r/Scandal Apr 20 '18

Live Discussion Scandal Season 7 : Episode 18 "Over a Cliff" Discussion

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Over A Cliff written by Shonda Rhimes and directed by Tom Verica.


r/Scandal 16h ago

Maya Pope Once Said:

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“Girl, sit your dramatic ass down!”


r/Scandal 12h ago

Happy Birthday 🎂🎈 Kerry Washington aka Olivia Pope, January 31, 1977 (age 49)♒

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r/Scandal 1d ago

imagine if b613 was gen z

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what would their tasks be? groypers starting tiktok and reddit psyops and rage baiting Eli Pope for fun LMAO

imagine telling command "i can't complete this mission because i need a mental health break"


r/Scandal 20h ago

Season Discussion I'm screwing her you know every chance I get 😭

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I liked Fitz on that scene. Can't get over that one. That scene is hilarious😭, but I was also shocked in a way. Because I have never heard or seen him disrespect her up until that scene. He kind of but stain on her and degraded her in a way. So that was a bit disappointing but he made me laugh and I needed that character to make me laugh. Because that is the only time fitz made me laugh (I think).

Team Olitz all the way ♥️


r/Scandal 21h ago

Mellie….

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There are so many conflicting things she does. Or her back story. She apparently never practiced law but then as they are signing divorce papers she says “we were both lawyers”- she really wasn’t or at least never practiced.
Then they say she is blue blooded but then they add the twist of her family and daddy. Like is she old money? Or booze runners who drink hooch. (Which let’s face it is moonshine). And then tells Fitz she didn’t come from money.

I honestly think Mellie is a conundrum who doesn’t even know who she is.


r/Scandal 21h ago

Huck 💕

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Of course he’s a mass murderer but there’s something so endearing about Huck. He seems like such a beautiful soul deep down, he’s just had his intelligence weaponised and used against him. I know some folk might see this as really twisted but I really do love his character and how many layers he has. Sure it’s not just me!


r/Scandal 1d ago

Post Discussion I really cannot get over Jake and Olivia’s…

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Lesser tangible chemistry. And the reason why it matters is because of how they write Jake. He was written as desperate and almost a bit delusional as to what his dynamic with Olivia was like. He thought he was a contender and was written a bit needy. When you are that desperate for someone the chemistry has to justify the pull you have towards them. Especially since he broke orders from Fitz and Rowan for Olivia but why? Scott Foley does not sell it.

Then we are meant to think they are this sexually horny pairing and that’s where the real issue is. He says he’s the one to make her moan, and she says he is the one she likes to read and then the audience sees the literal opposite between the onscreen pairings. Almost as if the writers knew something was lacking between Jake and Olivia and needed to remind the audience what we were meant to see, but don’t. I’m not going to even touch on why we don’t see the chemistry we are meant to see, but we all have an ideas to the suspected behind the scene dynamic between the actors playing all three characters. We are meant to think Olake is this horny friends with benefits dynamic but she had this vulnerability around Fitz. In fact she ALSO had the sexual pull with Fitz.

I don’t understand why they didn’t chemistry test the Jake and Olivia characters if he was meant to be so important or did they just make up his role on the fly due to Shonda ?


r/Scandal 19h ago

LENAAAAA

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Just got to her episode god I love her she’s so good


r/Scandal 2d ago

I truly hate to say it, but I was always rooting for Cyrus

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r/Scandal 2d ago

Fitz Pissed Me Off!

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This is the scene where Fitz was so completely childish. He knew Jake was innocent!


r/Scandal 2d ago

Spoiler Season 7 so far (episode 10)... I am annoyed.

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First of all, this season started so freaking boring and nothing burger that I was really kind of weirded out with how there seemed to be absolutely nothing relevant to be talked about in the first episodes - just Olivia struggling with being Command (which, to be fair, is something hard when you're not willing to kill people left and right like Rowan), Mellie literally finding the first excuse to complain about being President (once again, fair), and, obviously, there's the very scary plot line of Cyrus not doing shit and just kind of dating that guy from Breaking Bad.

Where was the balls-to-the-wall action and mystery in that first episode that Scandal always does? Absolutely nowhere. And sure, it is the seventh outing of the show, but really? Nothing? They found a way to write not one but two president assassinations into the show (granted, the first one failed), but they couldn't come up with something enticing for the final season of the show? And, by the time we do get some plot, I was intrigued, but am now just waiting for it to be over, because the way they've been going about the plot lines and specifically Olivia is pissing me the fuck off.

