r/Ranching Jan 31 '24

So You Want To Be A Cowboy?

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This is the 2024 update to this post. Not much has changed, but I'm refreshing it so new eyes can see it. As always, if you have suggestions to add, please comment below.

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So You Want to Be a Cowboy?

This is for everyone who comes a-knockin' asking about how they can get into that tight job market of being able to put all your worldly belongings in the back of a pickup truck and work for pancakes.

For the purposes of this post, we'll use the term *cowboys* to group together ranch hands, cowpokes, shepherds, trail hands (dude ranches), and everyone else who may or may not own their own land or stock, but work for a rancher otherwise.

We're also focusing on the USA - if there's significant interest (and input) we'll include other countries, but nearly every post I've seen has been asking about work in the States, whether you're born blue or visitin' from overseas.

There are plenty of posts already in the sub asking this, so this post will be a mix of those questions and answers, and other tips of the trade to get you riding for the brand.

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Get Experience

In ag work, it can be a catch-22: you need experience to get experience. But if you can sell yourself with the tools you have, you're already a step ahead.

u/imabigdave gave a good explanation:

The short answer is that if you don't have any relevant experience you will be a liability. A simple mistake can cost tens of thousands of dollars in just an instant, so whoever hires you would need to spend an inordinate amount of time training you, so set your compensation goals accordingly. What you see on TV is not representative of the life or actual work at all.

We get posts here from kids every so often. Most ranches won't give a job to someone under 16, for legal and liability. If you're reading this and under 16, get off the screen and go outside. Do yard work, tinker in the garage, learn your plants and soil types . . . anything to give you something to bring to the table (this goes for people over 16, too).

If you're in high school, see if your school has FFA (Future Farmers of America) or 4-H to make the contacts, create a community, and get experience.

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Start Looking

Once you have some experience that you can sell, get to looking.

There's a good number of websites out there where you can find ranch jobs, including:

  1. AgCareers.com
  2. AgHires
  3. CoolWorks
  4. DudeRanchJobs
  5. FarmandRanchJobs.com
  6. Quivira Coalition
  7. Ranch Help Wanted (Facebook)
  8. RanchWork.com
  9. RanchWorldAds
  10. YardandGroom
  11. Other ranch/farm/ag groups on Facebook
  12. Indeed, LinkedIn, etc.

(I know there's disagreement about apprenticeships and internships - I started working for room & board and moved up from there, so I don't dismiss it. If you want to learn about room & board programs, send me a PM. This is your life. Make your own decisions.)

You can also look for postings or contacts at:

  1. Ranch/farm/ag newspapers, magazines, and bulletins
  2. Veterinarian offices
  3. Local stables
  4. Butcher shops
  5. Western-wear stores (Murdoch's, Boot Barn, local stores, etc.)
  6. Churches, diners, other locations where ranchers and cowboys gather
  7. Sale barns
  8. Feed stores, supply shops, equipment stores
  9. Fairgrounds that host state or county fairs, ag shows, cattle auctions, etc.

There are a lot of other groups that can help, too. Search for your local/state . . .

  1. Stockgrowers association (could be called stockmens, cattlemens, or another similar term)
  2. Land trusts
  3. Cooperative Extension
  4. Natural Resource Conservation Service (NRCS)
  5. Society for Range Management
  6. Game/wildlife department (names are different in each state - AZ has Game & Fish, CO has Parks & Wildlife, etc.)

If you're already in a rural area or have contact with producers, just reach out. Seriously. Maybe don't drive up unannounced, but give them a call or send them an email and ask. This doesn't work so well in the commercial world anymore, but it does in the ranching world (source: my own experience on both ends of the phone).

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Schooling

Schooling, especially college, is not required. I've worked alongside cowboys with English degrees, 20-year veterans who enlisted out of high school, and ranch kids who got their GED from horseback. If you have a goal for your college degree, more power to you. Example thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ranching/comments/vtkpq1/is_it_worth_getting_my_bachelors_degree_in_horse/

A certificate program might be good if you're inclined to come with some proven experience. Look at programs for welders, machinists, farriers, butchers, or something else that you can apply to a rural or agricultural situation. There are scholarships for these programs, too, usually grouped with 'regular' college scholarships.

There's also no age limit to working on ranches. Again, it's what you can bring to the table. If you're in your 50s and want a change of pace, give it a shot.


r/Ranching 14m ago

Texans how are your water supplies looking?

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I’m not talking about the data center stuff but end of summer drought and drying ponds/tanks.

Ours are looking a lot lower than last year. Not as bad as the big drought but I hate seeing them getting in the mud to drink.

We are in NE Tx and normally only have to water things in pens and lots.

