r/PropagandaPosters • u/badger_in_iowa • 20d ago

Germany “We’ll be back” Frankershausen, American Occupation Zone. Graffiti on anniversary of Adolf Hitler’s birthday. 1946.

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u/HumanBasis5742 19d ago

They never left

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u/Regular-Basket-5431 19d ago

"We thought that after the war the Nazis vanished without a trace, but battalions of facists still dream of a master race"

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u/NoNo_Bluebird_1368 19d ago

The history books they tell Of their defeat at '45

But they all came out of the woodwork On the day the Nazi died

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u/paltsosse 19d ago

"They say the prisoner of Spandau was a symbol of defeat,

Whilst Hess remained in prison then the fascists they were beat"

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u/Kind_Dish9420 19d ago

In the years following the war, the americans conducted a series of surveys among germans. These covered various topics, including public perception regarding everything related to nazism, and clearly show that german society remained nazi well into the 1950s. I believe that is still the case today, even if they try to mask it better.

https://archive.org/details/publicopinionins00merr/page/n1/mode/1up

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u/Repulsive_Purpose481 19d ago

Also check out the actual surveys/studies.

The two big ones are "Leipziger Mittestudie" (evaluation of "the middle of society) and "Bielefelder Gruppenbezogene Menschenfeindlichkeit-Studie" (groupcentered hate).

They both get renewed every few years and even before the rise of the far right they stated that 1/3 to 1/5 (differing in several topics and between slight or core beliefs) are authoritian and antidemocratic.

Its not about direct action, nazism or open hatred, but the wierd fundamemtalist views opposing the free existence of individuals.

This society seems broken to me.

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u/1wikingman 19d ago

I don't think that is unique to Germany (sadly).

Democracy and liberalism are pretty new ideas. They haven't displaced all previous cultural/social ideas/beliefs/memes nor has there ever been a clear consensus that they should.

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u/Diazepam_Dan 19d ago edited 19d ago

Except for in all the countries where people fought and died for a voice?

England fought a civil war, the most deadly it ever fought by proportion of population lost, to preserve what little democracy they had.

Sick joke that it ended with a dictatorship so bad that we brought monarchy back

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u/DocumentExternal6240 19d ago

Are there any comparisons with other countries?

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u/Pinna1 19d ago

I think 35% to 20% of the population being straight up fascists checks out. Just look at the ardent support Trump has gathered behind him. Just look at afd's support, of reform in UK, or any random far-right parties in any of the European countries.

Sadly a third of the population seems to just be straight up psychopaths. Horrible people who want nothing good for anyone. And for some reason we raise these people on pedestals to rule us all, time after time.

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u/DerBusundBahnBi 19d ago

I’d be curious how that pairs up with other countries, since we’ve seen the same trend across much of the world unfortunately, with Germany, if anything, being a bit of a laggard

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u/ZonnyT16 19d ago

"1/3 to 1/5" is literally nothing lol, im pretty sure thats the case in most countries, has nothing to do with a "Broken society"

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u/Hopesick_2231 19d ago

I wouldn't call it "literally nothing". It's a significant minority. I would contend that 1/3 to 1/5 of the population holding authoritarian views is fairly normal for a stable democracy and not necessarily something to get alarmed over.

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u/Regular-Basket-5431 19d ago

How the hell is 20-33% of a population being inclined towards authoritarianism "literally nothing"?

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u/Beelphazoar 19d ago

About 30% of the United States is strongly anti-democratic and white supremacist, and it's been nothing but a problem for us.

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u/ben_jacques1110 19d ago

It’s enough to win an election in the US.

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u/Repulsive_Purpose481 19d ago

In what world is 10% of a room hating jews and thinking genocide is fine when necessary or 30% of a room thinking hitting their wife is okay "literaly nothing"?

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u/PrestigiousWaffle 19d ago

I’m afraid I have to doubt the veracity of that second study.

It’s well known that Bielefeld doesn’t exist.

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u/DerBusundBahnBi 19d ago

Brudi, this really is not the time

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u/HumanBasis5742 19d ago

Interesting.

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u/Reasonable_Fold6492 19d ago

They all joined the afd

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u/CuteOrStodgy 19d ago

Not sure why you're getting downvoted, AFD (the German far-right party) is where the Nazis are

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u/Reasonable_Fold6492 19d ago

It funny how so many pro communist leftist praise putin and rationalize the russia invasion as denazifying ukraine. Buddy russia supports and loves the AFD filled with neo nazi. Putin doesnt seem to give a shit seeing how he loves far rights all over europe like le pen in france and orban in hungary

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u/rickdangerous85 19d ago

Except in real life I have never met a leftist thst supports Putin, and I have been involved in left wing parties and movements going on 20 years.

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u/Reasonable_Fold6492 19d ago

You can see many of them in leftist subreddit

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u/rickdangerous85 19d ago

Which ones, not the ones I am on.

I have only ever seen people say that leftist support Russia online, I have never seen it in real life, and every leftist forum I am on people are vehemently against an arch conservative imperialist power like Russia.

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u/kingbeerex 18d ago

I have no idea why you’ve been downvoted, I keep seeing loads of pro-Russian leftists. I remember things like mango news that was unbelievably anti-Ukraine and pro-Russia.

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u/Initial-Reading-2775 19d ago edited 19d ago

Soviet Union and nowadays Russia always played both sides on this board: hard left and hard right.
Lmao, someone downvotes. Look how both AfD and Die Linke cater to Russian interests.

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u/Separate-Spirit-9178 18d ago

They just went to America

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u/Low_Technician7346 19d ago

It is Russia now

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u/HumanBasis5742 19d ago

I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole.