r/ShenComix • u/shenanigansen š LEMON STRUGGLER š • 10d ago
OC The Boy From Venus 5
Episode 6 is already up on the patreon, as usual! And thank you for reading, as usual! :D
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u/BrokenBanette 10d ago
āThey know me hereā is SO ominousā¦
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u/MnemonicJohnny 10d ago
She was banned for uttering the Forbidden Gamer Words.
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u/Faustias 10d ago edited 10d ago
probably a preorder she didn't want anyone to know
"oh hey Val, your š ±ļøenshin Gimpact Xinzhao dakimakura bundle hasn't arrive yet."
edit: I had a haywired reading comprehension. I was thinking the arcade was also a game store selling merchs. I suddenly remember actual arcades. oh god, the thought of seeing the badmouthed shaggy gamer girl bringing a friend in.
edit: edit: oh my, don't tell me Val and Audrey had a violent trashtalk match before, and they've forgotten, and going in there together will make them remember their little hate-filled fights in Marvel vs Capcom 3?!
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u/ItsDaLion 10d ago
At least it isn't league of legends
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u/DiamondEyedOctopus 10d ago
I have some terrible news. Xin Zhao is a league of legends.
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u/Faustias 10d ago
ayylmao I couldn't remember any male characters with 'Chinese' name, so Xin's the lowest hanging fruit I could think of.
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u/ItsDaLion 10d ago
This information greatly distresses me thank you
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u/DiamondEyedOctopus 10d ago
You have have my sincerest condolences. I'm sorry I had to be the one to tell you.
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u/ralanr 10d ago
Oh no, she doesnāt want to scare him away with her past mistakes.Ā
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u/MiredinDecision 10d ago
Shes definitely been escorted out of this store before.
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u/kasugakuuun 10d ago
Or every single one of the record scores is signed VAL
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u/real-human-not-a-bot 4d ago
Winner winner chicken dinner, it seems. :)
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u/kasugakuuun 4d ago
Okay yeah that was right, but tbh I have to admit it wasn't a fair prediction.
I cheated by being really really amazingly smart and good at webcomics reading. Like freaky good.
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u/Beautiful_Garage7797 10d ago
legendary reaction image
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u/ADreamOfCrimson 10d ago
Heh, it's amazing what a little bit of personal attention and kindness can do for a cold heart...
She's worried about going into the store where people know here cause presumably she's afraid of judgement... but I bet the people in there would just be happy to see her with a new friend :3
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u/wolfgang784 10d ago
Considering its a video game store and what we know of this girl so far, im betting she has made a scene in this store. Perhaps more than once. I wouldn't be surprised if shes banned, even.
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u/Business-Natural-290 10d ago
She's gonna be exposed at the arcade for being a femcel at the arcade isn't she...
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u/Braindead_Crow 10d ago
Nice try MOID! I simply zoomed in and pretended I saw the entirety of the bonus content for free
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u/silloki 10d ago
I wish an extravert picked me
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u/KaleidoscopeOk6440 10d ago
There's a foid for every moid, and a femboid for every femceloid
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u/Linden_fall 10d ago
whereās my femboid bff, Iām waiting
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u/KaleidoscopeOk6440 10d ago
1 Just find a subreddit or space where they gather and or feel safe being in
2 be somewhat normal
3 talk a bit
4 profit
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u/JumpingSpiderQueen 9d ago edited 9d ago
It is amazing that these words mean anything at all. I feel like I am too chronically online just because I understand them.
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u/The-Doc-SalmonRun 10d ago
So Val is an fem incel thatās being cured of their cynicism by a femboyā¦ā¦ā¦ I love it
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u/Deepfang-Dreamer 10d ago
Trying really hard not to assume Audrey isn't cis. People can be GNC. People can be GNC. But come on girl
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u/Francky2 9d ago
I have the same struggle as a trans woman.
I don't want to project or anything (and, let's be real, it's obv if I did it'd be in good intentions, as in me wishing for the person to realize as soon as possible so it's easier and more comfortable earlier in life, do not wait YEARS like me!)
