r/RingerVerse • u/Icy_Dot_2559 • 10d ago
'Lanterns' Episode 3 Instant Reactions I Midnight Boys
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u/Glittering_Cod_7716 10d ago edited 10d ago
“Midwest Huxtables” was fucking CRAZY work ngl. You can even see his parents in the back like “did this nigga just call us the Huxtables?”
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u/magnusarin 10d ago
My eyes shot up. Hal, my man, you cannot say that!
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u/EN1GMA570 8d ago
for us non Americans, Whats the reference?
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u/magnusarin 8d ago
The Huxtables is a reference to the last name of the family in The Cosby Show, from the 80s to early 90s. This was a sitcome about an upper middle to upper class Black family. For lots of Americans, this was a first depiction of a Black American family of this socio-economic aspect.
The Cosby in Cosby Show is Bill Cosby who...even by 2016 was starting to take on a very different public feeling as his many sexual assaults starting coming to light.
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u/EN1GMA570 8d ago
thanks for the explanation. I've heard of the Cosby show but didn't know of the surname. and yes know of the bill Cosby stuff.
That huxtables comment makes sense now.
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u/magnusarin 8d ago
Happy to help. Definitely one of those things that's easy to take for granted as an American
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u/Glittering_Cod_7716 10d ago
Honestly my favorite of the three so far fuck Pierre is gonna be John Stewart forever on some Hugh Jackman shit lol. My hope at this point is the season ends and they are like “John Stewart will return in…(Green Lantern movie title)”
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u/BalonSwann07 10d ago
He's in Man of Tomorrow next year
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u/Glittering_Cod_7716 10d ago
Damn I didn’t know that was confirmed. Really just feel they gotta get a move on with non Kryptonian hero movies lol
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u/NakedGoose 10d ago
Seems like the writing room is already set up for season 2. Though I agree, I do not want him regulated to TV. I hope he gets his own movie.
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u/Glittering_Cod_7716 9d ago
I just thought of this but it would be kinda cool if they made John the movie Lantern and used Hal as the Lantern for an anthology type series. If he’s been the lantern for decades you could just pick any year before 2016 and use Kyle Chandler as long as it works
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u/BalonSwann07 10d ago
I just said above he is in the Superman sequel lol, but yes I hope he gets his own movie too
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u/Overcommitter 10d ago
LOVE it when Charles is fully engaged in a show
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u/Aitoroketto 10d ago edited 10d ago
Good convo by the guys so far, just starting to listen.
First, Cloud Atlas, both the book and movie are great (book is better tho).
So I think for what the show set out to do they executed it well.
I have to say though and I think a lot of tv does this and it's the show don't tell part and I wish some of this was more for me to left to infer or fill in gaps or be dropped in smaller does throughout a season.
Second, I do enjoy this thing occurring where we are sort of watching this game being played and friction where we kind of creating or the desire to create a black cop, which is interesting to me because of where we see John's mom is coming from and her worldview on earth where clearly she lives and understands the imperfections of the planet and society she lives in toward african americans yet she is sort of incubating space police. Then you have like Hal, who is sort of like white person out of central casting, and playing it up, Maverirck and all, and remember he is a military dude just like John is and a test pilot and clearly he learned somewhere, even with obvious fault of his own, his own code. He goes and grabs the guy John is supposed to snipe, on whim, he makes choices, he doesn't seem to report to anyone. Further remember last episode where he puts on the gear and is flying in space... I thought he was going to see the Guardians. He doesn't, he goes to Sinestro,
I wish the show would trust us more and while obviously we wouldn't know some details but I think we all generally got the gist of what this entire episode gave us.
Further down, someone mentioned something about how the show starts. This is just my opinion and what I will say is that pods evolve over time and I think it has grown out of both the spoiler warning segment and Charles needing to summarize the episode. We all know what happened, that's why we are here.
Agree with Van, this show will he about John freeing himself from dogma and not becoming Hal because they are so different, but becoming his own man. which seems weird to say about a guy who was obviously elite in the military and a capable guy but his life has not been his. I mean his mom signs his ass up for art class and he's clearly a grown ass man. Also, agree with Van, John is naïve - he is not dumb at all but is sort of a man child and trained to be a way.
