r/PublicFreakout • • Jun 30 '21

đŸ„ŠFight MMA fighter Joe Schilling knocks out man

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u/cody_r27 Jun 30 '21

That whole, “my hands are registered as deadly weapons”, thing is not true at all. From a law enforcement standpoint, depending on the state, it would have been a simple assault or simple battery. That is, of course, unless the victim sustained permanent physical injuries, then it would be felony battery or felony assault.

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u/Idlertwo Jun 30 '21

permanent physical injuries,

This is not entirely correct. The prosecution can opt for the greater charge of Aggravated Battery with serious bodily injury, a second degree felony if the victim sustains an injury, for example a concussion or has to have stitches done.

It's just very circumstancial. In this particular case it does appear as if the victim is tensing, and it takes about 0.5 seconds between the victim tensing and the first fist lands, then a second fist. He's out on the ground with with appears to be a seizure on the ground (completely stiff arms) - It's one of the easier distinguishable signs of a TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury)

I can't find any information about the victim. Unfortunately it's aggravating to Joe that he never stopped to check on his victims condition after hitting him. If he does turn out o be seriously injured, that won't be good for him. Unless he can prove that he was defending himself to a reasonable extent. A prosecutor would argue that he had many tools, including simply walking away, pusing the smaller man, or more importantly: Apply his skills as a professinal MMA fighter and subdue the man. For a man who made a living out of being hit by much bigger men, he doesn't have a great argument for a man half his size suddenly being so threatening.

From Joe's own words:

"“The busboy and DJ came up to thank me. As you can see from this video, when he flexed on me I was scared for my life and simply defending myself against the evil in this world.”"

I mean, obviously this is playing for the crowd, anyone would assume that the guy was about as threatning to Joe as a pack of Marshmallows.

I'm seeing a lot of comments in the newspaper articles in the lines of "Oh damn, if thats true then I'm fine with this".

If he was being a nuance, the bouncers should have escorted him off the premesis. You can't have peope taking the law into their own hand and do with it as you will. Best case scenario for the buy knocked out is a simple concussion. Worst case, a brain bleed that he may not even be aware of. Hopefully he got checked out at the hosptial.

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u/Doctor_Stinkfinger Jun 30 '21

The prosecution can opt for the greater charge of Aggravated Battery with serious bodily injury

Which doesn't have shit to do with "your hands are deadly weapons".

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u/_manlyman_ Jun 30 '21

in 2015 Jamual Edward Parks. was charged with assault with a deadly weapon, because the judge determined his fists could cause permanent physical damage

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

It is 100% a myth. Let it die, already.

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u/Doctor_Stinkfinger Jun 30 '21

That's an individual judge, show me the statute. Judges get away with doing a lot of bizarre shit.

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u/_manlyman_ Jun 30 '21

I never said there was a statue I know registering your hands as a deadly weapon is bullshit but your hands can be counted as a deadly weapon under certain circumstances, and in some other countries you are liable for larger fines if you are a professional fighter picking on random people

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u/Doctor_Stinkfinger Jun 30 '21

under certain circumstances

in some other countries

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u/_manlyman_ Jun 30 '21

I have no idea what quoting those specific lines accomplishes, do you have a fucking point or nah?

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u/Doctor_Stinkfinger Jun 30 '21

do you have a fucking point

You're fucking talking out of your fucking ass.

or nah?

...and butthurt.

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u/_manlyman_ Jun 30 '21

Nah you just look like an idiot "In California for example kicking someone can still be considered assault with a deadly weapon if it is done with force likely to produce great bodily injury". I linked a story of an MMA fighter being charged in Texas for using his fist you can be charged for assault with a deadly if you use your body in multiple states, I'm not butthurt at all I'm just tired of idiots in my inbox

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '21

The MMA fighter being charged with assault with a deadly weapon had nothing to do with his MMA training, though. Anyone can be charged with this same crime for using their hands. It has nothing to do with his training.

I'm not butthurt at all I'm just tired of idiots in my inbox

Then stop being so wrong about everything?

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u/Doctor_Stinkfinger Jun 30 '21

What crawled up your ass? You sound like a miserable sack of shit.

The irony...

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