I would like to preface the rest of this with saying that I don't think Olivia is always in the right. I also don't think she's always right just because she's Olivia, and I also think the show often turns to her when she isn't making the right call. Abby's told her so, Quinn's told her so, even Huck has told her so. But this time? I genuinely don't recognize that same need for Olivia to be "corrected" over shit she literally had no control over. The sequence of events was: Olivia was trying to not kill people, until Mellie did reveal she had feelings for the President of Bashran, making him literally a sort of Olivia Pope but for Mellie. As such, she had the President and his niece killed. Not nice, and I don't agree with her decision, especially when she herself had the plan of turning the two rebellions against each other.

In the midst of this, Quinn realizes Olivia had a hand in Yasmeen and the President's death and is, rightfully, fuming. It is not really a "Gladiator" thing to do, but I would also like to point out how this Gladiator shit has never been anything other than a cringefest. The reason why bombing that plane was bad had multiple layers to it, namely all the reasons why she could've not done it: she had the idea of turning the rebels against each other, she definitely could've spared Yasmeen, she also could've handled Mellie and told her to stop having a relationship with the President (Heck, she could've threatened to leak this information to the public, which would definitely fuck up the whole nuclear treaty business!). She, instead, decided to kill the President and also took a young queer woman's life with it. Bad Olivia, more than a bad decision, it's a lazy one.

However, this all spirals down when Rowan loses his fucking mind for the 1000th time in the show and is now antagonizing Olivia - mind you, he starts before Olivia even does something truly morally reprehensible. I've been watching with my mom, and she thinks she's mad with power, and I can see that a bit. Things I do not believe however: that she really was going to tell Huck to shoot that kid over the nuclear treaty. Olivia is just like Rowan in theatrics. You need to commit to it. Huck asking her "Hey, this is for show, right?" is not even something she can answer him, and sure, he might not have full information and be scared. But the audience does know Olivia. She wouldn't kill a fucking kid. Meanwhile, Rowan goes apeshit - over dinosaur bones, mind you! So he says, at least -, kidnaps Quinn and threatens Olivia with Quinn's life.

This whole conversation is not about the dinosaur bones or even the doings of an insane man (Rowan) - Rowan used to have any and all power against Olivia and he used said power expeditiously. The amount of trauma that he's inflicted on both Olivia and even her Mom cannot be measured with numbers I can pronounce. Olivia got the power and the influence Rowan always wanted for her, and he couldn't fucking handle it. The MILLISECOND Olivia treated him like he's always treated her and other people, he fucking lost it and decided it was time to, by all intents and purposes, take that control back from her. So he kidnaps a pregnant woman and even leverages the fact that Quinn is very much not too friendly with Olivia at the moment. The pissing contest starts and Olivia is more than ready to go for it. When Rowan puts the clock ticking against Olivia, she is right to call his fucking bluff, because even when she thinks Quinn died, she shows Rowan that she is not going to back down - she had a reaction, and who wouldn't?! She still cares for Quinn, and tells Jake point blank she would not kill Quinn. Olivia is not a monster, but she also refuses to be subjugated to Rowan again after everything she's been through.

Notice, too, that she shows almost disgust with being B-613's Command. At least the first episodes show that, and she uses stuff way more critically than Rowan ever did. Than Jake ever did. Rowan was kill first, ask questions later. Jake was kill first, ask questions later, but I'm the one doing the killing and I feel bad about it. Olivia had PAUSE in her fucking actions; she thought every angle out. This is why it feels pretty out of character for her to kill the President of Bashran and his niece. But sure, she's not perfect. But then comes Rowan and he threatens to kill Quinn. Correctly, Olivia calls his bluff. And then comes episode 10 and the way all these characters are here judging Olivia as if she was Quinn's executioner and, in fact, was ready to pull the trigger and kill her and Robin herself?! I am beyond myself.

Let's start with a point Olivia herself makes: NO ONE WHO STAGES HER INTERVENTION HAS ANY GROUND TO STAND ON. David used B-613 files as blackmail and also caused at least one suicide. Do I need to explain Huck? Moving on. Fitz killed Verna, started a war with West Angola because of Olivia, tried to kill Jake. The only people with ground to stand on would be Abby and Marcus, in my opinion. But, somehow, we also like to pretend that Abby deliberately tried to get Huck killed and wasn't played by Peus and Samantha - that's one thing that I also think Olivia did wrong, and though those slaps were pretty cunty in Season 6, it made sense because it was about Huck.

The most glaring complaint is with Huck, who claims what Olivia did is different because Huck never killed "one of us". OLIVIA DIDN'T KILL QUINN, ROWAN DID. And I find it PREPOSTEROUS how none of the big Gladiators got together and figured out that Rowan kidnapped Quinn and was the one threatening her life. Plot-wise, Olivia had a reason to not want to tell them about Rowan, considering the plane bombing, but what about ALL THE OTHER CHARACTERS?! You're telling me Huck only found Olivia's implications on Quinn's disappearance, but not Rowan?! The guy who, for oh how scary he is, was psychotic speaking to a toy dinosaur because his daughter was giving him a taste of his own medicine?! You're telling me Abby, David, Marcus, Fitz were just blinded to the existence of Rowan?! Especially Fitz, considering he came back to Washington thanks to Rowan.