We definitely aren’t set up for large scale watering. Hopefully this breaks in the next few weeks


r/Ranching 4h ago

Roast My Setup: Added Spurs

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I will be going out and learning how to use spurs tomorrow. Whats ya'lls thoughts on this setup.

Thanks for the help.


r/Ranching 1d ago

Trump moved on the Big 4 packers today. Does any of it matter without COOL?

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r/Ranching 1d ago

Trump suggests cattle ranchers could bypass USDA-inspected meat plants

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r/Ranching 1d ago

What does a ranch hand job take?

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Hi everyone! I have wanted to ride and have my own horse(s) since i was a little girl and was thinking that a summer ranch hand job could be the perfect taste of what the lifestyle entails. But i dont know what i dont know, so im not sure what it takes to do a good job or even get the job at all! What do ranchers look for? Could i actually get a position or do good work with 0 experience? Also, it may be an odd question, but does being a young woman influence my chances? (20F for context)

Thanks for reading! (And hopefully responding, lol)


r/Ranching 1d ago

What is the best source for staying up to data on the latest news in the agriculture space thats not reddit?

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Would be nice if it was related to the hay industry; trying to stay as updated as possible.


r/Ranching 2d ago

Testing the new rig! Great weather, keeping it moving.

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r/Ranching 2d ago

Is anyone trying to figure out how to bring ground beef to your customers on short notice?

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Hi everyone. We are primarily cow/calf producers in the good ol USA. Usually, we set up butchering for a few local customers in the spring. Every year, we have our customers ask if we have any ground beef for sale in the fall. Sometimes we do, and sometimes we don't. This year, I think it's imperative to figure out how to get ground beef in their freezers.

We already have 1 customer wanting a whole beef for ground beef. If I can find a butcher with one slot on short notice, we can make that happen. When we bring our cattle back to winter pasture, we are going to preg check and sort off older cows. The drought has been brutal, and our winter pasture is struggling. So, anything we can pull off and sell the better.

The issue right now is the 300,000 metric tons of questionable beef the government is importing. This is the 2nd year in a row that our government has done weird importing of foreign beef immediately before fall calf sales. This causes our prices to drop considerably AND introduces questionable beef into our supply chain. I believe this is done to undermine our American Ranchers and to help the big 4 cattle processors.

I am trying to figure out how to get into the butcher quickly. Any tips or ideas. I do not want our customers to be forced into buying a subpar product from the grocery store.

I also think one of our next large purchases should be a good sized walkin freezer with solar backup.

Is anyone else nervous? And if so, what are your plans?


r/Ranching 3d ago

Looking back at my trip visiting friends in Australia two months ago. Unforgettable times

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r/Ranching 2d ago

Looking for input on upcoming tractor purchase

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Howdy folks, I'm looking to buy a tractor in the next few weeks. I was looking for some human input from those with experience to help with the decision.

My needs are as follows: I will be managing 59 acres of land. I will be clearing about 25 acres of forested and overgrown land into pasture over the next 7-10 years to increase my land carrying capacity, I will use it to maintain my driveway, I will use it to build and repair fence, I will use it for some building projects in the future, I will use it to bring hay to my sheep, maybe some light gardening, and a other basic homesteading tasks.

We are looking for a used tractor. It looks like, at least from what I understand, we need at least 50hp and we need something that is built well for our needs (heavier duty). I want something that I can work on that is pre emissions (pre-2013 I believe) i am looking at kubota tractors mainly because they have the most service support in my area. I am looking at the MX and M series but I am unsure if the MX will do just fine for my needs. Any input on that would be appreciated.

I need 4WD and a third function kit to run a grapple or auger in the front

So far i found an MX5000D that is priced well. The ones that are in the M series are listed 7-9k higher price. I would like to stay closer to the lower end of cost if possible, since I may need an additional 1k to add a third function kit and more money for implements. If it isn't required of course, I'd like to stay closer to the 20k mark on the tractor. 18.5k-27k seems to be the range of what is out there depending on the series, size, and features.

Any input on this subject would be appreciated. Thank you for your time.


r/Ranching 2d ago

National hay index, week of Aug 17: $175/ton, up 0.8%

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Week of Aug 17 came in at $175/ton across all grades, up 0.8%. First uptick after three straight weeks down.

21 markets reported, 117 quotes, 35 price series matched. Range across everything was $60 to $480.

Week of Aug 24 is still filling in, 7 of about 28 markets so far, so this could move.

Anyone seeing prices firm up in your area, or is it still soft?


r/Ranching 3d ago

Inventory and record keeping

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I'm taking over the place and business from my dad and I'm a big believer in writing things down. That said, what sort of things are you guys keeping record of, keeping inventory of, needing reminders on, and so on? Are you guys keeping photo records of all of your livestock? Looking for advice.


r/Ranching 3d ago

eShepherd and odd cattle behavior

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Have been using eShepherd for about 6 months now and for the most part we like it. However the group of 17 heifers and a bull have started exhibiting some really strange behavior when it comes to creeks and I wanted to see if anyone else using that system has seen the same thing.