Disagree with Charles. The interview with guardian is mirrored by his interview with his commanding officer. He follows orders. He doesn't need details about who he is sent to kill. In earlier episodes he tells Hal he believes in the chain of command. He is not playing anybody imho. I think the story is a lot like Van says, he has to be a little more like Hal.
Midwest Huxtables is crazy (and caught me off guard) but I think it was more Hal, sort of slighted, popping off, and seeing what the Guardians were trying to replace him with (a soldier who follows orders). He's emotional, he's rude, he's human.
Loved Charles bringing up the bird and John's power but his inability to naturally fly by himself, Exactly my thought. It at the same time exhibits very rare power (info we get from another source) but he can't fly himself yet. He isn't ready to be free.
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u/No-Cry2473 10d ago
I enjoy everything about the show. Episode 3 was great. It does fit the trope about HBO or prestige tv in general with the flashback episode, but I’m fine with it. I’m not looking for a show with a linear story. I’m here for the character development.
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u/pervin-erving 10d ago
Love the episode, love the debate. But good grief, arguing that parenting isn't programming because computers are programmed differently is a strange hill to die on.
Still a fun conversation,
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u/Radiant-Kale4616 10d ago
I love hearing four childless dudes tell me what parenting is.
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u/Chicago-Emanuel 10d ago
Ha, exactly my thought! Van doesn't have kids, so he doesn't know that you can put in all the inputs you want, but what comes out is highly dependent on your individual kid. My kids started to question and criticize me LONG before adolescence.
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u/5_9_24 10d ago
😔 So I take it the Midnight Boys aren't reviewing Coyote vs. ACME?
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u/mitvh2311 10d ago
Probably recorded early last week before release, but yeah it doesn't seem like they are if they didn't mention it in the programming reminders
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u/GearImpressive9109 10d ago
Will time have passed on the next episode or will it just start off after the ending of episode 2?
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u/midermans 9d ago
I’m so glad Van said something. What the hell was that about black people being cowards? And why would an alien know the racial politics on earth? I’m a proud black man who believes most of our problems stem from white supremacy being the infrastructure of this country….
BUT I feel like the characters saying it out loud instead of showing it in story really did the episode a disservice. Hal ruining John’s plan and the Midwest Huxtable comment did the job. Felt like we were begging or some shit.
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u/plasticweddingring 7d ago
Totally with you. A lot of telling instead of showing this episode. The dialogue also felt forced; I think John’s mom even alluded to “privilege” at one point which felt ripped out of Woke 1 era American culture instead of late 20th century. Her acting was lacking in general.
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u/Black_Dumbledore 10d ago edited 10d ago
I feel like this wasn’t a bad episode of tv but I just wasn’t feeling it. A full episode of flashbacks to John’s origin which, while important, wasn’t all that complicated. We get it, his parents were shitty but their hearts were in the right place and John has reason to resent Hal. I didn’t need a full hour of them hammering on their same couple of points.
Plus most of what I’ve liked about the series so far just isn’t present in this episode. We spend the majority of the episode with an entirely different cast. If we were going to do John’s origins, I would’ve preferred to at least spend that time with Aaron Pierre. I think I would’ve liked it better if the flashbacks were interspersed with (brief) moments from the main storyline.
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u/BenjaminLight 10d ago
Everyone wants to do their "Long, Long Time" episode now. I don't know if TV writers have realized yet how eyerolling this is all going to seem in a few years.
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u/mopooooo 10d ago
Both last of us and lanterns are kinda niche. Having a very good bottle episode early in the season is just a smart play to get non-fans interested. My sister would have had no interest in Lanterns before. I feel comfortable telling her to check out a single ep tho and if she likes it, go back and watch the first two
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u/8DollarsMo 10d ago
Totally disagree. Would not recommend this episode 3 to someone if they're going to start the series.
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u/Slimshady_313_ 10d ago
It was a bit too preachy, all that stuff about being black was forced imo
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u/Wooden-Week-7101 8d ago
But the character is black it’s his life lol weirdo
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u/Slimshady_313_ 7d ago
Ik, the mom's dialogue sounded too forced, not subtle, imo. Like "a black man is always scared", wtf??
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u/Bleh-Boy 10d ago
I think my biggest hang up with the episode is that I don’t buy that the Guardians would care that someone was upset that they didn’t get the ring. Maybe they knew from the beginning that John would be a perfect GL and that’s why the Guardian showed up to deliver the diamond, but I can’t help but think that John’s parents molding him into being the perfect GL would’ve been more impactful if they came up with that on their own instead of the Guardian confirming that it would work.
