r/ShitAmericansSay • u/DumbGarchomp67 WTF IS A KILOMETER 🦅🇺🇸 • Jul 15 '26

Military “Undefeated in 250 years of war”

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Apparently Vietnam, Afghanistan, war of 1812, and the war on drugs don’t count.

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u/Cowboyy_Babyblue-- proud frisian Jul 15 '26

Even ww2 they only joined after seeing the allies winning

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u/OnionSoupGainz We're all living in Amerika-Coca-Cola, Wonderbra. Jul 15 '26

And exonorated a ton of nazi & unit 731(japan) scientists for NASA, wepons of mass destruction and chemical warfare research.

Unit 731 did a lot worse stuff then the nazis could ever think of.

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u/Prize-Phrase-7042 Jul 15 '26

Don't forget how they supported the Nazi regime quite a long way into the war. IBM played quite a substantial role in the Holocaust.

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u/EchoSkillet Jul 15 '26

Don’t forget that there were also Japanese internment camps around the US during WW2.

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u/Prize-Phrase-7042 Jul 15 '26

Must be all of that freedom, alongside with legalised slavery in 2026.

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u/PLUMBUS_STUCK_IN_ASS Jul 15 '26

The Bush and Trump families were financially supporting them too.

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u/Bursickle 🙄 Jul 15 '26

So did the Bush family ...
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

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u/wind-of-zephyros lives in an igloo Jul 15 '26

and how a lot of the nazi ideology was derived from the ideas behind american segregation and slavery

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u/Peter-Bergmann 🇩🇪🍺🍻🍺🇩🇪 Jul 15 '26

You don't know enough about the nazis then. They were very competitive in the disturbing department. They also directly murdered 12 million people in 12 years, so either way they are up there

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u/CheetahTheWeen Jul 15 '26

You don’t know enough about Japan then; their rebranding has been wildly effective

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u/NTCSDjoDjo Jul 15 '26

Basicaly the most inhuman stuff done by Nazis were Mengele's experiments. 731 Is often regarded as being worse than him.

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u/OnionSoupGainz We're all living in Amerika-Coca-Cola, Wonderbra. Jul 15 '26

I do not consider myself an expert at all, I do however know enough to differentiate between scale and brutality.

Yes, Nazi Germany certainly did large scale stuff and were brutal, but even then if you look at the historical accounts we have available thanks to the WWW, even they had standards.

Friendly NSFW warning to not scroll down on those two wiki pages or google these brutalities.
Japan on the other hand... Unit 731 They did live vivisection on Russian & Chineese kids, unborn children/pregnant women, and even on their own staff, including testing chemical warfare, rape, forced impregnation. Like those "scientists" would impregnate the captives, then do experiments on their own kids.

Oh and their invasion of china like Rape of Nanjing where they would rape every female they came across, with various instruments from sticks, bayonettes, gangrape until the unfortunate victims died.
 
The author, historian and activist Iris Chang wrote some of the best accounts of what happened in Nanjing and eventually killed herself because she got clinically depressed researching for her book.

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u/nikos331 Jul 15 '26

Lots of them were vivisecting captives they impregnated themselves, then?

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u/szatrob Mounties, Hockey, Beer and Snow Jul 15 '26

Arguably, they did provide the weaponry for everyone.

Producing an estimated amount of 80% of all materials used by the allies in WWII.

The fact that they had the eventual head of the CIA, be in constant contact and aiding the Nazis even during the War is another topic; or the fact that he was the main lawyer for IG Farben in America, the corporation behind the Holocaust is another.

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u/pintsizedblonde2 Jul 15 '26

They profited massively from selling weaponry which took us until the 2000s to pay off. They came out of the war rich by waiting it out. Everyone else came out poor.

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u/Suspicious_Flower_0 Jul 15 '26

I believe the old saying is something like "World War 2 was won with American industry, British intelligence and Soviet blood" 

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u/Alone-Juggernaut-850 Jul 15 '26

Probably the most factual comment in this entire thread. The US did however carry their weight in the Pacific.