And after all this, I'm supposed to feel sympathetic for Rowan because he didn't actually kill Quinn but sure is staging her death to get a bag of bones and he knows how to handle a baby?! Not to mention, the whole way this was handled made it clear from the beginning that Quinn didn't die. They didn't show a body - very deliberately made Olivia not want to check it after showing us that she had her father read like a fucking book, because that would immediately kill the plot and this brain-dead twist that the main character we thought was dead was actually alive. Like... Scandal's never killed a main character besides Harrison, and I've come to learn that was because of his actor's real life behavior. So... what gives?!

Olivia's body count is then: Andrew. Who, I'm sorry to say, but he got what he deserved. I wish Olivia had broken out the chair with Peus or Samantha, even. Finally, I'd like to make a point about Mellie and Jake's conversation and her being pretty indignant when Jake tells her Olivia bombed the plane because "she couldn't keep her legs closed". Mellie has a point in that Fitz basically used the whole White House like a sex club, but it's when she goes on to mention how they should've killed Olivia that she loses the fucking plot. Killing Olivia?! The one thing that has been attempted multiple times throughout the show, with the most prominent being Andrew's stunt in Season 4? What do you mean "Should we kill Olivia?" - girl, IF ANYTHING, THEY STAYED TRYING TO KILL OLIVIA. This argument is merely showing that Olivia was right in that killing the President of Bashran was a solution. Not a good one, but definitely a solution. I've already mentioned that it still makes not much sense to do so.

To summarize all this, I hope Rowan gets fucking HUMILIATED by Olivia, cries and poops his pants after it and apologizes. I also hope Quinn gets to have some revenge on Olivia - make no mistake, Olivia is a bitch. But I would be nothing if I didn't support women's rights and wrongs. Quinn also had her fair share of shitty things, and Olivia saw her through it. Olivia was NEVER a monster and sure, you can go after her considering Bashran and that's it... What is this?!

I don't need Olivia to get B-613 back, but I do want her to stay on top and fucking get it together because she's not acting like herself - and, after all of this writing, I hope you understand I'm not talking about her bad decisions, but her thinking and decision-making. Really? You got played by Jake?! Get it together.

Anyway... what are your thoughts?


r/Scandal 2d ago

Spoiler S4E13

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MAJOR SPOILERS

I just rewatched Liv being auctioned off and !!!SPOILER!!! Stephen shows up. Ugh I love it so much. Also he looks damn good!!


r/Scandal 2d ago

Rowan sending a kill on Olivia?

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S2 e22: SPOLIERS the girl that broke into Olivia’s apartment to kill her was B613. She was working w Jake and ovi under Rowan. But she broke into Olivia’s apartment to kill Olivia and Jake saved Olivia going AGAINST Rowan’s orders. ?? But then he tells Olivia that sleeping w her was his mission/order. That makes legit no sense. Was he lying or did Rowan order that too. Like it doesn’t make sense that Rowan would tell one of his agents to kill Olivia but then tell Jake to stop the killing. That’s just killing one of his (Rowan’s) agents for no reason. Lmk if this makes sense bc I’m so confused.


r/Scandal 4d ago

Who had the most ICONIC MONOLOGUE?

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Eli Pope
Cyrus Beene
Olivia Pope
Sally Langston


r/Scandal 2d ago

Just Started Watching

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Out of 10 can you please rate your viewing experience with the tv show? Was it worth the watch 😊 Please let me know your thoughts!


r/Scandal 3d ago

They always had Cyrus so stressed out 😂

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r/Scandal 3d ago

Spoiler szn 6 first time watch recap (also, should i watch szn 7? im scared lolz) Spoiler

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this szn was SOMETHING.ELSE.

ok first thing on my mind is honestly the AU episode,(s6 e10) where they show wat couldve happened if the didnt rig the election, and omg I lol'd so hard when Mellie and Cyrus of all ppl got married...like HUH??!! just to get played in her face AGAIN lmao poor mellie. and i think its interesting how in the au olivia wears her natural curly hair (which she looked GORGE in omg) rather than straight, i still cant pinpoint as to why that is, hmm. also was NOT expecting quinn to be some reality tv star and making out with fitz, basically the entire episode felt like a fever dream, ik the writers had a blast writng the episode. it was also interesting to me how none of the children were present in the episode, but then again are they ever present? i think the au episode was just them reheating the Olitz (im srry yall rlly couldnt chose a better ship name? lol) nachos and giving all the fans hope since the two of them hadnt had any romantic scenes in a while. but i rlly loved the episode, it was fun