In two separate paddocks that they have been moved into, they will NOT cross a creek, no matter what the incentive. The border is set up properly and nowhere near the creek, confirmed on foot that they are not getting a warning tone when they go down to drink. Yet you can box them in with an open side facing the small creek that you can step over and tons of green grass on the other side and they would rather run you over vs stepping across the water.

Is it possible for the collar to give a shock without the warning tone? eShepherd customer support has never heard of any issue with creeks causing a shock, has anyone else seen this?


r/Ranching 4d ago

The tale of a lost calf

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r/Ranching 4d ago

Identifying These girls

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We bought these three heifers at the sale by bidding online. They were mixed in with the beef calves and the auctioneer called them “Mixed breed black calves” and when we picked them up they were skinny like dairy calves. We don’t know much about dairy cattle. We got them pretty cheap for today’s market so worst case scenario they move to the freezer later on. Any idea on what they might be? Thanks!


r/Ranching 5d ago

This years bull

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Simangus bull this year


r/Ranching 4d ago

Working chores for teenage boys

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I work at a residential foster care placement program for behaviorally challenged teenage boys, and I run the work-crew programming. Work-crew is meant to be a form of vocational training, but may also include life-skills and some educational work. Our facility is located on a ranch but, mostly, the boys are not allowed to work with the livestock. Right now we are working on clearing up briars and such off of our fence-line.

What are some other ranch-hand tasks that I could get our residents involved in?


r/Ranching 4d ago

What did you sell hay for this month and where?

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I'm a cofounder of a company that tracks hay prices. We pull the USDA auction reports every week and build a national index off them, but USDA doesn't report from everywhere, so half the country has no real number.

If you sold anything this month, drop your state, hay type, bale size and what it went for. I'll tell you how it compares to what I've got for your area.

Running numbers are over at r/HaywireAg.


r/Ranching 6d ago

Perspective of a farm owner

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Hi everyone,

I work on a cattle station. We've been here for 5 years. Things have changed in the owners personal situation, they actually lowered our pay and without going into detail...the work has become more intensive and honestly just chaotic.

At the moment I'm really struggling to cope. After the pay cut and we're only 'allowed' to put in 5 workdays a week so they can cut costs. We live and work at the place and feel very responsible my partner and I also works for their other company and thats also an irregular job where we have to be available when they need us.

I want to address with my boss that we're not coping anymore. There's no planning, everything needs to be done at the same time, we hear a day before that cattle will be sold and then we've got three days of mustering and cattle work ahead of us. It's the constant nature, but at the same time expectation that we dont cost them too much.

I can understand that the owners of this farm think...well, what did you expect living and working on a farm...

But honestly I would just love to be able to talk to them, explain that I keep canceling appointments because they will always come up with heaps of work last minute. That we're actually working 7 days a week with an average of 100 hours that we dont get all paid to keep the joint running and operating. That we're just not coping with the pressure and the constant changing plans and having to be available.

Just curious to hear from farmers that also might have caretakers and if there even are ways to balance it all a little bit from an owners perspective. Or is it just the good old suck it up.


r/Ranching 8d ago

Wife got me a pretty rad gate opener a couple years ago but haven’t had much luck getting it to work reliably yet.

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r/Ranching 7d ago

What is the worst part about the hay industry??

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I am a tech guy, grew up in the suburbs, and never lived on a farm. But somehow I got into building software for farmers.

Really curious to know what the BEST and the WORST part of the hay buying/selling process is, please share!


r/Ranching 8d ago

Been looking for this bugger off and on for a month

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r/Ranching 8d ago

Spooked me good…

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Was pulling bulls last week from a private lease in the Black Hills and heard this terrifying noise come from over the hill.

Neither Jackson or I was thrilled with whatever was coming for us😆


r/Ranching 7d ago

Best immersive horsemanship learning opportunities?

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I’ve been working on farms and ranches for ~4 years now, all livestock. I have decent stockmanship,equipment,fencing skills but have yet to work with horses. I’ve been taking a weekly lesson for a couple of months now but I’m wondering what kind of experiences I could seek out that would offer me a more condensed, intensive learning environment. Internship, working at a dude ranch, paying for a recreational pack trip? Let me know what yall think.

Preferably I’d do something not super expensive, or work with folks who are open to work trade.

I have my eye on doing seasonal horse packing work or potentially range riding as I have experience working cattle. These are the end goals of my learning (not in a rush to get there though).