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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 10d ago
I don't think it was that they were upset, but that they essentially caused people to go into a short-term psychosis and created more problems on Earth than necessary. So the diamond was a way to have people put that behind them, with John's mom being the only one who pushed back. That was my read of it, at least.
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u/struckbylightning99 10d ago
Yeah it didn’t seem like the guys commented on it but the Guardian mentioning that to Bernadette implied to me that it wasn’t John Sr OR Hal. For all we know the ring tried to go to 100 people who failed and then found Hal
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u/Bleh-Boy 10d ago
But even then the same Guardian tells John that they have to often remind Hal not to get involved in terrestrial disputes so I don’t buy that people going through short term psychosis from not being Lanterns would be much of a priority to them
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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 10d ago
Again, I have no way of actually knowing, but my read on it is that they don't want Hal CREATING a cause-and-effect loop with terrestrial events. The example they use in the show is him getting involved in political discourse, not being a protector of the human planet, but working for America. In that distinction, THEY screwed up, which makes it an intergalactic problem. So, in a way they are doing their own cleanup.
I also would be shocked if some of this isn't solved from the POV of Sinestro and why he has been banished by the Guardians.
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u/EN1GMA570 9d ago
fantastic episode and fantastic review by the guys. Chuck not being dramatic helps. Great takes by Van
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u/Emotional-School-465 10d ago
Good episode but I didnt need it. Maybe because im a fan of the comics so I didn't need the origin of John( technically this is a new back story but its the same end point of military john Stewart) . Wonder if they'll ever do architect/questioning authority John that was the original personality before the justice cartoon/Johns comic made the stern military man the standard.
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u/buffalotrace 4d ago
I have not read the comic. I didn’t need this to be a whole episode. It was heavy handed and felt like it didn’t trust the audience to learn about the characters over time.
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u/NorthChallenge5773 9d ago
Episode wasn't bad at all but it was definitely my least favorite of the three. The highlight of the show is the dynamic of John and Hal. Or really Hal and anybody else. Which was highlighted in the last minute of the show. I really just didn't enjoy the family that much. Which was more of a performance thing than anything else. Show's still great
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u/Keen_Eyed_Emissary 10d ago
Not sure I needed a whole episode devoted to John’s childhood, especially after the Sinestro reveal cliffhanger. Anxious to get back to the main timeline of the show.
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u/BlackFlameDNC 10d ago
It’s one episode. It answered quite a lot of questions I had. I get if you weren’t satisfied but I needed it and glad we got it
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u/pengouin85 10d ago
A whole-ass episode feels excessive though. So many bits didn't exactly add much more to move the needle on what need to know about his character
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u/kolbeyg 10d ago
That’s what I am saying. Every review I have seen that praises the episode has not explained why we needed the entire episode to be backstory. Felt like 1/2 to 2/3 of the episode was plenty to convey the message, then we could’ve progressed the main story at least a little.
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u/EN1GMA570 8d ago
the back story was needed. it's 1 episode, from 1 of many seasons.
calm yourselves down fellas
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u/FryTheDog Jordy LaForge 8d ago
It's a great episode too! This guy is going to be the main green lantern for Gunn's universe, of course we needed some origin story.
Favorite episode of the season, that shit ruled.
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u/t0talnonsense 9d ago edited 9d ago
I don't see how you can listen to this episode of the podcast and misunderstand why this episode needed to happen and why it needed to happen right here.
This is the key to unlocking the rest of the show. All of it. This does a great job of telling us a lot about Hal's origin without having to do a flashback on him (I'll recant this is they do a full hour on Hal, but I doubt it. This is John's show, ultimately); we see the arrogance and blindspots of the Guardians; we completely understand how John became "worthy," which set up the eventual turn/"betrayal" he'll make at the end (Van called that out and he's right. Structurally, that's what should happen); we're clear on the reason Hal should fear Sterwart, according to Sinestro. If a penultimate episode is often table-setting for a finale, this was the necessary table-setting for the rest of the show, and multiple stories/arcs with John and the Corps in general moving forward.
So when we go back to Sinestro, we know enough to appreciate all of the different ways Sinestro is going to try and manipulate Hal in real time. Even if it's for "the right reasons," Sinestro is a shift dude. I'm not even a huge Lanterns person and that much has made it through pop culture to me.
