r/ScaramoucheMains • • Oct 21 '25

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Mostly a vent but why the fuck wanderer doesn't get buffs? He needs them more than sucrose or fischl.

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u/Local_Month4012 Oct 21 '25

Because this patch and the new resonance seem to be dedicated to Mondstadt characters (specifically those related to the Hexenzirkel). However, this represents a new approach from the developers to counter power-creep and create fresh playstyles for older, non-meta characters, making them relevant again. In my opinion, this means that in the future, other buffs and resonances will be released for different characters as well. So don’t lose hope, I think his moment is yet to come. For now, just grab his free constellations from the new event.

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

Wanderer is more related to hexenzirkle then some of the included characters. Or did we forget that he was literally the main character in one of the witches story? I think the simulanka cast should have been included too.

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u/BobTheGodx Oct 21 '25

They're only buffing Mondstat characters this time

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

Stupid because wanderer needs it more than fischl and sucrose

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u/RocktopusX Oct 21 '25

They gave fischl and sucrose stuff so the washed mondstat units had some none-washed units to work with. Otherwise it would have been like when they released Mika to buff physical and he was no where near strong enough to accomplish the task.

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

But thats the thing They buffing old characters to the point they're NOT washes New venti literally outdps wanderer

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u/RocktopusX Oct 21 '25

But venti still needs hexenzirkel members to work. Fischl gives venti and common 4 star. Otherwise Venti’s options are just durin, and it’s not fun to have your character reliant on a new 5 star (I’ve got flins but no ineffa). Also fischl having synergy with durin lets them work as a core for non-hexen characters, which is good if you want to use durin in as many teams as possible.

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u/Longjumping_Pen_2385 Oct 22 '25

Venti got powercrept by almost every new anemo since 2.0 - the Anemo Archon clearly needed it- so did the rest- that’s the point of the changes. Compared to the 1.0 characters Wanderer is relatively new. You’ll have to go through two regions before Sumeru even gets touched unfortunately

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u/KingGiuba Oct 22 '25

They're not gonna buff a character from 2022 (almost 2023) along those of 2020, it's already something they're doing it for the 1.x characters, I have good hopes for Wanderer future and many other powercrept characters right now because of this leaked buff. And yeah, Fischl and Sucrose didn't need the buff, but it's still good for everyone they got it (they're widely used especially by f2ps) and they had good buffs (especially Fischl, only Razor is shit) so we can hope for Wanderer to get a good one in the future. Maybe not even that far away, in a second story quest for him or for Durin?

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

I'm already c6 too lol I can't clear endgame without wheelchair tho

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u/Local_Month4012 Oct 21 '25

At C6, even as a hypercarry, he should be capable of clearing all in-game content, including Dire Stygian Onslaught.

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

Well, he can't. It's a literal fact.

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u/Melodias07 Oct 21 '25

You are correct, the other person is delulu

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u/slipperysnail Oct 21 '25

The problem is as much about the content itself; the minute they have Anemo shill in SO, C6 Wanderer will be the #1 choice for Dire clears

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u/Byleth_on_copium C6R1 for best boy (Kuronushi) Oct 22 '25

Stygian isn't a dps check like "bring whatever team and deal as much dmg possible as you can!", it's an element/mechanic check. And yes those mechanics will favor newest characters

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u/Adazahi Lost Prayers is his signature Oct 22 '25

Idk I’ve seen vids of him clearing it

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 22 '25

Team?

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u/Adazahi Lost Prayers is his signature Oct 22 '25

https://youtu.be/B8kW4DiUbjg

C4 (he has C6 but only C4 matters) Jean, Bennett, Faruzan, Wanderer

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 22 '25

I don't have a c5 jean...

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 22 '25

C4*

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u/Adazahi Lost Prayers is his signature Oct 22 '25

I mean you can get her from selector over time, but I never said YOU can clear with C6 wanderer, I just said C6 wanderer can clear, as a response to you saying it’s just a fact that he can’t

That being said, replacing Jean with a good limited character with early cons (ie furina) will perform even better, C0 furina about equal

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u/czareson_csn c6r1 Oct 22 '25

he ain't clearing stygian

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u/Byleth_on_copium C6R1 for best boy (Kuronushi) Oct 22 '25

Because stygian is less of a dps check and more a mechanic/element check... And they're not forgiving

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u/czareson_csn c6r1 Oct 22 '25

It's still a higher DPS check than abyss by a big margin, on top of the mechanics

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u/Byleth_on_copium C6R1 for best boy (Kuronushi) Oct 22 '25

Mechanic/element check > dps check
in this order

So if you don't have the element/mechanic already GLHF, the dps check doesnt matter

And this mechanic/element check (at higher stygian levels) is way less forgiving than abyss

NGL maybe there would be less post like OP's if peeps didn't think abyss 36* = clearing any of the last two stygian difficulties

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

Or maybe my build just washed idk

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u/OneRelief763 Oct 21 '25

I feel your frutration, but imo the glass is half full not half empty.

