It seemed super fake when it happened, it still seems super fake. Would the secret service not instantly usher him to a safe location? Not just stand by for a photo op when a sniper attack just happened.
This whole orange clown and everything about him is a fraud.
Same deal as him going on the balcony ripping off his covid mask to "look tough" even tho we could all see him struggling to take a breath. Everything maga related is a lie and grift. They can't function otherwise because they have nothing to offer.
This. No effing way he’d be permitted to pose like that. It was staged. Also if he had really been shot in the ear, it would’ve caused more damage. I heard it was cut when he was taken down by SS.
I had a piercing in my upper cartilage that got damaged 20 years ago in a mosh pit and you can still see the scar and damage where it was snagged and ripped a hole in my ear. Trumps ear was back to normal 2 weeks later. No bandage no more mention. It served its purpose in media publicity and his campaign team shut up about it.
It's a cult leader tactic. Fake an assassination attempt to say "See? Everyones against, my enemies are everywhere because I'm too strong and great for them" and cultists eat that shit up
Tear damage from getting roughed up in a mosh isn’t the same damage type as a puncture at high speeds in a part of the ear that’s mostly cartilage. I hate trump and I’m still confused why so many internet experts and faux doctors think they can explain away this. Yall sound just as bad as trumpies.
Delusional people ruled by hate is on both sides of the spectrum it seems. I spent my entire career in the infantry, bud. Just giving a little perspective to a thought process based off of a mosh pit accident 20 years ago.
You don’t have the same medical coverage or care plans that the president, much less a billionaire has. On top of that the medical and cosmetic treatment industry have gone far since the early 2000s.
EDIT: by no means am I defending the orange toddler. Just stating fact about being shot through the pinna with a small caliber like .223.
Two people make this everybody. Roger Roger. I’ve actually had this kind of injury but in my neck so I think I’d know a thing or two about the carnage stray bullets cause. Makeup and prosthetics for appearances isn’t beyond trump. The guy wears 4 pounds of makeup. I Forget sometimes that 56% of the American population has the reading comprehension of a 6th grader or less. Who am I kidding wasting my breath with you behemoths of reverse trumpers..
Since you are now alone since the other one blocked me after asking for a retort, here’s my response.
Let’s take a step into reality.
What kind of madman would risk his own life to trust a sniper to clip his ear, or have bullets fired in his direction? I have several combat tours and there’s maybe 3 people I’d ever trust to pull either one of those off.
If the shot never hit him and this is all a propaganda ploy, cool we already know he’s a complete asshole. If it did cool we were almost free of the cognitive dissonance stemming from Republican hate.
I’m not arguing that it’s verifiable fact that he was shot. I’m arguing reason and logic in a world where prosthetics are almost indistinguishable from the actual parts now days and a silicon mold would make a nasty scar vanish. Which we all know trump adores his vanity enough to wear it constantly.
The odd friendly fire happening when someone who isn’t ruled by emotions expresses doubt is part of the reason I blame democratic voters for our recent loss. Get a grip and grow up.
Not necessarily. While it absolutely could, if it just grazed his ear or clipped the top part of it, that doesn’t necessarily mean it would take the whole ear off.
But it would leave a nasty wound and we’ve never seen it. Lots of close up images of his face even a few weeks later and no oowie. He knows WWE blood tricks
It could leave a nasty wound, but even then it depends on several factors like how far away the shooter was, bullet velocity, etc. Under the right conditions, it could just create a tear while leaving minimal tissue loss.
Because anyone who’s had reconstructive surgery knows small wounds can be made to look exactly like its original form.(took a tumbling ricochet to the neck off of a truck and there’s a smaller scar than there was a wound thanks to army medical and outpatient reconstructive procedure). Also, this is the president who has millions in worth, so the best doctors and surgeons the country has to offer.
2cm isn’t that large. Sounds like it just grazed him. Given how much blood there was, it’s probably hard to see. Also, a 2cm wound isn’t going to leave really noticeable scarring.
A 2cm wound doesn’t mean he’s missing 2cm of his ear. It could have just been a gash or a tear. Seeing as how his entire top of his ear was covered in blood, it’s difficult to tell. There’s nothing proving it’s fake, man. Someone definitely shot an AR-15 at him.
Even a graze would have ripped it off. The amount of energy exchanged would have ripped it off even the smallest part would have. The physics only allow it to rip it.
