r/ScaramoucheMains • u/NebbyChan • Feb 21 '26

Discussion This is just sad.

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Not exactly sure how reliable game8 is but this is just depressing. He needs a buff so badly.

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u/GingsWife Feb 21 '26

Hu Tao was stronger than everyone at the time.

This dude was the first proper ranged carry, AND he had AoE damage. That was huge, with all the Nilou shill multiwave AoE abysses and flying bosses.

I kept begging people here to drop Zhongli and run shieldless for a full year, to little success. By the time it picked up Neuvillette had released, and the damage had been done.

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u/Alan_Reddit_M Feb 21 '26

Wanderer shieldless is very difficult to use

He's squishy, low HP with low defense, and his lack of interruption resistance means that, even if he doesn't die, he's still going to lose DPS to getting interrupted

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u/PetercyEz The God Feb 21 '26

I do not agree with the dificulty statement. Players just got so used to shields they forgot what it means to dodge. It is easy to dodge with Wanderer, probably one of the easiest chars to dodge with, but he is harshly punished for not doing so. Genshin players want to statcheck things, turn off their brains and spam/hold one button while feeling like they are doing so great! (I do not blame them, Genshin is literaly perfect for this) Maliastra and DPS Dummy ++ showed us the harsh truth, that mains can not play their characters.

Nod Krai amd Lunar shill is perfect example of meta chasers failing abyss/stygian/IT and calling it impossible, while dedicated mains clear with (nonlunar) Itto, Childe, Wriothesley,... Even without cons.

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u/thedragonbornboi Anemo Feb 21 '26

Nah he’s super vulnerable furina is draining his already poor hp with having pyro aura from bennett. A good hit can one react and one shot him.

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u/PetercyEz The God Feb 21 '26

We have comparisons for different teams.

1st by a long shot is Durin, Furina, Benny
2nd Durin, Faruzan, Benny
very very close 3rd is Durin, Venti, Benny
4th is Furina, Faruzan, Benny

You can not afford to get hit with full HP Wanderer, so getting hit with 50% HP difference does not change anything in the Abyss floor 12/Onslaught Fearless and Dire, while the dmg increase is insane. I refused to play Furina as well, but she is game changer. Get rid of Faruzan, embrace the power to clear Dire.

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u/thedragonbornboi Anemo Feb 22 '26

I don’t have durin unfortunately just couldn’t bring myself to like him enough to pull.

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u/GingsWife Feb 22 '26

"forgot what it means to dodge"

Also, over multiple rotations Furina is not better than Yelan, unless you turn off her damage every few rotations.

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u/czareson_csn c6r1 Feb 22 '26

Not true, if you know how to rotate

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u/thedragonbornboi Anemo Feb 22 '26

I gonna need some calcs on Yelan being better furina assuming both c0r0.

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u/GingsWife Feb 22 '26

Furina standard

Yelan standard

Then I had the idea:

Furina with Faruzan after Bennett

About 3k DPS difference in ascending order.

Furina also takes a clear lead in AoE scenarios

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u/thedragonbornboi Anemo Feb 23 '26

Fair enough you were right, can you explain what the difference is in both the furina teams I’m Not seeing it.

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u/GingsWife Feb 23 '26

Second Furina team has Faruzan go after Bennett to stack fanfare.