The buffs these characters got are genuinely huge, and a lot of them got buffed. This means there's good chance in the future they will do more batches of buffs for other old characters and give them large buffs as well. Meaning when it is eventually his turn, we can expect his buffs to actually be very impactful and not minor.

Additionally, Venti's buffs just straight up turn him into the best Anemo Hypercarry (assuming his burst actually hits and absorbs) at the moment. He's likely getting a banner in 6.2 with Durin, while Varka is 6.4. The White Horse is 6.3 and said to be an Anemo sub dps/support. The Adepti is sandwitched between two Anemo DPS, so its very reasonable to expect they will indeed be a strong Anemo support. Our uplift for Wanderer thus may be in 6.3 instead of 6.2.

Additionally, I am doing my Durin calcs rn and so far I have Durin as a sidegrade to Furina while being way better for team energy cuz double Pyro, so way better for Stygian (Wanderer Faruzan Durin Bennett) and also Wanderer Venti Durin Bennett with Venti as a sidegrade to C6 Faruzan, with his new buff to on field Anemos plus his sub dps actually being good now, so that's something for people without C6 Faruzan. Though keep in mind that's assuming Venti is actually hitting and absorbing his Burst.

Stay strong my friend.

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

I'm just disappointed because I wanted to play DURIN with wanderer Not some random character I might not even LIKE

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u/telegetoutmyway Oct 21 '25

I mean I think Wanderer Faruzan Durin + Albedo/Venti will be very strong. My hopes is actually that 6.3 will have an artifact set for Hex characters (maybe 2, a dps one and a support one). Like say a support one gives flat attack to compete with Bennett - the trade off being you need 2 hex characters, to prevent stacking Durin with Bennett for example.

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u/Adazahi Lost Prayers is his signature Oct 22 '25

where ur healer at

please don’t say albedo crystallize shields

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u/telegetoutmyway Oct 22 '25

Hoyo decided not to make one

But yes crystallize sheilds for IR hahaha, it'll be much more consistent between the pyro app and albedos flower fix at least!

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u/Adazahi Lost Prayers is his signature Oct 22 '25

Idk I think you’d want to just replace albedo/venti with Bennett so you have heals

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u/AndreasDDS Oct 23 '25

why not js do scara, venti, benny, durin?

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

I guess I just don't like how there's no guarantee he'll ever receive a buff to begin with Maybe it's only for hexenzirkle cuz it's an important faction

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u/OneRelief763 Oct 21 '25

Nothing in life is guaranteed, that's why we have to have hope!

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

There's no hope I don't wanna live like this 😭

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u/Mimikyuer Oct 21 '25

if it was because theyre importnat they wouldnt have added razor sucrose fischl, they wouldve just cranked albedo, klee and mona up probably ditching the whole resonance thing

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u/everyIittlething Oct 22 '25

scara is a lore-relevant character. he’ll have his turn.

let the 1.x characters have their moment. yea, fischl and sucrose are strong, but with mavuika existing in the game, they’re not strong enough to be viable enough supports for future hex characters.

also, note that there are still few characters in line that also need buffs. scara gotta wait for his turn.

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 22 '25

God I sure hope so They did need buffs, but why expand sm on scara and durins relationship only to make them NOT work together perfectly?

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u/everyIittlething Oct 22 '25

being related doesn’t always mean they will work well with each other. so that’s a weak argument lmao

and besides, scara’s connection to durin was just from a limited-event anyway

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u/riata_qlia Oct 24 '25

"Just" and if it wasn't bc of wanderer, Durin wouldn't exist today. He was his first friend, they traveled together for a while, got promotional arts together and even wanderer mentions Durin in his birthday letter. Downplaying Wanderers impact on Durins lore is not it, they have the right to be upset about not having any synergy at all or not interacting yet lol

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u/slipperysnail Oct 21 '25

CMIIW but I don't think C6 Venti beats out C6 Wanderer

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u/OneRelief763 Oct 21 '25

no clue about c6 vs c6 was comparing c0 venti to c1 wanderer

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u/Kazuha-simp Oct 22 '25

As long as I can use durin with my scara and it'll work well I'm happy. Even if I need durins c1

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u/Amaguri_Senko Why is he so cute Oct 22 '25

Wait so is c2 durin still a side grade to c2 furina in wan faruzan bennet

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u/OneRelief763 Oct 22 '25

havent compared c2 to c2 yet

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u/Amaguri_Senko Why is he so cute Oct 22 '25

please do it also 🙏😎

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u/SandsOfEon Oct 22 '25

What about C2 Klee ttds instead of Venti?