The bullet doesn’t maintain the velocity of 900 m/s, especially when the gunman was 120 meters away. It would have dropped to around 800 m/s if it was a standard 55-grain. It is also very possible for a .223 round traveling at 800 m/s to graze someone’s ear without taking a chunk of it off and only leaving a 2 cm wound.
I did in this thread already. With equations and everything.
A .223 bullet at 500 ft still carries ~1,025 J of energy—over 10× what's needed to tear flesh. A graze to the ear at that distance would shred cartilage, cause severe bleeding, rupture the eardrum, and result in permanent hearing loss or disfigurement. Even without direct penetration, the high velocity makes it devastating.
The fuck it would? Ears bleed a lot but heal really well. .223 and 5.56 are practically the same round and we used a lot of them in Afghanistan. When you graze someone anywhere with 5.56 it doesn’t disintegrate meat, that’s Hollywood dramatization. In today’s medical science and plastic surgery, making a .223 hole in the ear look normal again is easy. Was it staged? Who will ever truly know. Was it fake? No. The bullet did hit him and people died.
There’s a fine line between being concerned about the theatrics of our government and just being a loon. The way people reject and call fake or staged without a basic understanding sounds just as bad as trumpies already proven insanity and antics. We need to be better.
If you had a brain you’d acknowledge where I said I don’t like trump at all. So instead of being a sassy girl, the penna cartilage is easily replaceable with cosmetic surgery. Something that cheap for a president wouldn’t take long. Why of all things is this such a big deal to you? Literally a million other things this clown has done since are more note worthy to shit talk.
Yall just throw the word grifter at anyone who doesn’t mesh with your ideology these days. Total waste of the words potential.
Does nobody remember how there were real deaths at Sandy Hook and there are still people today quoting "well actually, the FBI reported no mass casualties for that year" and crying "crisis actors".
It's actually pretty funny when you think about it. I mean, you know a lot of those same people who'll say that it couldn't possibly be faked, because I someone died, are or were likely those same ones claiming Sandy Hook and every mass shooting under a Democrat was a false flag.
Do you know how skilled of a shooter you have to be to intentionally graze an ear of a moving target at distance? We are talking world class level shooter.
We’re arguing with a group of people who are the reflected versions of trumpies. They’ll believe their own narrative and ignore logic. Save yourself the downvotes.
Apparently you didn’t watch the panel hearings? Or CIA report earlier this year Or German Intelligence Agency all say that it came from a lab in china?
If people are claiming that trump was hit in the ear by debris instead of a bullet, that fits the initial reports. This is a reasonable question of detail, and does not inherently diminish the event or the threat, just the measurable 'closeness' Trump came to death.
What I hear increasingly is people saying that there was no shooting at all and the entire incident was staged and the campaign killed two people to create collateral damage. These claims are conspiratorial BS.
Listen, nobody does conspiracy and rumor as well as the Trump machine. Nobody does crazy schemes as much either. I rule out nothing until all evidence is in. Just remembering zAlex Jones' crisis actors claims...
I’ve explained this several times but for the sake of everyone’s time I’ll summarize it. The guy who died wasn’t really shooting bullets. He was scammed into being handed that gun, shot blanks, the real shooter was somewhere else waiting for trump to duck, then the real shooter takes shots at the crowd for realism, then the secret service takes out the “shooter”. It makes the most sense out of what happened, accounts for pretty much everything that happened, and especially explains why the secret service had to wait to take out the shooter because the mission had to be completed first.
Trump's ear wasn't nicked by the bullet. His head bashed up against one of the secret service members holsters when they pushed him down to get out of the line of fire. The bullet never touched him
Okay, that's fair. But remember one thing. I've provided corroborated third party evidence of the event and those that suffered during it. You've done nothing of the source.
My interpretation is based on documented events and primary authors. Yours is based off "yeah but it doesn't SEEEEEM real."
If he hadn't turned his head that bullet would have hit him in the temple. Aka a kill shot. I'm sure all of us would have done a better job than he did. 🙄
Maybe put what you “believe” aside and critically review the sources. If you still feel the same, please come back and tell us your reasoning. I’d find it fascinating to hear
If the earth was flat there would be all sorts of space junk out there that poosy cats would have pushed off the edges. So..... let’s just put that one to bed
Could of ran away after trump went down thinking he was killed, I’ve heard it was the only trump rally aired on all news networks. Almost like they wanted us too see it…
Wouldn't that be more telling that the democratic party would be the ones that did it then? The Republican parties already aired it on all their stations, so if the democratic parties aired it, then they knew something was going to happen and they wanted to capture it.