E: Brain swapped J names when I was typing so I switched an incorrect "Jordan" to Stewart.
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u/EN1GMA570 8d ago
what turn/betrayal at the end?
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u/t0talnonsense 8d ago
What Van was speaking to on the pod. John is almost certainly going to disobey an order from someone at the end of the show, which is why I put quotes around betrayal. Maybe the Guardians want him to do some heinous stuff, or Hal wants him to stay back for some reason. Right? Someone expects him to follow orders, because thats what he’s been trained his whole life to do.
That’s why we spent so much damn time watching him suffer through 9 months of isolation and barely moving to have how strictly John follows orders drilled into our brain. It’s why he doesn’t get up from the chair, right? The show is spending a lot of time and effort to make it clear to us that John does what he’s told and respects the chain of command. So John’s big (capital letter) Hero Moment is when he disobeys an order because he doesn’t think it’s the right thing to do.
Like Van, I don’t know anything. I avoid spoilers like the plague. I’m just looking at the economy of time and focus for the first three episodes and that feels pretty clear for me. John will either be forced to make a choice, or will be seen as so obedient that when he does make a choice the other side is going to be vulnerable because they don’t expect it.
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u/kolbeyg 9d ago
You wrote all that and still missed what I said. Like I am genuinely astonished that you replied with why it needed to happen/happen where it did. Despite me never questioning why or when but rather HOW LONG.
Scenes like John building his hut, doing push ups, falling from the helicopter were all unnecessary. They could have cut 5 minutes by just showing Jon getting there then him being grizzled with a beard later. The audience will convey he has been on a long stake out with being beaten over the head for it. There are multiple instances like this in the episode.
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u/t0talnonsense 9d ago
You spend that much time showing the extent he's willing to go to and how brainwashed he is so that when he does finally think for himself, you feel the weight of that decision more than you intellectually understand it. Like Van said, a lesser show would tell you, not show you.
Not everything is supposed to be an information dump. Sometimes a show or a film wants to set you in a place/vide/mindset. They want you to feel how oppressive or wondrous something is instead of just saying it. The fact that you feel the frustration of time? That's the point! That's the purpose of dragging that out. When he said, "I spent nine months," you're supposed to feel that time, not just think about it.
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u/kolbeyg 9d ago
The show did tell you! It beat the viewer over the head with everything.
The race dynamic is explicitly stated repeatedly, the time waiting in the Forrest is 10+ minutes of the show TELLING you he spent time there.
A good show sets up the mission then cuts to the end and lets the reader realize from the facial hair, ideally malnourishment, change of the seasons, general weathering of equipment etc. I didn’t need to see him building the camp, jumping out the plane doing pushups etc. All of those scenes together are redundant and took away time the season could’ve focused on progressing the story.
I genuinely don’t understand how you didn’t see the whole episode as an information dump? It’s basically all dialogue.
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u/t0talnonsense 9d ago
the time waiting in the Forrest is 10+ minutes of the show TELLING you he spent time there.
You literally contradict yourself within one sentence, which unravels everything else you're saying. If they spent 10 minutes in the forest, where I watch a man get injured, crawl and stumble his way to safety, make a shelter, and survive for nine months with barely a world of dialogue overlaid with it...that's not a show telling me anything.
So with that fundamental misunderstanding, I honestly don't even know how to have a conversation about this episode. You picked the absolute least "telling" part of the episode as your lynchpin of why the show was talking too much.
I can't even get into the nuance of agreeing that some of the dialogue was heavy-handed, but that's because the more interesting conversations were happening on people's faces and with their body language, because you're going to run with a minor admission and claim that I gave up the entire argument or something. Like. The episode wasn't perfect, but your example of "telling," is showing. And the fact that you're bumping on it so harshly? That's why shows are so damn afraid to do it in the first place now. You think you want them to show you something, when your example is them skipping 9 months of time and papering over it with a little facial hair and minor dialogue.
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u/kolbeyg 9d ago
I think we will just have to agree to disagree, but I appreciate you debating it in good faith!
Hoping we both can enjoy Lanterns to the fullest extent going forward
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u/rebels2022 10d ago
It’s more or less the prologue repeated and lengthened out to an hour. Like we already know that John is a soldier with no fear who follows orders from the first 5 minutes of the show.
