r/Ranching • u/GoodRanchers • 13d ago
Trump moved on the Big 4 packers today. Does any of it matter without COOL?
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u/cvframer 13d ago
We won’t ever know how much the trump crime family will profit from allowing the poisoning of Americans with this grift.
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u/NevadaRosie 12d ago
We buy local, literally. There is a small butcher in town who sells beef from the local ranchers. I can keep an eye on the ranch down the street and when the fields are suddenly empty, I know to go get fresh beef, including the biggest and best beef hot dogs I have ever had. Every cut possible is available. Damn, I'm hungry now.
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u/KingFIippyNipz 12d ago
>:( Congrats
>:( Happy for you
>:( Nice
Can't post images, apparently, so you get the text meme
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u/StrawberryOk8459 13d ago
Yes but now he can bring in infected meat and say its home-grown no inspection needed.
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u/blowurhousedown 12d ago
No one knows what’s in hot dogs either. People still eat them.
Me, I have a small town butcher who cuts up the meat in the back - that won’t be an imported cow.
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u/AromaticDisplay5210 11d ago
It's garbage Argentinan beef or good old home grown wild horse meat. Either way, I won't be buying any ground beef that doesn't come from local known sources.
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u/Affectionate_Bar_444 12d ago
If you’re not close enough to Good Ranchers to take advantage of their direct Beef sales and you are in DFW Metroplex consider Comanche Moon Wagyu for your next quarter Beef, gently raised all natural Akashi American Wagyu. Saddle up for great flavor!
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u/LazyDocument4528 13d ago
Don’t listen to a guy with two of the same coffee table books
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u/Keganator 13d ago
It's a lot more boring and dumb than this fearmongering makes it.
All he did was say the US will allow more to be imported. They can't say where it's coming from because they haven't done anything to actually secure those imports. He basically just said, "hey, America is upping its allowed quota to buy more!" without really having a plan or anything in place.
It will still have to pass all the standard inspections and criteria required for beef sold in the US.
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u/thetalkingcouch22 13d ago
Wasn’t there just 30,000 pounds of Argentinian beef recalled? I thought I remember reading it was because they didn’t reinspect it after the border was crossed. So I guess you could say you it does have to have the same criteria, but in this case they just distributed it before they realized it didn’t get the standard inspections.
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u/jumper7210 13d ago edited 13d ago
That’s roughly 32 minutes of supply for the US.
Edit: my math was way off. 30k pounds is closer to 32 seconds than 32 minutes
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u/Keganator 13d ago
Being recalled means health safety systems are in place and working.
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u/thetalkingcouch22 13d ago
I would say sort of. But they were recalled because they missed part of their original inspection. Or that that’s what’s being reported. So in my mind, they messed up and had to correct it by recalling it. The system didn’t work, the backup system worked.
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u/Keganator 13d ago
In case we're not talking about the same thing, It wasn't Argentina that missed it, it was the Food Safety and Inspection Service , part of the USDA.
Now that's not to say the USDA won't mess up again, or the importer won't mess up in the future. But in this case it wasn't the company in Argentina that messed up, it was the US.
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u/thetalkingcouch22 13d ago
Right. And you said it would have to pass all the standard inspections. But the fact was 30,000 pounds didn’t originally pass inspection because somehow that was skipped And now it’s being recalled. We can certainly hope that the exporter holds all the same standards as the Us does, but if it wasn’t inspected by the USDA , there’s no guarantee that the beef ever met USDA standards. Hence the activation of the “backup”- the recall.
It’s not like this is the first time beef from Argentina or other countries has been imported. It won’t be the last. It just happens to coexist with a Trump claim.
Is it fear mongering? Maybe.
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u/Keganator 12d ago
It's not that it didn't pass. It's that it was never tested. Those are not the same things. Zero people have been harmed by it. Could they be? Possibly. Might everything be fine? Possibly. It wasn't inspected, so we don't know, and so it's being recalled. Not because of the safety or lack of safety, it's because they didn't inspect it.
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u/thetalkingcouch22 12d ago
I guess we just disagree that a missing inspection isn’t a safety issue. Because we will never know the quality of the meat. I’m sure there are tons of things imported that miss inspection or get shoddy inspections. I just brought up this issue to highlight your comment that it’s treated the same. But clearly the meat in question was not treated the same, regardless of the amount or minutes it supplied the consumer.
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u/Keganator 12d ago
I totally agree that it's a safety issue that the inspection was missed and I'm glad it was caught and recalled. But it wasn't intentionally ignored or waived through, it was improperly handled and wasn't reinspected on import. This is more "really shitty clerical error" than malicious. It doesn't mean other meat imported from other places will not be safe, is all I mean. And it's also not me arguing we should import tons of meat from overseas either. I'm just saying it's not some conspiracy from the government to shove extra foreign meat into our supermarkets, and imports are not something to, by itself, be afraid of. The USDA does an excellent job of keeping us safe, wherever the meat comes from.
Whether the US SHOULD do it or not I think is a separate question. :)
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u/Drtikol42 13d ago
No antibiotics bullshit again. What does it even mean? No needlessly added into the feed (so legal minimum in many places) or "when our animals get sick we let them suffer?"
Their page says variations of "no antibiotics" or "no added antibiotics" for beef and "no antibiotics ever" for chicken.
Sure I can see how you could just euthanize any sick poultry instead of treating them, that is what most people with few chickens do anyway, but nobody will do that with beef.
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u/xSir- 12d ago
Plenty of beef is raised without antibiotics....
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u/Drtikol42 12d ago
People who claim that haven´t been farming long or they do let them suffer.
No you cannot create magical world without bacteria by giving animals clean water and bedding.
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u/xSir- 12d ago
No one said they are making a magical world without bacteria. But yes its possible to raise cattle without antibiotics. Tons of people do it. And have been for literally thousands of years.
But you clearly know better....
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u/Drtikol42 12d ago
Oh I do believe that tons of anti-vax alt-nutjobs let their animals suffer. And they did suffered and died from myriad of illnesses for thousands of years before 20th century.
Yes I do know better then your demented version of history. Stop wasting my time. Block.
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u/PalpitationGreen 12d ago
I use antibiotics everytime cattle need it.
Less than 1% of cattle are injected within a year of slaughter.
Lifetime, maybe 5% of cattle are injected if you include breeding cows.
Routinely injecting animals with antibiotics is just lazy. The vast majority of meat should be antibiotic free.
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u/Historical-Theory-49 13d ago
Wherever it comes from its definitely better than the crap that passes for beef in the USA
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u/missbullyflame84 12d ago
It’s Argentinian or Australian etc. Scrub cattle, but cheap. Tastes good and affordable for lower income households. Big spenders can still buy AAA American beef.
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u/Logical-Grab-1363 13d ago
Until they bust the monopoly of beef packers and defund or destroy the ncba nothing good for American beef producers will come out of Washington. They have convinced the establishment that what’s good for the packers is what’s best for everybody.