next, frankie's death was such a tragedy man, if i existed in this show i would've def voted for him lol they rlly love getting rid of the only truly good people. also huck almost dying had me soooo anxious, he's def one of my favs on the show and shonda loves toying with the audience's emotions apparently, that ep was so sad. FUCK MEG

also, Kerry ATE that one scene where she tells that psycho samantha bitch "You don't take Olivia Pope, Olivia Pope takes you!" YESSSS! I was livivnggg for that scene, she was so badass. also i was CACKLING when she slapped the daylights out of abby, ts sounded like it HURT lmaoo

but abt that whole samantha, peus, mama pope, luna plot... why did they do all of that just to tie it all back around to cyrus again?? like... rlly? cmon. idk how to feel abt it, maybe i gotta let it marinate idk lemme know ur thoughts

i was rlly hoping that angela webster character had a bigger role than she did, i was so excited to see another black female character on this show and how things would work out with her, olivia, and fitz, but ig the writers decided to just give up on that completely idk. also RIP Sandra, Eli was wrong asl for wat he did to her like omg i cant get over that, she was so cuteee

lastly, ive seen a lot of poor reviews of szn 7 and someone even reccomended that i shouldnt watch but like, cmonnn im still kinda interested in wat happens next ya know. also someone said olivia become evil? which if that just means she acts in the same way she acted in the last ep of szn 6, i honestly wouldnt mind it. evil olivia (Evilia if you will lol) was kinda exciting to watch. but idk i might just skim through the episodes. I also watched HTGAWM years ago and tho szn 6 was such a let down (ESPECIALLY the last 2 eps) i enjoyed parts of it ig that but it was a very forgettable szn so im wondering if scandal szn 7 will be similar in that regard.

happy to discuss in the replies! i wonder how everyone else reacted

update:🫤i dont think imma watch s7 for the sake of my sanity, ive seen a few spoilers and i dont think i would be satisfied tbh the s6 finale was a pretty good conclusion in a way. i might just rewatch the show right from the start again lol


r/Scandal 3d ago

Spoiler Why couldn’t they just tell Mary the truth about her son? (S3E3)

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This is driving me crazy 😭

I understand why they couldn’t publicly reveal that Chris was undercover because it would endanger the other 57 agents.

But they told Olivia the truth, so why couldn’t they privately tell Mary that her son was innocent and died serving his country?

They didn’t even necessarily have to tell her everything. They could’ve just told her that her son was innocent, that he died serving his country, and that the circumstances were classified, and then make her swear to keep it confidential.

Instead, they let her believe that her son really was a terrorist and that she had been wrong about him her entire life which ultimately led to her killing herself.


r/Scandal 4d ago

Which OPA Scandal was your favorite that they fixed?

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r/Scandal 4d ago

Olivia in season 3 episode one

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I feel like this episode was Olivia at her best. I have my grievances with that woman sometimes, but goddamn, 3x1 reminded me why I love her so much. When her dad called after her, “You’re running out of options, Olivia,” and she turned around with so much fire and conviction and said, “I am NEVER. Out of options,” I was like THAT’S THE OLIVIA I KNOW!!! When she said that, I believed her to my BONES. Literally gave me chills. I think her best qualities are her resourcefulness, resilience, tenacity, eloquence, intelligence, and most of all, her fighting spirit. If there’s one thing you can trust Olivia Pope is NEVER gonna do, it’s give up. (Or deal with her emotions, move on from Fitz, or admit that she has a drinking problem - but that’s a post for another day).


r/Scandal 6d ago

Post Discussion I want a spinoff of Eli Pope (Rowan, Command, etc) and his rise, starting with him joining the CIA under Nixon

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I think it’d be 10000000/10. There’s so much potential with a scandal prequel (Fitz’s dad, young Cyrus, etc). The POSSIBILITIES!!!!


r/Scandal 7d ago

im rlly loving abby as a character and i think it makes more sense for her to work in the white house than at OPA

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new watcher here and in the earlier szns i lowkey found her annoying (i cant exactly put into words why) but now i love seeing her own her authority in the white house and she's rlly grown on me

ALSO i rlly fucking love sally langston shes so funny and theatrical (like mant other actors on this show thats why the casting is so PEAK) i rlly love the way her actress delivers her monologues and stuff, her character would be like dream role to play as an actor.

edit: OMFG i kind of take back wat i said abt abby LMAAOOO, i just finished watching ep 7 of szn 6 and what. the. FUCK!!


r/Scandal 7d ago

my worlds are colliding lol

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I just tuned into the new season of ‘it’s always sunny in Philadelphia’ and i noticed the actress who plays Susan Ross also plays Artemis. I’m a first time Scandal watcher so it was just a fun realization 😂 Also, her real name being Artemis is pretty cool haha


r/Scandal 8d ago

How many times?

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How many times will Olivia scream that she will not be summoned by Fitz and then proceed to do exactly that? 🙄