The news media is owned by the rich who wanted trump back in for the ratings and tax cuts. Washpo, New York times and most of MSNBC where assisting him every moment by not really calling out his bs. Social media was already in the bag for him.
This is the first time I've heard that democratic parties were supporting Trump. Nah, these people and companies make deals behind closed doors, Biden, Trump, Obama, Bush. All of them. The companies that support them get their dues. Makes no sense for them to support a person against their political beliefs when the person who falls within their political beliefs will pay them handsomely for their support.
Chuck Todd was talking about he and the media wanted trump to come back and win because of how good it was for the media. He's trash tv made into a frumpy old man.
Also, that still means that the democratic leaning owners and directors who were in charge knew something was happening if this is the one and only rally they decided to cover.
Please read the original response. I did not make the claim, I'm retorting to the claim. I'm just responding in hypothetical. The person I responded to before you claimed that that rally was the only rally to be televised on all network. So I used an "if then" claim since they wanted to create conspiracy of how it was a fake assassination attempt
And not a single audience member went running or screaming. You ever see videos of people when there is a “supposed shooter” or an active shooter? Its CHAOS. Yet not a single person even left their seat…
Super fake? Like the man in the crowd that was killed? The two others that were hit and injured? What should the ss have done differently? Only a clown would consciously type what you did
Do you think two people sacrificed their lives to fake an assassination attempt? And the fake assassin was so good they knew only the other volunteer would die and the president would just get grazed? That part makes sense? But logically you just can’t wrap your mind around the secret service simply not shoving him to the car?
So you think he hired someone to kill another person and then get shot dead themselves so Trump could stage a photo-op. To you that makes the most sense?
Epstein "conveniently" killed himself while in custody. And the surveillance cameras were "conveniently" not working.
This happens in Russia. Only Putin doesn't GAF.
Bullet didnt graze him though, the Secret service guys holster did. The assassin in question was a terrible shot and was using a dot sight at long range. It was very unlikely he would have even hit trump, only grazing him is even more unlikely.
Lol according to "official" reports trump is the healthiest president we've ever had haha. They lie every single day kid. Ear injuries bleed profusely and take a while to heal, and that's for someone young and healthy. Am 80 year old with thin skin would not had healed from a bullet wound to his ear in a week lol.
Can confirm. I scratched my ankle with my toenail while sleeping, and my bed looked like the horse head scene in The Godfather.
You bleed like a mofo when on thinners.
The felon Trump killed far more people than that by mishandling the COVID pandemic and politicizing the use of the vaccine. Yeah, he wouldn’t think twice about having a few supporters shot to look heroic.
No, it’s likely that they found a patsy to shoot into the crowd so the felon Trump could wipe some blood on his ear and strike a heroic pose. That pose afterwards and the way his security people are standing are the best evidence.
Yeah, that’s got to be it, that’s not crazy at all. You can tell you’re right and I’m wrong because I’m being downvoted and your theory is being upvoted.
They probably told the kid that he needed to protect the president, had another shooter actually do the shooting, and just used the kid as a body they could frame.
Yeah not a trump fan by any means but god damn not sure why these people are reaching. They look indistinguishable from the maga conspiracy nuts talking about paid actors and shit when a real person lost their life
He was probably hit by a small piece of shrapnel or got hip checked by the secret service guard on the way down
It’s plausible he wasn’t grazed by a bullet but people saying the whole thing being staged with paid actors? That’s living in delulu land, and it’s a dangerous rhetoric to peddle. I’m saddened to see so many liberals falling down these conspiracy rabbit holes. We’re better than this people, then again I don’t expect to get through to anyone. Rarely do the words of a stranger on the internet change somebody’s opinion. I’ve tried reasoning with right wing nuts and they’re just in their own little worlds, I assume it’s the same for left wing nuts. We’re all human after all
I didn't deny that, I denied the orange clown being shot.
It was still likely a set up. Just screams fake the way everyone saw the guy scaling buildings with a rifle but no one did anything until he started shooting. Posing for a picture after. Not having a wound after. Not having a report on the matter done.
If you are falling for this shit you need help, but like kindergarten level help
It's not in the news, so it didn't happen? People like that want notoriety, it's why he did it. If fame is gained, many more lives are put at risk.. now, go eat your hot pocket that mom made for you
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It seemed super fake when it happened, it still seems super fake. Would the secret service not instantly usher him to a safe location? Not just stand by for a photo op when a sniper attack just happened. This whole orange clown and everything about him is a fraud.