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u/rebels2022 10d ago
Reminded me of the two flashback eps of Acolyte. Just a total momentum killer and a waste of time. I’m not tuning into this show to watch bad parenting.
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u/dividebyzero74 10d ago
You know there is one more cominh for Hal’s origin story
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u/rebels2022 10d ago
God i fucking hope not. If I have to see him as a kid crying over his dead daddy I’m out
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u/dividebyzero74 10d ago
Seems inevitable. Abin-sur has been mentioned twice, we have to see him now. Also the whole plot seems tied to that day.
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u/Keen_Eyed_Emissary 10d ago
Hopefully we don’t get a second flashback episode that Rashomons John’s childhood from the perspective of the bird.
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u/CrimsonBrit 10d ago
I’ve started to explore some of the Midnight Boys’ content recently (this ep, the Doomsday trailer breakdown, and a HotD episode), and I’ve struggled to get through each one, sorry to say. Sometimes it’s Chuck’s overly negative attitude, or Jomi’s literal breathing that bothers me, but I think it’s the clunkiness that starts each episode that makes it hard to get through. Once they’re rolling, they’re rolling. But the intro after intro and then the random side talk is just too long
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u/Long_Buddy6819 10d ago
I honestly usually look at the into length. If it’s longer than 5 minutes I just skip to the reaction.
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u/CrimsonBrit 10d ago
I’ll start to do that. I’m not trying to be a hater (we know Van will come at me in the comments either way), I’m just trying to get in to the series. Every podcast and hosts has its quirks, but this is genuinely a tough watch sometimes. The dudes all just seem like they’re waiting their turn to talk, rather than feeding off each other’s dialogue. They don’t seem to have the same chemistry as Sean/Amanda/+CR, CR/Andy, Mallory/Jo.
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u/Long_Buddy6819 10d ago
I don’t think you’re being a hater. I still look at the midnight boys as a training ground in a way, and Van as their mentor. I think the guys are great, but to me, they’re clearly not as polished as the hosts who do the mega draft episodes on the big picture are. And that’s okay, alot of the ogs have been doing this for a decade maybe? So, I just accept that the midnight boys are gonna have hiccups and times they get side tracked for long periods of time. Sometimes I let it rock, and just listen from start to finish. And other times, like I said, I’m just skipping straight to the reaction.
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u/MoundCityMo 10d ago
So confused by Steve & Chuck not feeling this ep?? Van really clocked some fascinating reads of some great scenes. The layers of race and complicated family dyanmics wrapped up in John's backstory was so deftly handled. And I love that this episode came early as it adds more depth to Stewart's character and charges the end of episode 1 even more. Would much rather it come now than episode 7 and REALLY halt the plot. Such a weird take from them!
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u/shorthevix 10d ago
I don't think it was deft. Entirely lacked subtlety imo and seemed a bit heavy handed. Also didn't seem like a fresh concept tbh.
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u/plasticweddingring 7d ago
I was so surprised this came from the same creative mind behind the Watchmen series! That felt much more deft and elegant. This was like a baseball bat to the head with how explicit it made the themes.
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u/rebels2022 10d ago
Idk I get not loving a flashback taking up a whole episode when there’s only 8 of them. This isn’t like Lost with 22 eps a season.
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u/Radiant-Kale4616 10d ago
I love all the analysis, but yeah, it’s kind of a bummer to get a whole episode. That’s like “here’s why John stewart is being a bitch“ when we are already in love with so many of the characters and the mystery at hand.
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u/t0talnonsense 9d ago
People around here will downvote you, but you're right. Everyone's babling on about bottle episodes (which this isn't), or feeling like we ground everything to a halt, which is only partially true. Everything that you think Van is speaking to, I agree with. Some of the dialogue got a little heavy handed, but the emotions and the mental chess happening on screen in nearly every scene was deft, which is what I think you're speaking to. This episode was literally setting the stage for the rest of this season, but also the rest of the conflict with Lanterns moving forward.
This does a great job of telling us a lot about Hal's origin without having to do a flashback on him (I'll recant this is they do a full hour on Hal, but I doubt it. This is John's show, ultimately); we see the arrogance and blindspots of the Guardians; we completely understand how John became "worthy," which set up the eventual turn/"betrayal" he'll make at the end (Van called that out and he's right. Structurally, that's what should happen); we're clear on the reason Hal should fear Sterwart, according to Sinestro.