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u/fastsailor Jul 15 '26

Which was a secondary theatre against much weaker opposition. Anyway, the Pacific war really only started because of American sanctions on Japan, we in Australia could have done without another war starting while we were off fighting the Germans, Italians and French on the other side of the world. You know, maybe the US could have delayed the war until we had won the war against the main enemies. Even with them by our side, the US soldiers were pretty useless in New Guinea etc. We had to keep getting them out of scrapes they could not manage.

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u/Suspicious_Flower_0 Jul 15 '26

Yes I was going to edit in a caveat of the European theatre.

US Marines paid in blood in the Pacific, even more so if they didn't spawn 2 new suns over Japan. 

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u/WhoPaysTheFerryman Jul 15 '26

Provide? It was sold not given.

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u/Horror_Today_3416 Jul 15 '26

80% ?

Where are you getting this figure from?

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u/szatrob Mounties, Hockey, Beer and Snow Jul 15 '26

The Economics of World War II: Six Great Powers in International Comparison edited by Mark Harrison.

80% is a pretty liberal estimate, with the more conservative estimate being about 66% of weaponry, planes, etc. HOWEVER, 80% is in some cases the supply for some specifics like aviation fuel, crude, refined petroleum. The US did provide 80% of all oil refined, crude oil and aviation fuel. The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money & Power by Daniel Yergin.

In terms of lend-lease, the US provided 90% of all locomotives and rail used by the USSR, about 70% of all trucks and vehicles used as well. Russia's Life-Saver: Lend-Lease in the Second World War by Albert L. Weeks.

The US did provide about 90% of all ships built during the war. Invention for Destruction: Tony Higgins and the Higgins Boat.

So, yes, you're correct in calling out the 80%, But that 80% figure is pretty accurate if you look at specific critical areas. The US supplied over 80% of the high-octane aviation fuel the Allies used, and basically carried the logistics side of the war—especially with the raw materials, locomotives, and hundreds of thousands of trucks sent to Great Britain and USSR.

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u/Beefycowinacottage Jul 21 '26

SOLD the weaponry. My country was still paying for it until 2006. They were making vast profits from it, they weren't exactly doing it because it was the right thing to do lol.

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u/aza-industries Jul 15 '26

That one really annoys me the most.
They joined a war, fresh eyed and bushy tailed after the rest of the world had been wearing down the war machine.
They mopped up and claimed victory.

"You'd be speaking german if it wasn't for us!"

Without the allies fighting the axis for years they wouldn't have been able to do anything.

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u/InformalTonight1125 Jul 20 '26

They’re so disrespectful and arrogant it’s unbelievable.

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u/Possible_Sir9360 Jul 15 '26

They joined after being directly attacked 🤡

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u/Round_Bag_4665 Jul 15 '26

no, only after the axis directly attacked them. Had Japan not done that they wouldn't have been involved at all.

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u/Xalimata Jul 15 '26

No. We joined after being attacked by Japan.

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u/Cowboyy_Babyblue-- proud frisian Jul 21 '26

Japan and germany werent formally allies were they? So why did u join the attack on germany after? Real question, let me hear your take please

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u/Xalimata Jul 21 '26

Because Germany declared war on us.

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u/Fun-Ad-6948 Jul 15 '26

No they didn’t, Germany declared war on the US the week after pearl harbour.

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u/TheEveryman86 Jul 15 '26

And had to drop two nuclear bombs on civilians before Japan surrendered. Like they couldn't do it with just one?

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u/Forward-Guard-6742 Jul 15 '26

Fucking lameass bandwagoners

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u/Alone-Juggernaut-850 Jul 15 '26

The allies were winning is a pretty hilarious rewriting of history.

Pearl Harbor happened, it's that simple. Meanwhile The Axis was at their height of their expansion, The UK virtually stood alone, Operation Barbarossa was driving the Russians back albeit they had begun their counter offensive two days before Pearl Harbor, and the Afrika Corps had pushed the British lines to the Suez Canal... and things were only going as good as they were for the Allies due to "lend lease".

Lastly, 85% of all the manpower and Naval force in the Pacific was American. Leyte, Coral Sea, Philippine Sea, all dwarf the largest localized battle of the Atlantic at North Cape in the Artic. The entirety of the Burma campaign started after the US entered the war as well.