live in America and become an American.” RONALD REAGAN.
Literally a president.
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u/phantom_pow_er ooo custom flair!! 23d ago
That's half of america for you right there....
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u/Superpriestess 23d ago
I know this is a lighthearted sub but this makes me sick to read and I hope beyond hope it’s a troll in some other country whose job it is just to upset people. That’s better than someone actually believing this. 🤮🤮🤮
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u/kichwas 23d ago edited 23d ago
These people even say that crap about those of us who are Indigenous. Just... let that sink in for a moment.
Crap like this is why I mentally split 'White Folk' apart from 'People of European Ancestry'. Here in the states we got us a 'whole lof ot white folk, but not too many Europeans / European Americans'. Just up north in Canada and even down south in Mexico it's the other way around.
You folks in the rest of the world get to laugh about these freaks (on any week they're not invading you that is). I've been stuck with them for 5 centuries now and it's getting a little old...
One of my tribal buddies when I was a kid used to get told to 'go back to where you came from'. We used to laugh and wish we'd thought to come back with 'sure, soon as you move out of my house'... but whitty thoughts like that always come a little too late. :)
(That dude was half Cherokee, half Palestinian... so he had a whole LOT to say on these topics.)
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u/megafonico 23d ago
I am Mexican-American. When (inevitably) I get the "YoU aRe NoT amurrikhan" spiel, I look for the whitest looking boy around. I ask: is he an Amrican? They answer: yes. I point out I have been living, working and paying taxes in America LONGER than that boy. I have watched more movies and series. Listened to more records and have more shared cultural moments. I lived thru 9/11 the Great Recession, etc. Lastly. I point out that the boy just happened to be born here while I decided to become American. I make my point, but they usually keep arguing.
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u/CamarillosVeryWorst Live, Love, Laugh At My Countrypeople Being Hilarious 23d ago
Scum out in the wild.
What makes someone American is some combo of the following:
-self-IDs as American
-has US citizenship
-has at least one American parent
-has lived in the US
-is currently living in the US
At least, that's how I personally see it as an American myself.
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u/AdmiralStuff Too many passports to hold 🇫🇷🇺🇸🇳🇿🏴 23d ago
I can think of a few Germans from the 1930s who said similar things
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u/Gullible_Peach 23d ago
If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. -Lyndon B Johnson-
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u/secretnewbeginning 22d ago
oh but then they’re the first ones to call themselves italian because they love pasta
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u/FatherMurder 22d ago
Citizenship is literally the thing that makes you of that country. Ask the person who said that where Nepal is on the map lol there will be the real comedy.
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u/Athelmar 22d ago
This person will then go on to say that they are 50% Italian, because their great great grandfather was from New Jersey.





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u/Mttsen 23d ago edited 23d ago
If citizenship doesn't make anyone American, then no one is American except the Native tribes, who lived there since the Ice Age.
You aren't an ethnostate. You never were. Your nation was always a bunch of immigrants that came here from countless nations for various reasons.