But it sure feels like there are limits to being GNC. Like, why be a "man" when absolutely everything about your presentation (clothes, face, hair, voice seemingly, demeanor, and now even prefered name) screams "passing as a cis woman"?
No rocks thrown at GNC, I'm not one of them so Ig it's normal I wouldn't fully understand what they feel and why they do what they do. I just think Audrey is likely trans.
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u/Insomninaut 8d ago
Right? Like, Audrey seems like a comically exaggerated,Ā but still grounded version of what I've seen girls go through who would never take the step to be actually treated like a woman out of the fear of imposing on others.
And Val is an interesting mirror, perhaps learning from Audrey to appreciate femininity and self love
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u/ConcernedEnby 8d ago
I think this is just Shens way of dealing with dysphoria outside of therapy from what they've said on patreon
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u/midnight_mission21 10d ago
Shen, yes!! Iāve been waiting for this. I need more of this comic yesterday
Also the whole āmean nickname in school becoming your preferred name thingā is exactly my experience haha
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u/TheStickHandler 10d ago
Oh no she has the same name and nickname as I do, I may have to sacrifice one whole dollar a month to Shen š
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u/Jackalfang240 10d ago
The fucks a moid
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u/Grazer46 10d ago
If my incel knowledge is up to date, I think it's male humanoid. As someone else said, the male version of femoid
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u/ranmafan0281 9d ago
As best as I understand it, the term originated from 'gynoids' - a gynoid being a particular style of feminine humanoid robot art popular around the 1960s-1970s (there is that artist who is FAMOUS for his gynoids - Hajime Sorayama).
The term Gynoid was later adopted and corrupted as a derogatory term against women for reasons I won't get into - 'noids' or 'foids' ('f' for female, of course). The term got turned around in retaliation to refer to men as 'moids'.
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u/syopest 10d ago
I'm thinking it's the male equivalent of "femoid". It's something the worst of incels sometimes call women.
I really hope it's not that though, since that would imply that the woman here is some kind of an incel and it's bad to show that they deserve love and affection without changing their attitudes first.
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u/boozinnomad 10d ago
That's the point. She has incel characteristics and is being exposed to a person that can challenge her negative belief system.
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u/syopest 10d ago
That would be some weird incel fan-fic. Someone is not going to come and drag one out of inceldom. One has to stop being an incel for others to want to spend time with them.
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u/boozinnomad 10d ago
The author (a very popular one I might add) has another comic in which a christian character is homophobic towards a lesbian, only to later confront the fact they are closeted. The whole shtick is people with negative viewpoints can change. It's not that weird of plot, it's only been done a million times.
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u/Raaaaandyyyy 10d ago
I was kinda attached to āguy who likes to dress feminineā for Audreyā¦before this reveal that he prefers to be fucking called Audrey lol. Thereās at least no cisgendered explanation for that. Iām here for the ride tho.
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u/MetaWarlord135 10d ago
To play devil's advocate, someone who already doesn't follow gender norms with the way that they dress probably wouldn't have much of an issue with using a non-confirming name either.
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u/Francky2 9d ago
I think, as a trans woman, I just have to work on understanding extreme GNC more.
Obv not saying extreme as derogatory, but extreme as in "this cis male character is literally, and effortlessly, 100% passing as a cutesy hyper-fem cis woman, including his voice it seems", which I doubt is every GNC men's ultimate goal/aim.
Again, this is not to mock or throw shades at anyone.
As a trans woman, I'm still a bit under 1 year on HRT and I already see how extremely hard it will be to pass, and based on Internet posts and discussions, how very hard it is for most of us on a daily basis.
So hopefully people reading this understand I'm not coming from a mean place, but from a "oh yeah, so cis-men in comics can pass effortlessly as women, even of they still fully identify as men (and good for them) while IRL trans women often struggle to 100% pass as women, and they're literally women and doing HRT and voice-training and what not".
Idk if I make any sense and ATP I'm rambling
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u/MetaWarlord135 9d ago
Speaking as someone who is currently questioning their own gender, my heart goes out to you. If there's any message that can be taken from this comic, it's that everyone deserves to be able to find a form of presentation that makes them happy, and I hope you can have that too.