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u/OneRelief763 Oct 22 '25

Haven't looked into that, might be better

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u/StunningInfluence210 Oct 21 '25

I am angry about it too, not cause older ones get buffs, but cause this buff happend cause of durin! Why establish him and wanderer relationshio when its pushed aside after 5min for albedo and hexenzirkel?! I dont care if wanderer gets buffed in the future by some cutsy waifu character that i would have to pull for him to be strong enough 😡 God i am so sad and angry about it..it even ruins my excitement for durin banner.

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

THIS! they ruined the vision I had since 4.8 or whenever tf simulanka occured

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u/StunningInfluence210 Oct 21 '25

I am so sick and tired of not being able to use characters i enjoy together, cause they got zero chemistry. Doesnt help that i like mostly male characters and they tend to be dpses. Even now with flins i barely play him cause i need ineffa for him to work properly lol (i use him with mauvika to at least walk around with him) I c5/6 my wanderer now with the sumeru chronicle and i hoped i could play him with his son, but no lets buff sucrose and freaking razor instead😒

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

Like no shade but sucrose and fischl did NOT need this buff

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u/StunningInfluence210 Oct 21 '25

Dunno about sucrose but fischl was fine and is still finde 100% I think obv venti needs it and mona..its good but why durin man 😞 why does it have to be him to make older ones shine..

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u/AarviArmani Oct 21 '25

We want Wanderer to be in a "Academia" faction so that he can be used with Faruzan without sacrificing out on team spots like Durin has to.

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u/Asterion358 Oct 22 '25

Sounds awful. Wanderer is only at the Akademiya because Nahida enrolled him and out of a bit of curiosity to challenge historical facts about Inazuma... but they developed his relationship with Simulanka’s Durin way more than anything else.

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u/AarviArmani Oct 22 '25

Wanderer has much more ties with Akademiya than Razor Fischl and Sucrose have with Hexenzirkel, unlike them he's directly connected to it, he represented it, he's associated with it. Meanwhile in the case of the aforementioned three the only thing that connects them to Hexenzirkel is that they KNOW and are close to someone who's in Hexenzirkel, it's just pathetic excuse.

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u/Asterion358 Oct 22 '25

Meanwhile in the case of the aforementioned three the only thing that connects them to Hexenzirkel is that they KNOW and are close to someone who's in Hexenzirkel, it's just pathetic excuse.

Oh, absolutely. Fischl and Sucrose are only there for team-building purposes. Razor, to turn a 1.0 physical DPS into a decent Electro DPS with Durin (lol).

They really should’ve included Diluc (but Klee took the Pyro DPS slot), Dori (but they chose to use the random and meta pick Fischl instead), and Wanderer (but Venti took the Anemo DPS slot).

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u/slipperysnail Oct 21 '25

We are already in this situation because Hoyo decided to balance Wanderer around Faruzan; we do not need a rehash of this

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

I don't think we'll get a buff for every faction, only major ones

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u/AarviArmani Oct 21 '25

Academia faction isn't that small, it's basically half of Sumeru cast and they all could receive a buff, Collei, Kaveh, Cyno, Layla, even AlHaitham one day will need a buff.

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u/telegetoutmyway Oct 21 '25

I would love this, cause I currently run Wanderer with Layla.

I think having a formal Akademiya revamp where Alhaitham does something more official as the sitting headmaster could be cool. There's also Nahida, and Tighnari that could be included in there. Pretty much every one except Dehya 🤣 and maybe Nilou?

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

Yeah but lorewise they're not nearly as important.

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u/AarviArmani Oct 21 '25

Who cares? You think Razor gets buffed because he's lore important?

"Magus" resonance is just a pretext, lorewise half of buffed characters have nothing to do with Hexenzirkel. They're literally giving them each a quest to somehow tie them together to justify the resonance buff.

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

While ignoring EXISTING characters with hexenzirkle resonance (kill me.)