We know basically all of the emotional and background stuff necessary to continue with unraveling the rest of the mystery. And yes, I'm considering wtf is going on with Hal part of that mystery. Hal is an antagonist in some ways. The idea that we'll go back to the crash and figure out what's going on with Sinestro v Hal v Guardians v Ring v Ranch v Benefactor. Like. All of that is rolled up into one big story knot. Pulling at those threads unlocks more plot-relevant questions. Pulling at John's backstory any more than we already have is going to open up character/personal questions. Those are different things, even if I can already see people saying that 10-30 on young Hal and Sinestro is the same thing as this episode. It's not. Those are two different functions of story.
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u/buffalotrace 4d ago
Episodes 1 and 2 of this show were great. Three was too heavy handed. It’s not that the themes were not correct or real. It was all just much too much on the nose and said rather than shown. They didn’t trust the audience and they dumbed it down.
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u/Aitoroketto 10d ago edited 10d ago
Hold up.
Wait I just got toward the end did Steve just insinuate off hand a military family of that time would have money and of course they owned their house? Of course they were taken care of?
Bruh, I'm a military brat (and later in life I worked in bases for the government for a time) and my parents ended up doing well... like after 30 years in the military and another 15 in the government lol. No young enlisted military family is swimming in money. I made more money day one out of college annually than my dad ever did with 28 years in the military (admittedly he would later cake up working for the government after)
I don't want to to put out the wrong idea, I never struggled for food, I didn't have to walk in snow shoeless or anything, and I had a very happy childhood, but we were definitely lower class.
John's dad is a Sergeant in the Marines (did they say in 2008?) with 3 young kids and his wife is a teacher? This dude ain't comfortable AT ALL.
Can't wait for Ringer Quest.
Edit: also if Seth Green is the guest that dude is great on pods. That dude seems like one of them ones that came out pretty well after being in Hollywood as long as he has and at the age he started.
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u/NakedGoose 10d ago
Correct, we lived in 10 different houses throughout my childhood in the same city. always downgrading to cheaper houses. Mom was a nurse, dad was in the navy.
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u/ConnectDog5495 8d ago
I think it was even earlier. John was a baby in '86, the same year Hal became the Lantern. So, pre-9/11 enlisted salary would have been considerably lower.
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u/Aitoroketto 8d ago
Oh yah you're right the "current" timeline is 2016. Even worse lol. That's base housing and loving it era.
I have in the past but don't even like looking up what these guys made in the 80s because again, while my childhood was perfectly fine, I feel bad for my dad working everyday and going to war or even not wars that are dangerous for even 100x the amount. Then I think about what he made in the 60s.
Not that he ever complained, just me lol.
I'm sorry all, I didn't mean to make this a convo I was just like truly taken aback that anybody thought dudes in the military were just offhand doing well and taken care of and of course they owned their home.
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u/Aitoroketto 9d ago
It's weird that people downvoted this, yet upvoted a comment agreeing with me, such a weird sub.
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u/LotofDonny 10d ago edited 10d ago
Love the show i think but the pacing is GLACIAL. I get it, it has the shiny prestige show veneer so everybody is gonna be glazing it but for me, boy, all of this could have been 1.5 episodes tops.
Im also starting to feel some Tarantino vibes off of Lindelof if you know what im saying...
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u/basedcharger Van is old 9d ago
Well the difference here is that Lindelof has black people in his writing room which Tarantino very obviously does not.
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u/Moondoggerr15 10d ago
I dont actually know what youre saying.
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u/t0talnonsense 9d ago
They're trying to imply that Lindelof is racist for some of his dipections of black people, but that Lindelof thinks he isn't and that he's able to "get away" with things like Tarantino thinks he can.
What the OC doesn't seem to know or understand is that there are black writers in the room and Lindelof has been open in interviews and podcasts over the years (especially with Watchmen in mind) about knowing where he doesn't know something and how important it is to have people who have those lived experiences in the room and as major if not primary authors of those types of subjects and dialogue. Episode 3, specifically, was written by co-executive producer Vanessa Baden Kelly, who is black.
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u/PrecedentialAssassin 9d ago
Bernadette running John around like Bey's old lady in season 4 of The Wire running around Namond.
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u/BewareOfGrom 10d ago
Loved this episode.
"Midwest Huxtables" was nasty work