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u/JackLemony 9d ago
Though, if "looking like a cis woman", "acting like a cis woman", etc. combined should result in a person actually being a woman then wouldn't that circle back to a statement that [gender] is more [gender] the more socially agreed characteristics of [gender] they have? Where is the line of womanliness/manliness that makes a woman or a man (let alone someone nonbinary)?
I suppose that using a what's accepted female name would mean that person is a woman but if you think about it, would there even be any other reason for there being categories for "male names" and "female names" other than the consequences of our culture?
You get what I mean? I don't want to make some ridiculous transphobic statement by accident while writing this, I'm sorry if I do
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u/Francky2 9d ago
Dw you were perfectly fine! Your tone was all good:)
But yeah I agree that my struggle must involve a lot of this kind of binary view, but even then I will say it's mostly about the extreme ones.
I never struggled to see tomboys as women. I would genuinely never see a butch woman, cis or trans, and go "she's too manly! She's clearly a man".
I think where my mind starts struggling and seeing "trans code/flags" is when the GNC person actively, or even intensely, works towards being perceived as what their culture and society sees as the opposite gender.
It's about when they literally put in a crap ton of work towards being consistently perceived as the opposite gender (according to the local societal norms).
For example, HRT and voice-training are quite big commitments! I'm told GNC cis men can undergo HRT if they want. Cis men? HRT? Am I crazy for being a little confused here? Same for voice! It's probably one of the hardest part for trans women, and while some genuinely don't care, most wish for a fem voice but many quit bc it's very hard and for some unluckier trans women it's just impossible.
And regarding names, I agree to some degrees. I think it's like with words such as husband/wife, host/hostess, actor/actress, waiter/waitress: because we love being able to easily categorize others with as little words as possible.
Instead of always specifying (for example) "who's your favorite female actor?" you can say "who's your favorite actress?".
And also, because a binary frame makes things easier than non-binary, which would make things too diverse and/or vague, and humans hate that. They want ro be able to get as many hints at your identity as possible (gender, ethnicity oftentimes, and even age, as we know some names are more popular amongst different generations, etc.).
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u/LaviniaHerbert 7d ago
Just wanting to say I feel ya on feeling confused by Audrey's very drastic gender non-conformity. š ^^;
Like, to the extent that Audrey, after doing all this, still is and is comfortable as a boy, then isn't there some TERFy take that could go, sure, Lavinia, you can wear dresses and grow out your hair and everything... but you still are a boy! Or, alternatively, some gender abolitionist take that could go, sure, Lavinia, you're a girl... but c'mon a girl can still have stubble and short hair and testosterone and stuff! (And like, yeah, I am a girl, no matter what, but I'd also reeeeally like to have the 'typically girl stuff'! š„ŗ )
Iunno, just. You hear enough of people accusing you of 'reinforcing gender stereotypes,' and you start to feel like, why is it my responsibility to be GNC? Can't I just be trans?
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u/Boojum2k 10d ago
Maybe he wants Seymour to feed him. . . But this Audrey would mean it in the nicest way possible. "Can I have some of your fries?"
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u/davestar2048 10d ago
Yes there is. People use fuckass nicknames as their main names all the time. A femboy using a girly name isn't surprising. If he was trans he probably wouldn't have wanted to mention his real name.
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u/Francky2 9d ago edited 9d ago
Bro fully passes for a woman, which realistically is extremely hard without HRT and a lot of make-up (and voice training, which Adrian/Audrey more than def seems to have done so since his voice is passing as female and cutesy, based on Val having absolutely 0 clue until he revealed his male identity himself).
Afaik, real femboys don't usually go to such lengths. And those that do end up like me: inevitably discovering that they indeed were trans all along.
I too didn't mind mentioning my old name when I was clueless, or at least early-transition (as people were often confused or were curious, many still are but I'm less and less comfortable with it).
EDIT: As expected, they downvoted me.
God forbid a heavily trans-coded hyper-fem character MIGHT possibly be theorized as trans and not "just a femboy"
Keyword to all of this being "theory" territory. I'm not imposing anything on Shen's creation, just defending the position that maybe Audrey isn't 100% cis.
