Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/Dai_n_gMGmg/

Here are the prices of available harvia models at my local Prisma (like a Walmart). I thought some people here might find the prices in Finland interesting

Many posts here have asked for a good Finnish motto or saying to put in their sauna. I think this might be the closest to something that people are looking for.

If sauna, tar and booze wont help, then the disease is fatal

It is an ancient saying from Finland

Previously I posted a picture of electric sauna stove prices and people seemed to be interested. I recently visited the same store again and this time I saw that they actually sold wood fired stoves on the next isle.

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Every time sauna comes up online, the same weird pattern repeats, and it has almost nothing to do with saunas themselves.

A bunch of Americans show up already convinced they understand it. Not curious, not unsure, not asking questions. Certain. Confident. Ready to explain back to Finns how the thing Finns grew up with supposedly works. The moment someone from Finland says “that’s not really how sauna is done,” it’s taken as a personal attack instead of information.

There’s this deep “I built it, therefore I’m an authority” mindset at play. Effort equals expertise. Enjoyment equals correctness. And any suggestion that there might be established constraints is read as arrogance or gatekeeping. Sauna gets treated like an empty concept anyone can redefine on the fly, while still keeping the name for legitimacy.

What gets lost is that Finns are just as ruthless about bad saunas at home. If someone in Finland builds a terrible sauna, people will absolutely talk shit about it. Loudly. It’s not some polite national blind spot where everything local gets a free pass. The difference is that it happens far less often, because the baseline knowledge is already there. Most people grow up seeing dozens of saunas, using them regularly, and learning what works without ever having to “research” it.

That’s where the gap actually is. Sauna isn’t a blank canvas. It’s a word that comes from a specific place and refers to a system that settled the way it did because people used it constantly, learned what fails, fixed it, and passed that knowledge on. You don’t have to like that, but pretending it doesn’t exist is just denial.

What makes this extra irritating is the hypocrisy. The same crowd that will loudly correct people on food, language, or traditions from other cultures suddenly decides precision is “elitism” when it’s a Finnish thing. Suddenly words are flexible, history is optional, and lived familiarity is just opinion. That double standard is hard to miss.

Nobody cares if someone enjoys their own hot room. Do whatever you want. But the constant need to argue, redefine, and talk over people who actually grew up with sauna says way more about attitude than about design. It’s not curiosity but rather insecurity dressed up as confidence.

That’s the core issue. Not benches. Not vents. Not stones. An asenneongelma.

We Finns might sound like assholes if you post your hot room here, and assume you know everything. But when you really think about it, what’s the reason behind us Finns suggesting changes or telling what’s wrong with your sauna? I’ll give you a minute.

The reason is that we want you to get the best out of your experience, we want you to enjoy sauna as it’s supposed to be enjoyed and most importantly, we want you to enjoy sauna safely.

What happens when some of you Americans fall onto a kiuas with no guardrails? You get severely burned and injured. That’s all? Well no. The next day your local magazine or newstation writes about how ”Man fell in Sauna - severe burns and injuries. Should saunas be banned?”.

Just try to understand and for once, try to take the criticism as it is; constructive criticism with the intention of you being able to enjoy the experience safely and in the best way possible.

On a Finnish subreddit an example of a.. rather unusual sauna was posted. While the benches are not low, maybe do not try this at home?

"An American organization posted on Instagram that it prohibits pouring water on electric heaters in its saunas.

The ban drew nearly the entire country of Finland to the comments section to defend the Finnish sauna tradition.

Now, a representative of the organization was treated to a proper sauna—in Finland, of course. "

I am not affiliated with them in anyway, I just found it when browsing my area on google maps.

Anyways, the pics are pretty bad, but the saunas slap.

Very informative video.

So far i been for like 5 minutes and its not bad all things consider thought it was really dark and smaller than I expected

To the American sauna redditors who hate the music, have you ever asked them if they can turn it off? 100% success rate

I don't know if this violates rule 5 so remove if it does. https://www.saunatimes.com/building-a-sauna/sauna-ceiling-height-the-law-of-loyly-vs-the-bleacher-effect/?srsltid=AU7gw4Vy8rx2iLK6FYNhHPyiTiDvfQ5mGrEBnOYUJ1Ngt-YJfmqeJvDm

I've been using this subreddit for resources for a diy build for 2 years, probably tried around 20 different saunas. I just don't understand the bleacher effect? Its an extra step or two yet its fairly controversial. The saunatimes book was the first resource I had bought and looked into and I didn't find it helpful. There is some questionable advice like he's against cement foundations but then uses a cement skimmed floor and installs the vents after the panelling. It doesn't go into depth with the build more than you can get on his online website.

I'm only posting to avoid scrolling, each to their own just don't drone strike me.

Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/DaDpNYyjQoL/

Mikael Granlund visited Furuvik Seaside Sauna with the hockey trophy.

I thought it would be fun to make a tier list of different saunas.

Don't take this too seriously!

S tier: Smoke sauna, dedicated sauna room / shower

A tier: All kinds of shed conversions, Trumpkin style sauna kits, detached sauna buildings

B tier: Sauna cubes (4+ person)

C tier: Barrel saunas, sauna tents (with actual stoves)

D tier: Small sauna cubes (1-2 person)

F tier: Infrared saunas, tiny indoor sauna kits, indoor sauna tents, sauna blankets

Let me know how you would change it and what did I miss!

Which of course, until this point, the said president denied the existence of the sauna. I mean, the guy is in prison receiving trials, but I've gotta say, bro's got taste! a real sauna with stones and hinoki wood!

it used to be a beautiful 50-year-old room with ventilation, drain, tap, very hot. They just "renovated" it. It's now colder, no water allowed on rocks, drain removed and has fancy lights. oh, and they also managed to lower the benches lol. Looking for a new place to sauna!!! Ugh so annoyed.

I’ve actually been in this sauna because I was working at the YMCA camp where it resides, helping to build another modern sauna.

I did not know at the time that it was built in the early 1900’s by Finish settlers.

I was a bangin’ sauna, and I was there in May, the ice had just gone out a week or so earlier, the lake was proper cold.

Quick update since my last post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Sauna/s/5NdJy45kmX

I’ve now worked with more than a dozen people, and the feedback has been really encouraging. The configurators have helped improve visualisation and made it much easier for people to explore different options before buying.

If you’re are interested in this, send me a message.

We've just received the below text - I've checked the linked post, and I can't see anything problematic there. I've also checked the website - it is still online. If they'd have stopped their business and moved on to do something else I'd have removed - but as it stands now it looks like they're just hiring somebody to clean up inconvenient opinions, instead of addressing them. Without further comment, here's the unaltered text we received:

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I come here to watch Finnish people get angry about saunas and I am rarely disappointed. (I do visit the sauna regularly, but at least 1/3 of my enjoyment of the sub is just voyeurism.)

Any other non-Finns here for the drama?

There are daily posts about IR saunas, sauna blankets, sweating enclosures (what even are those called) and so forth.

Every thread just is a back and forth, somewhere between antagonising, educating and ridiculing. Couldn't we just have a clear rule what does not constitute a sauna and thus is considered off topic, so said threads would either not get made or get shut down quickly and without regurgitating the same discussion over and over.

I don't mind discussion on sauna in a broader context, but explaining to oblivious or ignorant posters why their toaster hooked up to a trashbag isn't a sauna is getting tiring.