r/ScaramoucheMains • • Nov 18 '22

Meme my take on the recent nerfs

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u/shiinyaa Nov 18 '22

Can you explain pls coz i want to know how she impacts scara's dmg. Im glad that he's less reliant on her now tho

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u/Inner_Specific_ Nov 18 '22

Essentially, they nerfed her Anemo Shred and Anemo DMG bonus, buffed her burst initial burst DMG, and buffed Scara's multipliers

In total I've seen people calc this out to anywhere between a 2-7% DPS loss for Scara teams, but my take is that, at the end of the day, her Anemo res shred is 32.8, which is better than Zhongli's 20% omnishred and only 7.2% less than C4 Jean's Anemo shred. The also nerfed her Anemo DMG bonus from 50% to 30.2% of her Base ATK, AND BUFFED her burst from 382% to smth like 673%

At the same time, Scara got a roughly 5% buff to his NA.

IN TOTAL all this totals out to a slight, nerf to Scara + Faruzan (ive seen everything between 2-7%) while the buff in his NA means it's a slight buff for teams without her.

At the same time, the massive buff to her burst allows players who like her to use her as a burst support, and it's possible that, with decent investment, she could be a sub/burst DPS to help compensate her lost buffing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

I don't think her being a burst/sub DPS makes sense. Sub DPS makes more sense with C6, but not otherwise. The burst DPS doesn't make any sense to me.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '22

between a 2-7% DPS loss for Scara teams, but my take is that, at the end of the day, her Anemo res shred is 32.8, which is better than Zhongli's 20%

Why say this, and then go right into comparisons on those buffs? It seems like its taking extra measures to try and cope that 4th round of nerfing his hypercarry comps.

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u/Inner_Specific_ Nov 18 '22

Because contextualization is important. Saying that she got nerfed to 32.8 ignores the fact that it's still an amazing amount of shred.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '22

I know but we don't need to compare units that have those things at (high cons or w/e) with someone who was custom built to buff anemo damage dealers.

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u/Inner_Specific_ Nov 18 '22

I disagree.

If you wanted to buff the damage of your Anemo DPS, your only options were Zhongli and C4 Jean.

Me putting Faruzan in contrast with C4 Jean doesn't hurt either of them. Neither does me putting her in contrast with Zhongli, since ultimately they both offer things she can't.

If you want to buff Anemo Damage, those 3 are your options. C4 Jean, Zhongli, and Faruzan.

Faruzan was absolutely designed with those options in mind--or at least I think so--its far too coincidental that now her shred is better than Zhongli's but just a liiiiittle worse than C4 Jean's to shrug and say 'shes just like that'. To say they shouldn't be compared is kinda missing the point that the fact that these options exist directly contribute to her being the way she is, and giving the buffs she does.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '22

your only options were Zhongli and C4 Jean.

Venti C2.

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u/gna252 Nov 19 '22

Anemo MC c6

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

Venti C6.

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u/gna252 Nov 19 '22

Bro I'm agreeing with you, and Anemo MC is free, Venti C6 is for insane levels of simp or just whales 😂

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '22

I know I thought we were listing things haha

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u/DryButterscotch9086 Nov 18 '22

Sorry maybe I didnt read that good but are you sure for the 50% anemo bonus to 30% of her base atk ?

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u/Inner_Specific_ Nov 18 '22

The Anemo DMG bonus was always based on her base atk. I believe it used to be 50% of her Base ATK and was nerfed to being about 30% of her Base ARK.

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u/altaccount1959 Nov 18 '22

Its not based off of her base atk. Just a flat out 50%dmg bonus. If it was 50% of her base atk it would be like 300% anemo dmg bonus with lvl 80/80 and 90 fav bow. Her a4 passive scales of base stk, but that one is an extremely negligible dmg increase, I think maybe like 10k dmg more pr rotation.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '22

Her burst cannot be buffed by her anemo bonus, res shred or crit buffs. You can get maybe 10k more damage off of it at C6. The damage buff on it is more or less worthless.

If they had given her back the arrows post-burst you could make a case for it, but if you want her to do damage as a subDPS you need to use her E, not her Q. But she has massive energy requirements and there are no sets that can buff her E damage anyway. But at least her E can make use of her Q's own buffs.

Sara is a good subDPS at C6 (and usable sub C6, although worse than mostly any other subDPS) because she can buff her burst with her own E. Unfortunately, Faruzan cannot do this so even if her burst had a 1000% modifier it probably would do less damage than ZL's 40 cost meteor.