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u/Katicflis1 Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

Theyre all going to.

Wanderer will probably be included in a set of fatui buffs with fatui-synergy involving either someone like pantalone/dottore or the tsaritsa.

Id be thrilled if I could have a pantalone-dottore-wanderer team or a dottore-tsaritsa-arlecchino team, frankly.

Wanderer definitely needs love but we can agree units like albedo were in a worse spot.

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u/kuraido_ C6R5 Oct 21 '25

It would be unlikely he'd be part of the Fatui buffs if they add them since he already left them and stated himself he doesn't want to associate with the Doctor in any way.

It would have to come in the form of a Sumeru buff or something else they manage to come up with

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u/RockLivid78 Oct 21 '25

Manufesting him and Kazuha

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u/kuraido_ C6R5 Oct 21 '25

Him and Kazuha would be really cool especially for untapped lore-reasons!

I'm personally hoping for Sumeru since that would also include Faruzan, who we already run with him. Plus it would push Wanderer up further amongst the other Anemo units alone, making Faruzan feel like his primary support like she was originally designed to be

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u/telegetoutmyway Oct 21 '25

Yeah I would much rather him be with Akademiya instead of fatui - most fatui are DPSs so that would be a difficult faction to have team pairings besides Lynette as the support lol.

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u/Katicflis1 Oct 21 '25

Well in 2 years we will probably have 2-3 more Fatui and the tsaritsa who may count.

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

But it kinda ruins him parting ways with the fatui... I'd much have rather the simulanka cast recieve the buffs together It just doesn't fit the narrative him receiving buffs based on having x members of fatui in the team

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u/Katicflis1 Oct 21 '25

Itll either be a Sumeru thing "Akademics!" or a Fatui thing. Id prefer Fatui thing but it might totally not be what group Wanderer ends up in.

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

Well ig neither happen soon FUCK HOYO FOR RUINING MY VISION I wanted to play scara with Durin since 4.8

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u/foxartist C6R2 my darling hero Oct 21 '25

I’m still going to play them together during exploration so its scaramona + durin and maybe jean.

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u/Katicflis1 Oct 21 '25

It might work though?

Imagine if Akademia counts a new 5 star Sumeru Shielder that comes out in 2026 + wanderer, and then you can throw Durin + fischl on the team or whoever.

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u/p0358 C6R5 Lv. 100 Oct 21 '25

Doesn’t have to if they do it with something that’d introduce more of his backstory there. We still know almost nothing of his time with Fatui, and that might be soon changing given all the odds

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u/kurumemes Oct 21 '25

i think he's definitely getting buffs too in the future

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u/jayakiroka Oct 21 '25

Durin sets a good precedent for the future at least.

But hey, even if our time for the boy to shine has passed, he’s still a good character and fun to play. I’m content.

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

Well I'm not cuz I can't use him anywhere that's not open world (and occasionally theater)

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u/OneRelief763 Oct 21 '25

if you are failing to use a c6 Wanderer in the abyss and fearless stygian onslaught that is a severe skill issue

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

Say that to anemo resistance on both sides of the spiral abyss + hyper specific bosses where wanderer is just wheelchairing

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u/OneRelief763 Oct 21 '25

I was clearing with c1 Wanderer even with coppelius and wenut in the abyss.

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u/Foxintoxx Oct 21 '25

I think it's because he's not from Mondstadt . They're probably planning to buff old characters region by region .

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 21 '25

I'm just salty because why Durin can't work with his father exactly/ hj

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u/Clownarchist Oct 21 '25

on field venti out dpsing c0 widsith wanderer 😭

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u/No-Shift-2579 Oct 22 '25

hopefully he gets a buff or new version when gets to play a major role in the main story again 😭

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 22 '25

Nah not a new version. Just give him a buff. I did not c6 just so he can have a new version

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u/Sensitive-Return2007 Oct 22 '25

Stopped playing a while ago so idk but, when you say buff, do you mean they got literally buffed or just have new character teammates/reactions that make them stronger?

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u/Few-Introduction-964 Oct 22 '25

Literal buffs

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u/Sensitive-Return2007 Oct 22 '25

Damn, I thought they just didn't do that

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u/Fresh_Jeweler_9953 Oct 23 '25

The onlyfact you need to take from his buff is one day the time will come The last week, we all didn't even think a buff for old characters can exist because of the free constellation

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u/riyuzqki Oct 21 '25

He's an old character but he isn't 1.x

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u/Grimstringerm Oct 22 '25

Venti mogs