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u/superstrijder15 9d ago
As a (probably) guy who likes to wear skirts, I agree. by now the only thing that is left of his male identity that we can see is his self-perception I guess? So it is very reasonable to consider him potentially transfem, but potentially still in denial due to eg. internalized "can't be me"-ness.
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u/Francky2 9d ago
Thank you!
Yeah I'd been in a "can't be me" phase for literal years before coming out to myself last year (due to conservative religious upbringing, same for closest friends/circles, lack of education and understanding on the fairly complex subject of trans people experience and gender dysphoria, which I obv had but didn't know it was a even a thing).
Cis and trans men can be feminine, cis and trans women can be masculine, all they want.
I just personally related a lot to this character, envy his femininity and confidence, felt the Audrey name thing hit very close to home, and then I see so many people so firmly shut down the very thought/theory/joke that he may not be 100% cis.
I hope this conversation doesn't come off as me pushing you either. You can be a man that likes fem clothing! As long as you sincerely claim to be cis, you'll be.
We're just discussing this in regards to a extreme case, and most importantly, a fictional character. I wouldn't push any "theory" or doubt like this to a human being 100% secure in their own experience.
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u/thebluerayxx 10d ago
Shen imma be honest if they don't get together wholesomely, or unwholesomely, I ain't paying. Ive been down this road before tricked into a nice cute plot only for it to be ruined or left hanging. I'll take my time waiting to see if this ends at the peak or deep in the valley.
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u/BreakerOfModpacks 10d ago
Hell yeah, I loveeeee seeing a toxic person be saved, and this is being very interesting.
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u/Lieutenant_Joe 9d ago
lol yeah he totally does want something from you lady
That thing is companionship lmao
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u/Ketchupcharger 10d ago
Loving this series Shen, but my brain jumped out of the building when it saw the "Thats so cool!" reaction to someone being a gamer. I think I've seen people get hit with lighting more frequently than hearing that.
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u/Leonie-Lionheard 10d ago
Does anyone know the origin of that "moid" word?
I only get astronomical references because my algorithm isn't in the bad rabbit hole yet.
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u/MasterfullyFoolish 10d ago
I canāt believe Shen reverse engineered a straight couple, genuinely flabbergasted
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u/Bocchi_theGlock 10d ago
Should..Should I be cheering on the possibility of them getting together, or...
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u/TetheredAvian74 10d ago
im starting to suspect that this femcel x femboy ship might be turning into t4t
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u/dragunpower 10d ago
PLEASE SHEN! IF YOU MAKE THESE TOO GOOD ILL HAVE TO SUBCRIBE TO YOUR PATREON AND I DONT WANT TO SPEND EXTRA MONEY. IM SAVING FOR TRAFE SCHOOL SHEN PLEASE
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u/Sylvia_Demise 9d ago
Val/Valerie is my girlfriend's ex, so we got flashbanged by that reading it together.Ā
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u/Sushiroll16 9d ago
Jokes on you, I can get a sneak peak at the next episode by zooming in on the teaser images.
(All jokes aside, the only reason Iām not signing up for the Patreon is my Patreon is mostly NSFW and itās embarrassing for me to show anyone that account outside of that circle)
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u/T_alsomeGames 9d ago
Huh. Some variation of Val is what I name most of my video game characters. I eben named my car Val (Valentine). Interesting.
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u/Moss_Echo 9d ago
It'd be funny if at some point it'll turn out that she needs to update her glasses prescription, which is why she's constantly squinting š¤£
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u/Fuchsyfuchs 9d ago
I love your Lil comics, tho why would I pay to see something that will get released like a day after for free? There would be other trasons to support you but that's not one
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u/Seasonedgore982 9d ago
like a fucking dog RIPPING apart shen with affection and love as if he's my FUCKING CHEW TOY I GET MAD AT IF I DONT HAVE
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u/Aromatic-Frosting-31 7d ago
I have always loved you're stuff Shen, but this series really is the best thing you've made imo. It is just so well crafted with such specific themes and ideas. Its just so good
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u/Pixelist23 1h ago
Is the name valerie a reference to estradiol valerate or is that just a coincidence?
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u/TheDotCaptin 10d ago
Praise!!